No thumbnails of .AVI files

I have CS5 Production. Adobe Bridge has problems with thumbnails from time to time. I have cleared the Cache, and told it to regenerate thumbnails. Right now, I can't get it to build previews for .avi files. What's weird is, I know it has done it before. But now it does not display them, no matter what folder I go to. It just shows the generic .avi thumbnail. When I click on it, It does show it in the Preview Window. But not the Thumbnail Window.
Any ideas?
thanks,

This problem has been around for years. Funny thing is that with the CS5 upgrade some .avi files show thumbnails and others don't. Like most video format there is no standardization. THe AVI is just a wrapper for the video and what is in it can vary.
It is all about CODECS. Some users were downloading codecs to fix the Bridge problem, and that caused problems with Premier. So one of the Premier engineers got involved to solve the problem by getting Bridge to show thumbnails for .avi video. That was about a year ago and have seen nothing yet on any development.
If I want a thumbnail I have resorted to a workaround that is perhaps a little time intensive. I do a frame capture and save a jpeg. Then I stack this with the .avi and have the jpeg on top. You can get a thumb, but not perfect solution.

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Elements Organizer 11.0.0.0
Core Version: 11.0 (20120923.r.32287)
Language Version: 11.0 (20120923.r.32287)
Current Catalog:
Catalog Name: My Catalog
Catalog Location: C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs\My Catalog\
Catalog Size: 49.1MB
Catalog Cache Size: 578.7MB
System:
Operating System Name: Vista
Operating System Version: 6.0 Service Pack 2
System Architecture: Intel CPU Family:6 Model:7 Stepping:7 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP
Built-in Memory: 3.9GB
Free Memory: 905.8MB
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Microsoft DirectX Version: 9.0
Apple QuickTime Version: 7.73
Adobe Reader Version: 10.1
Adobe Acrobat Version: Not installed
CD and DVD drives:
E: (HL-DT-ST DVDRAM BUS: 1 ID: 1 Firmware: GH24LS50)

I do not use Organizer, but instead Adobe Bridge (included with some other Adobe programs, like Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator and Premiere Pro), or ThumbsPlus (Cerious Software), and find that some AV formats/CODEC's just do not display thumbnails. I have had that issue with some, like MPEG-1 files, some WMV files, almost anything with DivX, or Xvid.
I have not used any MJPEG files, so cannot comment on them, but have helped others Import and edit those (never tried to work with any in Organizer, Bridge or ThumbsPlus), and in those cases, it usually boiled down to having the exact MJPEG CODEC installed. As each camera mfgr. seems intent on tweaking the MJPEG CODEC, it is normally possible to Import and edit, if THAT particular MJPEG CODEC is installed, and usually from the camera's utiltiy disc. Other times, the generic Morgan, or MainConcept MJPEG CODEC's have worked - though that seems to be less often, as Nikon, Panasonic, and others, keep tweaking.
As for the display of any problem AV files, it is usually an inability of the organizing utility to find a proper display, though in some cases, there IS a display, but the first Frame of the AV file is black, with a Dip-to-Black (in this case basically a Fade-in) Transition.
Good luck, and I wish that I had a fail-safe way to always display a thumbnail for ALL AV files, and even better, the ability to set the Poster Frame to what I wanted. So far, no organizer utility, that I have seen, can display thumbs for ALL AV formats - some will handle some AV formats/CODEC's, that others will not, but none has been perfect.
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How this happened, I've no idea. Time to restore from your back up.
Regards
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Patrick Brennan1 wrote:
Scott,
Thanks but I got that far already setting my movie folder to show icon previews which it does.
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coxorange wrote:
Thanks. I only use QT and I don't want to get and install other players.
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Given the the Get Info window tells you the file is 30mb, it suggests that it's in there somewhere...
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