No Video chat with XP user (Trillian)

Hi,
I know there are lots of help cries out there complaining about no video connection between Ichat and Windows - I looked through most of the advice out there, but I still can't get it to work.
I have used my Panther G5 with Ichat 2.1 as well as Tiger Ibook to connect to my family abroad - they use XP and Trillian (we first tried AIM but couldn't get anywhere with it).
I don't have a firewall running - we opened the ports on the XP machine, then even disabled the firewall. He can video connect to the Apple trial accounts (appleu3test01) just fine - as can I - and I'm fine with other Mac users using IChat - but between the two of us I can only text chat with him - no audio nor video.
We usually get the didn't respond error message - on the Tger Ibook UI even get that I!!! didn't respond.
Again, I have looked at all the helpful articles on the web - but none was helpful in our situation...
Anybody???!!

Hi Thomas,
OK. Both the modem and the router may need ports to be opened.
This can be done in several ways depending if your devices have the options.
ALl Router will come with the option to Port Forward. (so do some modems)
Data arrives on one port like say port 80 and web browsing.
The router uses Port Forwarding to send the data to a specific IP (Computer) and a specific port although the same one is often used.
Port Triggering is where data is expected to start on one port and more ports maybe needed and are opened when the data arrives on the trigger. The ports here tend to stay the same as well. It does however allow multiple comuters to use the ports.
In terms of set up UPnP is easiest. IF your device has it it is normally an On or Off setting.
Now when it comes to a Modem and a router then iChat can get fussy if there is two DHCP servers adn two lots of Network Address Translation (NAT). Port Forwarding and Port Triggering are both forms of NAT.
A DSL modem may well route as well and do this by issuing IPs by DHCP as default. The router could be as well.
Use this site as a reference in the first instance.
If your Devices are listed click on them.
Then choose iChat in the list of games and appications.
The following page will tell you the default User ID and Password as well as the IP to type in to a web browser to gain access to the set up pages.
Somethimes in the pics you can see where the UPnP setting is. (if you have it). Sometimes it is on the set uo pages but not shown in the pics as they concentrate on Port Forwarding.
You need to set up your LAN with no more than one DHCP server and only one lot of NAT if you have to use it.
Setting Static Addresses can get around the DHCP problem.
Tell us what devices you have ?
10:33 PM Saturday; March 25, 2006

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    Date/Time: 2006-12-31 17:05:43.657 -0600
    OS Version: 10.4.8 (Build 8L2127)
    Report Version: 4
    iChat Connection Log:
    AVChat started with ID 2105596023.
    [email protected]: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateWaiting.
    0xeb2dc20: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateInvited.
    0xeb2dc20: State change from AVChatStateInvited to AVChatStateConnecting.
    [email protected]: State change from AVChatStateWaiting to AVChatStateConnecting.
    [email protected]: State change from AVChatStateConnecting to AVChatStateEnded.
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    Video Conference Support Report:
    Video Conference User Report:
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    Hi Kieran,
    No it is likely to be your end for the port 5060.
    iChat uses a text based protocol called SIP to establish calls.
    You send invites on port 5678.
    When this is accepted iChat moves to port 5060 and start the SIP process. This uses a third party server to pass the data back and forth with the Buddy.
    As part of this process it decides which ports from the group 16384-16403 are going to be used.
    AIM on a PC does not use SIP but can be identified by the process as such.
    Although the AIM application uses port 1024-5000 which need to be open in any Firewall and modem at the PC end ....
    ... the outcome is that it will use the iChat ports for the Video connection.
    Some modems come with preset for "AIM Video" the Norton Firewall may as well. If using Norton the XP firewall needs to be Off.
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