No Yosemite in Startup Disk control panel on dual-boot System

Hey, have the mystery issue. Have MacPro3,1 - four hard drives, 8 partitions and 2 OSes.
Snow Leopard on my main volume, this is the OS I use for day in and day out service - also I can run my old graphics programs under Rosetta with it, so it's staying in use and that is set in stone. Have had this current install up for three years, it's well maintained with proper system scheduling and maintenance.. all is hunky-dory.
Last fall I took the Yosemite beta and installed that on one of the empty partitions on a second drive. It's installed and I just updated to 10.10.3 this afternoon and was dealing with the machine perpetually rebooting to 10.6 when the Yosemite installer finally quit. I want to set the machine so it will boot to Yosemite but in the Startup Disk control pane, the only OS that shows is Snow Leopard.
Thing is, I also have a MacBook Pro5,3 and it's got three OSes and four partitions and I have 10.6.8, 10.8.5 and 10.10.3 and that also has a very strange Startup disk panel, but at least I can bounce back and forth with the boot option correctly set.
I've tried resetting the PRAM to get the Startup Disk to add Yosemite to the list of bootable volumes, but it's stubbornly refusing to.
Is there a terminal command that I can run in Snow Leopard to bless the system folder in Yosemite so it will be visible to Startup Disk?
Thanks!
Deb.

Oh Niel, I know the Option key startup trick.
The problem lies when I boot into Yosemite that way and take an update as I did and on the installer reboot, it goes back to Snow Leopard.
Shortside of me going into Yosemite and using the Startup Disk to set it to 10.10 reboot, I'd just like to get this cleared up as to *why* this has happened, on what has been an otherwise flawless install of the second system.
How does any given OS see another one and why isn't Snow Leopard seeing Yosemite on the MacPro and why is it so screwy on the MacBook Pro?

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Once when I had to configure my microphone, I saw that there was "Zoomed video" present in the list of audio inputs.
I thought this was a glitch, and inserted my SD card reader into the lower PCMCIA slot. Then my display got messed up.
The slot insertion doesn't seem to work right too, it resists much more than the top slot does.
It didn't react to anything except Fn-Shift-Ctrl-Power, which is Reset.
It happens in both OS9 and 10.2.
Photo: http://instagr.am/p/NtWNH/
Once I was able to insert it right so it wouldn't mess up, and i used the reader in the lower slot as usual.
When I ejected it, the card didn't pop out as usual and it was hard to pull out, and the screen was messed up as well.
The second problem is that when I start the "Startup Disk" control panel in OS9, the PowerBook hangs for no particular reason, also reacting to Reset only.
Maybe there is a bootloader I can install so I'd choose the OS I want before actually booting anything?
Could these problems be related to each other, or a dead battery? Maybe to the incorrectly set clock (however doesn't seem so)? Or related to using an Apple DVD drive?
Thanks,
~ Vladislav Korotnev

No it hasn't. What kind of battery does it use?
The power battery is dead as well (not charging nor powering the pb)

No Yosemite in Startup Disk control panel on dual-boot System

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