Noise margin - Infinity 2

Folks, apologies if this question's been asked already - but can noise margin be reset or lowered on an Infinity 2 connection?
With our old ADSL line, and Billion Bipac 7800n router, I know we could lower it ourselves or ask the ISP to do it. But I can't seem to telnet into the HH5 and after reading some of the previous forum postings I'm not sure BT Openreach allow this? We had a steady noise margin of 6db on our old ADSL, however I see from the stats in the HH5 that it's currently 6.5. I know it's not much, but I was wondering if it could be lowered manually and I could get optimal speeds.
Or does Infinity/VDSL work in different ways?
Cheers!

Regrettably I do not think this can be changed by the customer or BT Wholesale. If the noise margin becomes really silly (e.g. 10dB on infinity) you can try to get it reset but it requires a BT Openreach engineer with a job number for your line and persistence on his part.
I think the target should be around 5.9-6.0dB and at 6.5dB you are only slightly above this so close to maximum bandwidth. I'm guessing 6.5dB is a current rather than average figure, so it may be at some points during the day the noise on the line has increased and so your current noise margin. Also bear in mind that depending on the chipset in your modem the noise figure may be more of an estimate than an actual measurement. However the high noise margin may be due to the BRAS profile so you have my sympathy as in my opinion 'the system' limits the sync rate rather too aggressively. 

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  • HH5 Noise Margin Infinity 2

    Hi
    My Noise margin is rated as 6.3/9.4 and my data rate is 14774 / 51645. Max data rate is 18137 / 63062. I have been monitoring the downstream noise margin and it is consistently sitting around the 9 mark. Is this causing my downstream data rate to be significantly slower than my Max rate?
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    Any suggestions as to how I can get my data rate closer to the max - noticed my HH5 reboots every couple of days too?
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    Thanks - I have been monitoring the noise level for 3 days and it has remained around the 9 mark with occasional drops to 7 which last for about 15 mins and then jump back up to 9 again.
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      High Low High Low    
    FTTC Range A (Clean)
    64.4
    45.3
    18.5
    11.9
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    FTTC Range B (Impacted)
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  • BT Infinity 2 Noise Margin

    My noise margin is:
    8. Noise margin:
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    Is that bad, and is that the reason i've been getting ping spikes?

    gg30340 wrote:
    You need to show all the stats from 1-12 so that it can be seen in context.
    1. Product name:
    BT Home Hub
    2. Serial number:
    +068343+NQ34341979
    3. Firmware version:
    Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.173.1.6 (Type A) Last updated 15/01/14
    4. Board version:
    BT Hub 5A
    5. VDSL uptime:
    0 days, 03:33:05
    6. Data rate:
    14833 / 70867
    7. Maximum data rate:
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    8. Noise margin:
    5.9 / 6.3
    9. Line attenuation:
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    10. Signal attenuation:
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  • Bt Infinity noise margin

    The Home hub 5 resynced at the default values of 6 but I have noticed recently the noise margin increasing on the downstream. The sync rate did increase on a re-sync but went back to the values they are now. I have attached a graphs showing spikes from 15:37 when using the ringback feature on a 17070 call and have checked and their is no noise using the quiet line test. I would like your advice on how to fix this issue please.
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    1. Product name:BT Home Hub
    2. Serial number:+068343+NQ40904025
    3. Firmware versionoftware version 4.7.5.1.83.8.173.1.6 (Type A) Last updated Unknown
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    9. Line attenuation:0.0 / 23.6
    10. Signal attenuation:0.0 / 21.2

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  • Difference between noise margin and noisy line

    Hi
    This issue has always bugged me. Am transferring to BT Infinity next week from Sky and have mixed feelings. We live a fair way from the exchange so line attenuation is a problem but we mange to get 3.5-4Mb with absolutely zero outage using the Sky unlimited package. Our current router stats are posted below and I woud be grateful for your interpration of the noise margin figs. Is the 7db download commensurate with a quite and stable connection that bodes well for Infinity? I'm curious cos our phone line is noisy with much background niose despite the fact that we don't have any fancy gadgets and use filters just about everywhere.
    I'd just like your views on noise on the line versus noise margin for broadband and how each might impact on Infinity when we're connected next week.
    Many thanks for your time.
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    Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
    WANPPPoA
    403055
    369851
    0
    14261
    13203
    05:42:39
    LAN100M/Full
    370239
    415781
    0
    13527
    14890
    05:44:11
    WLAN11M/54M
    8864
    0
    0
    150
    0
    05:43:58
    ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
    Connection Speed4093 kbps
    796 kbps
    Line Attenuation51 db
    28 db
    Noise Margin4 db
    14 db

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  • Help with resetting DSLAM/boosting noise margin?

    I hope that by posting here I may actually get some help on my issue.
    Had my BT Infinity 2 installed last week after a missed appointment (contractor), and got some helpful Openreach guys in, first last Monday to install the phone line - all went well, one pair was missing somewhere but a second OR engineer managed to solve this, told me I had a clean line.
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    This is in regards to your e-mail which you have sent regarding the issue you are facing with your e-mail. I tried to call you to help you regarding your issue but could not speak with you."
    Oh dear, did they actually read and understand my query - I also mentioned in my email that I could be contacted on my mobile number (given in the email, and on record as my installation was being handled by a specialist team after the missed appointments) as I do not have a telephone attached to my landline at the moment, or by email.
    Now I run my own small computer repair business and am a professionally trained I.T. Consultant so I am 100% certain there is no problem on my end, how on earth do I go about getting this looked at because I feel like I am going round in circles?  I don't think I can face another screen reader in India telling me to unplug my "white box"....
    The noise margin seems quite low, can this be boosted - I must be between 150m and 250m from the cabinet according to the fibre guys.
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    3. Firmware version:       Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.173.1.6 (Type A) Last updated Unknown
    4. Board version:              BT Hub 5A
    5. VDSL uptime:                1 days, 02:37:11
    6. Data rate:       11869 / 58115
    7. Maximum data rate:  11807 / 57862
    8. Noise margin:               6.0 / 6.1
    9. Line attenuation:         0.0 / 20.9
    10. Signal attenuation:   0.0 / 19.9
    and just taken now:
    3. Firmware version:    Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.173.1.6 (Type A) Last updated Unknown
    4. Board version:    BT Hub 5A
    5. VDSL uptime:    1 days, 10:16:36
    6. Data rate:    11869 / 58115
    7. Maximum data rate:    11793 / 56714
    8. Noise margin:    6.0 / 5.8
    9. Line attenuation:    0.0 / 20.9
    10. Signal attenuation:    0.0 / 19.9
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    Thanks for the quick reply.
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    Featured ProductsDownstream Line Rate(Mbps)Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)Downstream Range(Mbps)Availability Date  High Low High Low    
    FTTC Range A (Clean)
    79.5
    60
    20
    19.6
    Available
    FTTC Range B (Impacted)
    70.9
    43.8
    20
    13.9
    Available
    WBC ADSL 2+
    Up to 7
    4 to 12.5
    Available
    WBC ADSL 2+ Annex M
    Up to 7
    Up to 1
    4 to 12.5
    Available
    ADSL Max
    Up to 5.5
    4.5 to 8
    Available
    WBC Fixed Rate
    2
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    Fixed Rate
    2
    Available
    Other Offerings
    Fibre Multicast
    Available
    Copper Multicast
    Available
    As you can see my upstream is lower than the "low" impacted figure, and I was told by both the phone and fibre Openreach engineers that my line is clean with no CRC errors.
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  • Noise Margin clearifaction pls

    Hiya all,
       the other day i posted regarding my infinity 2 connection about uploads speeds, that subject is now cleared and ive accepted it.
    But someone was talkin about noise margin so ive been checking it regularly and because the women at tech support said to keep an eye on it over the next few days since she phoned me on wednesday.
    the folliowing is what the HH5 says is this cause for concern?
    3. Firmware version:
    Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.173.1.6 (Type A) Last updated Unknown
    4. Board version:
    BT Hub 5A
    5. VDSL uptime:
    2 days, 00:06:07
    6. Data rate:
    8615 / 73208
    7. Maximum data rate:
    8556 / 61787      <<<< lower than my data rate?
    8. Noise margin:
    5.8 / 4.3          <<<< alot lower than it was b4 being 5.8 / 6.4?
    9. Line attenuation:
    0.0 / 19.0
    10. Signal attenuation:
    0.0 / 19.0
    11. Data sent/received:
    787.1 MB / 2.2 GB
    my downloading seems fine, sometimes it lags and then resumes like download speed spiking if that makes sense?
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    3. Firmware version:
    Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.173.1.6 (Type A) Last updated Unknown
    4. Board version:
    BT Hub 5A
    5. VDSL uptime:
    2 days, 00:06:07
    6. Data rate:
    8615 / 73208
    7. Maximum data rate:
    8556 / 61787      <<<< lower than my data rate?
    8. Noise margin:
    5.8 / 4.3          <<<< alot lower than it was b4 being 5.8 / 6.4?
    9. Line attenuation:
    0.0 / 19.0
    10. Signal attenuation:
    0.0 / 19.0
    11. Data sent/received:
    787.1 MB / 2.2 GB
    Hi there,
    Your noise margin has dropped below the target of 6 for the downstream (If you were to reboot the router now it would sync at a lower rate to up the noise margin - or it might resync on it's own to try and stabilise the connection)

  • Noise margin and orange light flashing on hh5

    Hi, I've had infinity 2 installed by an engineer a week ago and since then I have seen the hub disconnect lots of times and the orange power light flashes from anywhere between a minute and and hour with no internet access.
    I have checked the stats and I've got a noise margin of 6.1/6.6!! Could this be the reason why I cannot get a stable connection? What can be done about it?? Confused!!!!

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  • Fault rectified, but still high Noise margin and a...

    Hi, I had a fault on my dropwire from the pole causing crackling on the line, of which caused my broadband to drop constantly and increase my noise margin to 13db, from the previous 6db. This caused my broadband speed to drop from 2.5Mb down to 1.05. The engineer when he replaced the drop wire and replaced my socket with a new Openreach one with a built in filter (the infinity one) said I just need to phone BT and get put through to second level support who can drop the target SNR. After many many many phonecalls to bt technical, they refuse to drop my target snr, and refuse to pass me on to second level support who can action this! Can anyone help me on here, as my fuse is getting very short!
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    44 / 0
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    Modulation:
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    1289 / 719
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    Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
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  • Question about Noise Margin and Line Attenuation a...

    1.       For several years I have had a BT telephone line.  From the utilities provided by http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl I find  that I am connected to the Exchange at Merton Park (BT Code: LSMEPK)  Distance:-   Direct:    960 metres (appx)*  By Road:  1.29 km. Exchange Status ADSL enabled: March 30, 2000 DSL Max enabled:   March 30, 2006 SDSL enabled : Enabled  21CN due : (PSTN) N/A 21CN WBC (Broadband)   Enabled 15.02.09
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    Loss of Signal (Local)  0
    Loss of Power (Local)  0
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    CRC Errors (Down/Up)  0 / 2147480000
    HEC Errors (Down/Up)  nil / 0
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    B.      Are the line attenuation figures acceptable for a distance of under 1.5kilometres to the exchange?
    C.      Should I be able in theory to get a faster speed i.e. downstream 3Mbit/s?
    D.      From the forum it seems to take several days for speed adjustments to be effected or to take effect – is this a technical issue or a policy issue?
    Many thanks.
    Robert
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    Good Morning - it is now 6 days since this posting. During this time there have been 2 resets of the adsl line
    Fri, 2011-01-14 03:28:43 - LCP down.
    Fri, 2011-01-14 03:28:54 - Initialize LCP.
    Fri, 2011-01-14 03:28:54 - LCP is allowed to come up.
    Fri, 2011-01-14 03:28:54 - CHAP authentication success
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    Sun, 2011-01-16 16:37:26 - LCP down.
    Sun, 2011-01-16 16:37:36 - Initialize LCP.
    Sun, 2011-01-16 16:37:36 - LCP is allowed to come up.
    Sun, 2011-01-16 16:37:36 - CHAP authentication success
    These were not initiated by me - and since noise margins and sync speeds changed as a consequence can I assume that this is evidence of the adaptive process working?
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             System Up Time 157:54:52               
          ADSL Link          Downstream          Upstream              
          Connection Speed           11199 kbps           1091 kbps                
          Line Attenuation           27.0 db           9.9 db                
          Noise Margin           14.8 db           9.2 db               
    BUT from the BT speedtester, as shown below  I seem to be stuck in a banded IP profile of 1750/1091 which is very different from the  downstream sync speeds of 11199 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
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    Regards,
    Robert
    18th Jan 2010
     Download Speed    1288 Kbps
     0 Kbps   2000 Kbps
    Max Achievable Speed
     Download speedachieved during the test was - 1288 Kbps
     For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 800-2000 Kbps.
     Additional Information:
     Your DSL Connection Rate :11199 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 1091 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
     IP Profile for your line is - 1750 Kbps
    The throughput of Best Efforts (BE) classes achieved during the test is - 2.28:10.77:87.0 (SBE:NBEBE)
    These figures represent the ratio while sententiously passing Sub BE, Normal BE and Priority BE marked traffic.
    The results of this test will vary depending on the way your ISP has decided to use these traffic classes.
    2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.
      Upload Speed       896 Kbps
    0 Kbps   1091 Kbps
    Max Achievable Speed
    >Upload speed achieved during the test was - 896 Kbps
     Additional Information:
     Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 1091 Kbps

  • New phone line and broadband, massive noise margin...

    Hi, being a long time DSL stalwart a recent move to a new property has meant I've needed to switch over to ADSL instead and thus far it's proving to be a bit of a mare!
    I waited a month for the initial installation engineer who promptly never showed anyway, no bother I thought, the hub turned up and I installed it myself and it promptly didn't work   It soon became pretty apparent that the phone line was completely dead even from the test socket.  A few phone calls later and the phone line is working much to my delight.  The broadband is another story though, initially it still couldn't connect but later in the day it managed to get going.  However it's excruciatingly slow with an average of 20 to 30kps throughput and substantial packetloss.  Also worth noting is that in this new property, only the master socket actually works, this place has 4 other sockets dotted around all of which appear to be dead, could these be part of the issue?  Does using the test socket completely cut these out and rule out bad wiring?  Just to add, at 13 hours connected the adsl status is pretty much the same and I couldn't notice anything on the BT line noise test number.
    I'm not familar with the workings on ADSL lines but I'm guessing the root of the problem is down to a wildly varying noise margin both up and down.  Down fluctuates between ~2 and 20 within a matter of seconds and up gives some numbers that defy belief.  Now the line was originally activated on Wednesday, actually kicked into life sometime on Friday and the router has been connected for 13 hours now, whilst it's still early days and things should bed in more, I assume I'm right in thinking I should be alarmed at how bad a line I'm starting out with?  And should I be directing my ire at the builders or BT?
    Any help and suggestions will be hugely appreciated!
    Cheers!
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    as it is a newbuild is the master socket inside your home or outside like this 
    connecting to the test socket will eliminate all your extension sockets and should be your best connection.  if you are not in the test socket could you try it and post new stats please
    with your attenuation I would expect a connection speed of about 18mb when you get this fiixed
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  • Please can I have my Noise Margin lowered *again*

    Message sent to StephanieG, who was very helpful last time.
    Please can I have my noise margin lowered back down to 6 again?
    Although it is plugged 24/7 into the test socket, it has crept up again over the last 6 weeks, until another disconnect 10 minutes ago.
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    Cheers,
    Tim
    ADSL line status
    Connection information
    Line state
    Connected
    Connection time
    0 days, 0:04:13
    Downstream
    5,920 Kbps
    Upstream
    448 Kbps
    ADSL settings
    VPI/VCI
    0/38
    Type
    PPPoA
    Modulation
    ITU-T G.992.1
    Latency type
    Fast
    Noise margin (Down/Up)
    14.2 dB / 27.0 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up)
    27.0 dB / 17.5 dB
    Output power (Down/Up)
    19.8 dBm / 12.4 dBm

    I think it is unlikely that BT will ever update the HH to allow users to change their noise margin as it would give them even more support issues. If you wish to continue with a latency type of FAST then I suggest you invest in a router that allows you to specify the noise margin. This thread mentions 1 such router - http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-in-Home/Last-chance-saloon-really-Absolutely-fed-up/td-p/77569

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    Over the past few months my download speed has dropped from around 7M to around 3. Work has been going on since the start of the year to bring FTTC to the area and I assumed that this was to blame. But that work has now finished, although I personally am unable to get upgraded. I think it may now be a case of the Mods resetting my profile, but I can't seen to find the noise margin etc from my hub stats. I use HH4. Can somebody please help me with this?
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    Sorry  John & IMJolly, I'm not very good at this with my tablet, and have been unable to upload the results I have found, so I will attempt to type them in. Here goes.
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    Featured Products.         Downstream.           Upstream              Range.                 Availability
    WBC ADSL 2+                       Up to 6.                       --                        4 to 8.                Available
    WBC ADSL2+Annex M.       Up to 6.                 Up to1.                     4 to 8.                Available
    ADSL MAX.                           Up to 5.                      --                       3.5 to 7.5.            Available
    WBC fixed rate.                        2.                            --                              --                    Available
    Fixed rate.                                 2.                           --                               --                   Available
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    25. Modulation: G.992.3(ADSL2)
    26. Latency type: Fast
    27. Software variant: -
    28. Boot loader: 0.4.3-BT (Mon Jun 9 14:23:56 2014)

    Hi HaoForNow,
    Thanks for posting and welcome back!
    Sorry for the connection problems you were having with your broadband.  Great to see everything has been stable over the last 3 days.  I'll help reset the profile to reduce the noise margin and push your connection speed in the right direction ^^^ 
    Click on my username and under the "about me" section of my profile you'll see the link to send us your details.
    Cheers,
    Robbie
    BTCare Community Mod
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    1. Product name:
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