Nokia E7 and RSAP (Remote Sim Access Protocol)

Just spoke to Nokia support in the Netherlands... Guess what?
Nokia does NOT SUPPORT RSAP on the E7-00.
So for all the owners of Volkswagen, Audi owners out there etc.... It does NOT work.
I'm stunned by this reaction of Nokia. Up until now Nokia was a strong supporter of RSAP protocol. But not anymore??
RSAP is Remote Sim Acess protocol and is used as Bluetooth add-on for Volkswagen, Audi, Skoa etc owners.
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Hi, e7-00 works flawlessly with RSAP in my VW with premium bleutooth (it's a separate module while RNS 510 itself doesn't have any bluetooth). It works as good as with my previous N97 and N97 mini. One weird thing though. The simcard is still recognized and named as N97 by the car, the bleutoothconnection itself is connected to E7. Probably because I used the same SIM in my old phone its having that behaviour.
Have you tried to reset all Phone entries from your carset and reconnect the phone again to fix your addresbook issue?
Regards,
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Hi Meg,
could be several things:
1. they forgot?
2. none of their team members drives any VW branded car?
3. nobody cares about the radiation inside the car?
4. all have plugin holders for the iPhone?
I am just surprised that rSAP is offered by a premium car maker, but Apple seems ignorant about its support.
I am mostly concerned about the radiation when I use regular hands free. But I do understand that rSAP also has some limitations (only access to SIM contacts and other things, Wikipedia DE has a good full report, Wikipedia EN is much shorter).
Regards,
Olaf

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Greetings from Germany
Wetzi

ZLUK wrote:
Like always people post responses without fully understand what they are talking about!
NOTE: RSAP DOES NOT ACCESS THE CONTACTS FROM YOUR SIM!!!!
It uses the contacts from your phone and then uploads them to the car kit
Here is simple breakdown of what rSAP really does (as posted by user Macca)...
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Sorry - but your statement "NOTE: RSAP DOES NOT ACCESS THE CONTACTS FROM YOUR SIM!!!!" is NOT true!
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At Audi since 2008 it is possible to have access to the "normal contacts" on your mobile via the Bluetooth protocol BAP or PBAP.
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