Nokia E72 - Bypassing RAM+Card encryption

I just realized something interesting with my E72 - people can access my data even without knowing the password.
Details are as follows:
-E72 firmware 022.007. Both memory and MicroSD card are encrypted. Phone set to auto-lock at every 20 minutes.
I have an alternate home screen application installed (Voyager Home Screen) and just noticed that possible to invoke Voyager even after the phone has been "locked" (encrypted). Using Voyager I can load up any file management tool, for instance X-Plorer and access the card and any files.
All one has to to is unlock the keyboard, there is no need to know the lock code or input it.
Perhaps this has something to do with the way Voyager Home Screen works but it made me realize that perhaps the data isn't secure at all... even with encryption.

Well I have another update to this issue... I have accidentally hit the EXIT button during encryption and then the phone restarted. I then disabled memory card encryption and it took about one hour. After that I had some corrupted files in my microSD, some videos that I added later. The original OVI Maps and other files were not affected.
OK, I then decided to retry the encryption process. I enabled the encryption and it was enabled istantaneously as other people said. I then wondered what should it be. Then I came to my mind that probably the phone uses the memory card lock password to generate the encryption key. So I CHANGED the memory card lock password and enabled memory card encryption again. Well the encryption is going on right now (at 10% after 15 minutes on 16GB). So it seems that you firstly have to set the memory lock password and then enable memory card encryption, in that way the card would be encrypted juat as the phone memory encryption works.

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20 minutes timeout for full RAM/Card Encryption is...

After over 2 monhts heavy usavge, I'm quite happy with my E72 so far, except for some memory leak issues.
I did get a bit annoyed by the fact that the auto-lock feature cannot be set for more than 20 minutes. One of the resons I got the E72 was the strong RAM+Card encryption but I expected it to be a bit more flexible.
It is true that having a forced lock timeout helps protect your device (you'd forget to lock it sometimes) but there are certain occasions where I find this extremely annoying. For instance:
-When I am at home I find no need to have it locked all the time.
-When I am at work and the phone is always next to me, I find annoying that it auto-locks every 20 minutes when I'm using it as an audio player - makes you have to unlock when you want to interact
-In certain applications, it is annoying that it autolocks and you can't interact. One example is Sygic Mobile GPS software that crashes when it locks. With other software it would be annoying too as you'd be locked and unable to interact with the phone in any trip taking longer than 20 minutes.
So I have two suggestions
-Make the maximum lock delay a bit longer - for instance 60 minutes.
and/or
Give us an option similar to what you get in timed Profiles, for instance, "Stay unlocked until hh:mm" - This would be handy when you're home and well... no one is going to steal your phone/access it/lose it.

I don't mean the keyboard lock, I mean the native Symbian OS phone lock when you are using RAM and/or Card Encryption with the E72.
It is built in on the OS and you cannot set it to be over 20 minutes. If you leave your phone untouched for 20 minutes it will lock/encrypt itself.
Then you have to
1) unlock the keyboard
2) enter the unlock code to decrypt
The problem is that the auto-lock feature timer is limited to 1-20 minutes.
If you want for instance to use your phone for a GPS navigation trip and don't touch it for 20 minutes, it will lock + encrypt.... in some occasions would be nice to have a much longer timer.
I wish Nokia would tweak this in the next firmware or at least allow us to specify certain applications where it would not auto-lock at all.

Nokia E72 Memory (RAM) Problem

Hi everyone,
I recently installed Opera Mobile 12 in my phone and have been facing RAM problems a lot lately.... After I surf the internet for sometime, i frequently get the messege showing ''Memory Full: Please Close Some Applications and Try Again''... Its not that I faced this in earlier versions of Opera Mobile but it was less frequent and multitasking was easily possible.... Now, other programs (like whatsapp, mobipocket reader, music player etc) cannot be run along with the browser and most of the time I minimize the browser, it exits and often, it exits while i'm still browsing.... Sometimes, when I get the memory full error, my theme disappears and the default theme of my phone loads up instead.... Can I work a way around this problem?? According to my mobile guard, the Opera eats away around 30-35 MB of RAM... When i boot up, I have around 45 MB of RAM available.... Can I increase my free memory so that I can browse, chat and listen to music side by side with none of the processes getting automatically killed?? I've tried workarounds such as the ''KillMe'' app to close unnecessary processes and although it frees some RAM, the problem still persists... Please help...
-Tirtha

Hi tirtha2chester,
Thank you for your post and welcome to the forums.
Have a look at the following link:
http://europe.nokia.com/support/search?qt=Nokia%20E72%20Memory%20full&cat=support&fullcontent=true&c...
It has some advice on how to clear up memory, give it a go and see if it helps.
Also have a look at some of the threads on these forum with other users having similar problems:
http://discussions.nokia.co.uk/t5/Eseries-and-Communicators/Nokia-E72-Memory-full-Delete-or-move-som...
http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/t5/Eseries-and-Communicators/e72-memory-full-error/td-p/1137405
Let me know if any of this helps.
Regards
Raoul_Duke
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Nokia E72 encryption & OVI Maps

Hi,
I have two issues about the E72:
1. My E72 came with a 4GB microSD card with OVI Maps installed on it. Unfortunately there are only 1023 MB free out of 4GB, so I planned to buy a bigger card. I would like toi know if I can simply copy all the data from the opriginal 4GB card to the new one? Will the applications still work?
2. If I enable phone memory encryption in my phone, some applications stop working, i.e. OVI Maps does not work anymore, OVI Store stops working. I have to disable the phone memory encryption in order applications restart working. Is there a way to havbe phone memory enabled and still have the applications working fine?
Thanks.

beowulfpt wrote:
I did stop using encryption as there is a slight loss of speed and overall I concluded that it was not really safe since people could access my data without knowing the lock code. (a probable exploit scenario using Voyager Home screen). I mentioned that in another post (no one seemed to worry).
As far as I can tell, in that setup encryption is useless and ends up being annoying (because Nokia forced a maximum of 20 minute time-out for the lock in that case, meaning that it auto-locks sometimes when not handy.... while navigating in the car, listening to audiobooks, etc).
/t5/Eseries-Devices-and/Nokia-E72-Bypassing-RAM-Card-encryption/m-p/658040#M64312
Going to reply to my own post saying that the annoying 20 minute limit for auto-lock when encryption is still enforced in the new firmware released this week (051).
If you are using encryption, it is not possible to have it set to higher values.
I'm re-encrypting my E72 (ram and card) to see how it performs now. Maybe it still crashes some apps when it auto-locks, making it useless for instance for trips while GPS navigating.
Will need to test to see if it is still possible to bypass the mem+card encryption code using JBakTaskman/Voyager Home as it was before... but I bet they didn't fix it.
Lame Nokia, lame... strong encryption still not useful.

Too small free ram on nokia e72

i got too small free ram on my nokia e72 (about 30 mb free ram), i can't make a full multy tasking on my e72 device,.. Anybody have same trouble..??? Let's nokia solving it in new firmware

Hi agus_ependi,
Welcome to the Nokia discussion boards!
It may be so that you are running out of memory on the phone memory because you may have installed applications and saved media onto this drive. Try saving and installing these onto the mass memory or memory card because this will free up vital phone memory that your E72 needs.
Let us know how you get on.
Regards,
haZey
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E72 memory card encryption

Setting up card encryption goes through the motions but appears to instantly encrypt the card! Given memory encryption takes a few minutes, it looks like nothing actually happens. Indeed, trying to decrypt the card doesn't do anything! Haven't yet tried to read the card in another device, but I suspect it isn't. Other reportson the net concur with this. Given that encryption was one of the main reasons for looking at this phone, this is a bit of an issue.
Mark Enderby

Having updated to 31.023 and going through a hard reset. The system now says that the card encryption is "off". Have switched it on again and the effect is the same. System says card is encrypted - but nothings actually happened!

Memory card Encryption

Dear all pls help me,I just try to encrypt my nokia E72 memorycard .phone shows that it will take 88 min.to complet the encryption.now i'm waiting about 11 hours still only 19%.it's not able to cancel while running encryption.my phone became totally slow.dear all pls help me to cancell or decrypt.

Greetings, and welcome to the BlackBerry.com Support Forums.
sg68 wrote:
Is there a way to encrypt the memory card. I was think that if someone nicked my phone, it is password protected but that doesnt stop them pulling the memory card out and using it in a card reader.
Options > Media Card. Set the encryption there.
Also, does blackberry provide a service whereas if the phone is nicked, you can send a signal too it to basically trash the phone? I'm sure Ive heard of that on BES but not sure about BIS.
Yes, I use Roblock
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Nokia E72 button light problem

guys really i began to hate that phone really it's the million time that i notice a bug or an issue
i can't enjoy my phone i bought it on 1/1/2011 and i feel like i wanna get ride of it :s
well as for today's issue : [ hope it's the last one]
i was replying to a text message and while texting the keypad light suddenly went of but the backlight of the screen was still on so i ignored this and continued typing then sent the message
and the left the phone untill the back light time out finish(30sec as default)
and then pressed on menu just to let the light of screen and keypad turn on but only screen which turned on
the keypad light was still in a coma so i had to reboot and it was solved
btw i only recieved 3-4 sms and sent about 3 so the ram usage was still at the normal ratio
and don't tell me to clase all app after finishing because i always do..
p.s this issue used to occur but in the opposite way as i switched off the phone and the keypad lights were still on and don't tell me to go to nokia care the phone is brand new and i already went there 3 times before
help!
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Nokia E72-1 Black
firmware : 053.001
of 26 of nov 2010
Solved!
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Hi Antonis,
I hope the below can answer your questions:
1- If you are using the Nokia C3-01, then the notification lights is indeed available. You can set it through: Menu>>Settings>>Display>>Notification details>>Set it to Show. At the same time, make sure that the light effects are set to "On". To do so, follow these steps: Menu>>Settings>>Lights>>Lights Effects>>On.
Once you set up the above on the Nokia C3-01, whenever you miss a call or a message, the notification light in the middle will work. It is actually located on the silver colored bar between the green and red buttons for calls. Also, the Nokia C3-01 has a very good battery life. Therefore, it might actually fit your requirements as it is a touch screen phone with a standard keypad for SMS typers such as yourself.
2- As for the E52 and the E72, they are actually both great phones and both of them have the notification lights. You can refer to the previous post for steps on how to set them up. But from personal experience, the light effects on the E52 is actually brighter than any other phone that i have seen. So, since you are also interested in the keyboard of the Nokia E52 for SMS purposes, I think you should go for that one.
3- However, as far as Blackberry is concerned, I would recommend you to contact them directly for any details or help on their phone's features.
In conclusion, if you wish to have a simple "Old Fashioned" but sophisticated phone, I would recommend you to go for the Nokia C3-01. However, if you wish to have a smartphone with all the above features that you require, then the E52 would be a great choice as well. All in all, the decision is in your hand
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NOKIA E72 water damage?!

Hi,
Some drops of rain water fell on my Nokia E72 today. As soon as I got back home..I wiped my phone clean..opened the back panel and wiped the battery and I blew-dry d entire fone too .
All functions seem to be ok except the headset jack which is placed at d top..it DOES recognize d headset n play music but won't detect when I detach the headphones. So to u se loud speaker again,I have to restart my phone.
2. USB port also seems affected,it got me connected to laptop and is acting very well as modem but won't charge.
For some time the speaker wasn't working properly either..d sound was coarse n volume level had come down considerably. but after dryin n playin music for some time,it is restored to original
Please suggest me how to solve the above two problems as I don't really want to go to customer care for these little problems. Thanks.

try removing the battery sim and sd card and leave in hot press over night or look here
/t5/Pool-of-Knowledge/Dropped-your-phone-in-water-Here-s-what-to-do-next/td-p/380349
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Nokia e72 and where did the memory go????

New Nokia e72, after the disappointing Nokia E75 i really didn`t expect Nokia to release another unfinished phone!
Dont get me wrong, great Phone the E72, solid hardware, but it has the same memory problem found in other nokia devices. 42 M at start up. Tried to go on the internet with the build in browser, 2 big flash sites like CNN and sadly the memory was down to between 356 K to 1 M, and the phone didn´t react anymore. After shuting down the browser, the E72 had 42 M in free memory again. It's the same story when using Spotify or Youtube.
Is there any one else with the same problem? What will/can Nokia do about it?
Best regards

I am using the program PhoNetInfo to check for available RAM. Find it at http://www.patrickfrei.ch/phonetinfo/index.html. Not sure if there's an easier solution? You will need to follow the instructions to have it signed at http://symbiansigned.com for it to work.
As for the main thread, I am using an E73, which is basically the same as an E72. Memory was one of the shortcomings I knew about when buying the phone, but so far I have hit only one browser "Out of memory" error. Guess the sites I use either have a mobile version or simply aren't so memory intensive? But I might look at this problem from the other perspective. Unless they're loaded with pictures, web sites that trigger "Out of memory" are probably obscenely FAT! I marvel at the design of certain modern web sites. It's as if the programmers get paid by line of code, or are in competition to win this year's Rube Goldberg prize, for the most unnecessarily complicated invention. Try downloading such a web site over a dial-up connection. In this case, the problem is totally different, but the resulting frustration is the same. And IMHO, the cause is the same: BAD DESIGN. Simpler is better for visitors and both cheaper and easier to maintain.
Has anybody tried the Skyfire? While it likely has some problems of its own, I assume it will work around a straightforward "Out of memory" error...because it's not a real web browser?

Nokia E72 - How much free mem after update to 91.0...

Hello!
Obviously there are not too many still using the Nokia E72 around here. But of those having updated to firmware version 91.003, could anyone please tell me how much free mem there is after startup, i.e. with PhoNetInfo or a similar application? Would be much appreciated. With 73.001 I have about 40 to 41MB with unused apps deinstalled or turned off.
Thanks!

Changelog : improvements in memory (RAM) consumption
My opinion : nothing has been changed [less than 45 mb at startup]
Nokia E72 V091.003

HELP*****deleting all memory saved on nokia e72***...

hi can someone please help me concerning my nokia e72, i have bought a 16gb memory card currently waiting on it but in the mean time the 4gb which came with the phone isn't allowing me to put any music on go on the internet, play the radio....do anything really. what is the problem? i have no idea what to do.....also how do i put music on the phone? when i plug it into the computer, files open but which 1 do i put music in too is it the download file?? i am totally lost with this phone actually thinking of taking it back its just very complicated...i need step by step info on how to delete my memory and how to put music on.
one other thing the phone is quite slow it freezes alot i have to take the battery out inorder to get it working again why is this? due to no memory?? does this phone save all the web pages i use?? what is using up the memory?? please help!!!
thansk.

Do you want to delete all the info on the memory card or from your phone. Dialling *#7370# from the main screen wipes out the phone memory by doing this you will lose all your data stored on to your phone memory like contacts, notes, bookmarks any applications installed, nokia music licenses ( you can later retrieve this) etc. In order to format your mem card so it from your phone go to file manager and use 'format mem card' For storing music on the card create a folder named 'music' or 'mp3' and place all your songs there, open your music player and refresh music library, wait till all the songs are added.
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Free sat nav on Nokia E72 for life

I have the Nokia E72 which apparently comes with free sat nav for life. However, I cannot get this to work and the manual is not helpful in any shape or form......Any ideas as to how I activate this free device ??????

Hi GillRogers
OvI Maps application is built into your phone firmware although it won't be the latest v3.04 version from here:http://maps.nokia.com/services-and-apps/ovi-maps/free-downloads#/nokia-e72/
You do however need to install OVI Suite on your PC to enable you to download regional maps, although you need a microSD memory card and you must run OVI Maps application at least once with memory card in place; you also need to download chosen voice files for "voice navigation" to work.
A User Guide is available here:http://nds1.nokia.com/files/support/global/phones/guides/Maps_3_0_UG_SR1_1_No_Touch_EN.pdf
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Nokia E72 was accidentally dropped :(

Guys i accidentally dropped my phone out of my hands
and when i picked the phone there was a message about memory card (i can't remember)
i pressed ok put it seems that home screen wallpaper and themes and every thing on memory card disappeared.!!!!!
i restarted the phone and nothing happened, it still with the original home screen setting (the golden business theme).
i feel terrible so i removed m card and the reinserted it . and i heard a beep but my theme wasn't set even my wallpaper and when i switched modes i found the personal theme was unaffected.
did this drop made something(damaged) to the phone, do i have to go to nokia care.?
wiered as i dropped a lot of phones b4 and nothing happened.
Nokia E72-1 Black
firmware : 053.001
of 26 of nov 2010
Solved!
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well thank u all guys
and 4 sure i 'll try to be more carefull as i do like my phone and i'm alittle worried about my Baby E72 and it was an accident, i didn't intend to drop it. but it happened
thanks again
p.s the memory card was already in the slot and didn't came out and i didn't touch it
first i restarted the device but nothing happened and then i removed the m.card and then reinserted it again untill i heard the beep and then i began to reaasign the theme and wallpaper and i guess it's working fine thank god.
Nokia E72-1 Black
firmware : 053.001
of 26 of nov 2010

Pushed Update to Nokia E72 - MEANS MUSIC STOPPED W...

Today Nokia pushed an update to my Nokia E72 and since the update when I try and listen to music most tracks just skip onto the next without starting to play OR play for 4 seconds then moves onto the next song. Super annoying! Tried to format memory card. Still the same, hard reset, still the same... What happened Nokia!?!
Software Version: 022.007
Version Date: 10th Dec 2009 (downloaded 5th Feb 2010)

The best method actually for the end user is via NSU or Ovi Suite. It seems certain settings on your computer may be affecting the installation. Please uninstall NSU, and clean out your PC of all Nokia instances using Nokia PC Suite cleaner. Turn off you antivirus and firewall (I have mine set to recognize Ovi Suite as friendly, maybe you could do that as well), and install PC Suite, NSU and retry the update. Do not run any app as you do this, and keep AV and FW turned off.
If you find that you still cant update properly, you can have your phone updated at a Nokia Care Center. Its free if you are still under warranty.
There is no guarantee that your problems will be solved. Updates will only solve bugs. However if your problem is corrupted system files, the fw update may not help unless the update replaces those system files. However if the files are on the memory card, an update will not help and the only solution for that is a card reformat.
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Nokia E72 - Bypassing RAM+Card encryption

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