NOKIA N8 + WEP = FAILURE ?

Hi there ! I have a big problem that makes me crazy, hoping to get help here...
My Nokia N8 REFUSES to connect to my home network. I have a netgear router that connects perfecly to a galaxy tab, 2 computers and a printserver.
My Nokia can connect to the router perfectly when the networks security is open, wpa and wpa2, but NOT on wep (same on 64 and 128 encryption). I have tried differint settings on the phone checked the configuration several times, resetted the phone and the router, disabeled wep power saving on the phone, but NOTHING works !!!
When I try to connect, it tried to connect, but says "wrong password key, check the key and try again". And I HAVE checked so it is the right key several times !!!!
By the way, I cannot have the network on wpa/wpa2, as my printserver does not support that mode, and I on´t want to have an open network...
I have checked all the settings (pre-shared key, hexidecimal mode and the right type of encoding -hex 64 or hex 128)
DO NOT know what to do next !!! Really annoying !!!
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Yes i have, and all my other equipment can connect via wep. It´s only the nokia that has problem with WEP and ONLY with WEP (open network, WPA and WPA2 works fine, it connects instantly) :-( Netgear says that everything is coinfigured properly, and it´s a problem with the Nokia, and Nokia says it´s a problem with the netgear router. :-(
I am going to ask a friend that also has a N8 to try to connect to my network and see if that works...

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Day to day, as a Phone, the E72 is fantastic. Calling people by typing their name is so much easier than 'flicking' through lists, call quality is absolutely top notch, signal strength and 3G connectivity is years ahead of my old iPhone/Nexus/Blackberry/Treo and really shows that Nokia know how to make connectivity work from a technical perspective, something that almost every other company from HTC to Apple trail considerably behind on.
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I'm pretty experienced in these things and technically very able (I'm into heavy tech for a few decades) but this was a challenge for me. Passwords, logins, usernames etc.. it all becomes one mixed up frustrating jumble that I think would have any mere mortal turned off or turn to their I.T. department in haste. It took me a couple of days to get it set up properly and even then it felt like it was hanging by its fingernails. Blackberry by contrast feels military strength compared to OviMail and BB's are far from a walk in the park when it comes to ease of setup. Once I did get OviMail setup, it did work but I always had the feeling that it might break at any minute if I touched the wrong option. To its credit, it never actually did break, but it just left a bad taste that I never quite got rid of.
Nokia are obviously moving heavily into services such as cloud infrastructure with Ovi services, Music etc. This push into services is being implemented the same way as Microsoft did a while back where none of the teams talk to one another other, it's all through a technical specification sheet. The E72 software works as silo-applications with each requiring the same login information being entered independently rather than simply log into Ovi services once, per device, and everything else flows. This constant entering of information per application is what makes S60 feel dated, it's unforgivable for a product manager of an integrated device like the E72 to let this pass. It either shows weak leadership within the product team or it shows a lack of cohesion between the teams within Nokia - again, a failure in leadership although higher up the chain of command. Yes, it's a big company but to let this happen shows the company has too many toothpaste managers and not enough tech savy people that love their work.
A second level of confusion is the PC software that's bundled and are encouraged to install. Nokia's PC suite is solid, but why am I encouraged to install Ovi software and map loaders which seem to replicate the same job? It's not a problem with the device itself, but it significantly dilutes the user experience to bemused confusion. Obviously this is not the E72 but companies can no longer separate user-experience from device experience, especially when they're intertwined to the degree that they are these days.
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No Internet Radio feature as was in the E63.. I needed to scour the web to add this manually for some odd reason.
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Ovi/Nokia Maps. Where do I start with this? It's absolutely wonderful. I went a few trips to California, installed the map data on the device for California and Nevada and it worked perfectly. I bought a little car stand for $10 in Fry's electronics which worked for the trip and this just blew me away. Even with it's small screen, this has made me give away my Tom-Tom which I took with me on trips and never turned on once. Full marks.
Battery life is incredible, for a device in this day and age to last 4 days on a single charge is simply stunning. I'll put up with the lack of a decent movie player any day if it means I get 4 days out of a single charge. Once again, Nokia should shout about how awesome this is to anyone that will listen. iPhone users get trained into worrying about battery life and turning things off where possible, not having to worry about battery life is an absolute blessing. Well done Nokia.
To give an example, I drove from San Francisco to San Diego which takes 9 hours. I had the GPS running giving me directions, I had the Phone wired into AUX in the Car playing some Audio books for the entire duration and the battery life still had a good 2 days before needing a charge. The E72 battery life will forever go down in Legend as an 'I remember when' story.
Not that this piece is about comparisons with other Phones, but coming from the UK it means heavy roaming charges if I use data. I took a similar business trip with a Nexus One and it was pretty much useless as their GPS mapping software is US only in features and, it can't work with offline maps and would have cost me a pretty penny to use on a roaming contract with all the Data it would download. The Nexus one is arrogantly setup to be of use to US consumers, overseas users get a half-glass feature set (no turn by turn / street-view etc..).
The Divorce:
There is a time in the daily life of using a Phone where the 'unique characteristics' of the Phone start to become tedious. This happens with all phones and gadgets, if it didn't we'd all still be using Videostar VHS recorders (does that give my age away?).
After travelling up and down California, replying to a hundred or so emails over the course of a week, I noticed that I had just sent a handful of emails without being connected to Wifi. After examining a little further I worked out to my horror that the email client does not connect over Wifi - ever. It fails to work with Profiles, connection orders or anything remotely standard on almost any other Nokia/other device. Profiles for the uneducated should remain an unknown, it's a black art from a previous era that has no place in a modern day smartphone. Devices should simply connect over Wifi if connected, otherwise prompt the user if it's roaming - simple as that, no 'profile' needed. This is how all smartphones work, even the senile Blackberry OS does this out the box.
I foolishly presumed that as the old mule E63 has worked over Wifi, the E72 being an 'evolved' device would also have this feature as standard. Nokia took it out.. what the $£%$£?
I can only imagine at this point in time, Nokia deliberately engineered this deficiency to keep carriers happy. The E63 being 'consumer' can be used over wifi with a standard phone tariff, the E72 being a 'prosumer' device needs the user to buy a more expensive Smartphone tariff. I can't for the life of me work out why Nokia would remove a standard feature that was in all of their older phones.
This little oversight of the Email client not connecting or alerting me that it was using a non-wifi connection actually cost me over 100 euros in data charges. This is simply not acceptable, no excuses, no patch-it at some point please. It's simply stupid. Yes, I've used Profimail etc.. but should I need to on a messaging device? I bought the phone for this feature, paying to replace it is simply counter-intuitive when so many other options exist without wrestling with work-arounds.
Other than creating a hole in my wallet, I also through sheer paranoia removed all my Email accounts from Ovi and set them up as 'pull' accounts where I manually check my email. I need to do this simply as I travel so much and the roaming feature sometimes works - it's back to the holding on by your fingernails thing with this device, it should work but you're not quite sure.
Running the much loved Maps application brings up a notice asking to connect to download data - even after saying NO, I still fail to have faith in the profiles working which removes the confidence you have in the device, It removed the feeling that you're in control and that really gets to you after a while. If Email has been engineered to ignore profiles, what else if going on under the surface, I should not have to read forums to gain confidence and if I was a typical consumer I wouldn't know where to start to find this out.
Other problems starting to appear are that the E72 is starting to crash a few times every week, the dreaded space-bar problem has appeared, I can't upgrade the firmware for some reason even though I'm a few revisions behind (I bought it unlocked from Nokia), the back cover feels like it's starting to work loose and has fallen off a few times and the transition effects needed to be turned off (only half of them disappear). All of these things are in the forums here to some degree. Sometimes they annoy, sometimes not, but overall when you're having a tough day they all get to you.
Summary:
There's a scene in the Film "Flash Gordon" where a poor chap puts his hand in a tree trunk as a drunken game to see if the creature that lurks will bite him, he puts his hand in, smiles then slowly starts to pull his hand out before getting bitten just before he pulls his hand to safety - for some odd reason the E72 reminds me of that this. You approach with trepidation, become comfortable with the device then you get bitten just when you think all is well and you're about to make off with the cash.
The E72 is the end of an era. You can tell by Nokia's responses to the problems on the E72 that their corporate focus is no longer on developing S60 but maintaining it with minimal effort.
Their focus is now on Maemo and 300 other pressing priorities, their software engineers are stretched way too thin working on OviCloud services, Maemo and a multitude of new devices and holes/low quality are starting to become standard. This is starting to reflect on devices like the E72 which should be a flagship device but instead is not much more evolved than an 'old' E63 at half the price - which incidentally has an email client from the same codebase that can download over wifi. In many ways, plastic aside, I thought the E63 was better, more stable (for me) especially for the price.
Nokia will obviously keep churning out yearly revisions to the S60 line (C6, E5 etc). But you know for a fact that they're pretty much the same devices with a cavalier attitude to improvements and the least engineering time to fix bugs/features as they can get away with. Arrogant yes, damage to the Nokia Brand by doing this? Absolutely. It will take me 5 years before I return to a new Nokia device after seeing the speed of progress and responses despite some great promise. Look how quickly Google turned around a Nexus One update with multi-touch after an outcry - it can be counted in days after launch, not 'devices' as seems to be the case here.
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In many ways the E72 is the device I'm least able to move on from as there is so much to like and so much potential, but the amateur email implementation and creeping software problems makes this device seriously handicapped for anyone that travels or cares about the significant roaming fees that this device is designed to incur which is a genuine shame.
Hopefully these things will get fixed in firmware upgrades, I'm sure some of them will but why should I wait? this is not the 1990's - this is mature technology and a (very) mature Operating system which should be solid as a rock.
I like many on this forum would like to see Nokia do well but they've simply not stepped upto the plate by fixing basic feature holes nor have they communicated to the community that they're listening and will fix any of the problems. Instead they've announced new devices to replace the handsets that still have serious flaws. This is not the actions of a company that listens but a company that simply churns like a machine on a pre-set course with nobody at the wheel.
Despite much to like about the E72, I for the single reason that Nokia seem to have no ears to hear and no fingers to type, am out until further notice.

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As I bought the device 'vanilla' style from Nokia online, I have no idea why I was unable to use PCSuite to upgrade my firmware despite my E72 being clearly a few revisions behind, I also tried upgrading from the device itself and it gave me a firm but fair 'No'; one day after hammering the server for a few minutes with constant requests, Nokia's servers finally rolled over and let me download an upgraded firmware directly onto the device. I can only presume it was a load-balance issue with their servers although open to being educated otherwise, I have no idea why PCsuite/Ovi Suite failed to upgrade the E72 despite downloading the new firmware every time I checked for an upgrade. Not to worry, these things happen.
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Email:
The new email revision does fix some of the Wifi connection issues I was having. I'm glad to say it's faster and does indeed work over Wifi although it seems very slow when updating itself. Other phones seem to download a full header+message infinitely quicker that the E72. As I've been using the new firmware for a week solid, I'm increasingly annoyed that I need to download the HTML versions of email manually which takes terra-years; I believe the E71 email client can be configured to download HTML versions automatically as can my old E63 so why not the E72? Did someone 'merge' the old email source-code into Nokia messaging when they made the E72 client?
A new bug has appeared that seems to lock into a constantly 'downloading' logo loop - where it never completes the email download. I need to click 'cancel' manually then the email appears as if by magic. There are other niggles that have seemingly crept in such as when using the E72 without a SIM card, the email client will work for a few hours then simply stop connecting manually or automatically, needing a reset to come to life again. **Geek alert on** As an old games programmer, this looks to me like a memory leak problem that could be easily found (or a thread that's gone haywire) - especially considering good debug tools have been around since it's Psion Series 5 roots. **Geek alert off**.
I'm sure your mileage - or bugs - will be different from my own depending on your own unique circumstances but it's another of those two steps forward, one step back things which Nokia seem to do with the E-series.
What's frustrating is the phone part of the E72 is world-class which when coupled with a bottom of class email client it defeats the reason to have a QWERTY in the first place. I'd trade the Phone stability for a best of breed email client on this device in a heartbeat. I've not tested the Gmail client as RistotheGreat did (above) so this may solve the email conundrum for some.
Memory:
As Beowulfpt above originally questioned, Ram is becoming as scarce as the Yeti. Before the firmware update I had plenty of spare RAM, after the firmware update I get low-RAM notifications every few days and I'm running the exact same email accounts without running ANY 3rd party software whatsoever.
Stability:
Overall crashes of the device are now far and few. It seems to be a step forward. Well done Nokia.
Other:
It's worth mentioning (thanks DeadKenny) that you can now sign in once to Ovi services and it's supposed to work across the Ovi suite of apps. I've not checked this personally as I'm using the device without adding extra apps at present but there was a note in the firmware note when upgrading.
Internet Radio has now been added back to the Radio client - no need to go hunting for external versions of this anymore. This, as before, works pretty well.
To close, it's interesting to read others frustrations (above) with this device, there are many good things about E72 and I can live with compromises in a device if it does other things well. In the case of the E72 it's a great phone but it's an incredibly poorly implemented email client, too poor if you ask me. If Nokia added a half stable email client with HTML (as they had many years back in other similar devices) then I'd put up with the tedious old-school 'profiles' and an old-school approach to connectivity and other such compromises. As it stands I can't in all honesty make this my main device when it's fails to offer a usable email client that I can use without frustration on a daily basis despite the new lipstick.
As Nokia are so close to making this device 'ok', should I go back to the Nexus and put up with the lack of a keyboard and poor phone functionality, but excellent mail client - waiting for one more Firmware revision from Nokia? How long did you good E71 owners need to wait until Nokia fixed the problems for you? I really want to like this device despite my sheer frustration at it's implementation.
Note: Despite the E72 still sitting on my desk and not on Ebay, my original post conclusions about Nokia's tardiness in selling half-finished devices still stands. I'd find it incredibly difficult to justify buying a new Nokia device for a number of years. This is a real shame when they have so many voiceless employees within their organisation that if given half a management-vote could turn this cheap strategy around.

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I have two OVI email addresses and have used them for some time now. I have been trying with Mozilla Thunderbird and in the last few weeks I have been getting sporadic authentication errors when sending (SMTP) although receiving has always been fine. Prior to this starting, it has been fine so I know my settings are OK.
Now I have reverted to Outlook I am still getting authentication failures when sending every time on both OVI YAHOO email accounts.
I have tried a different computer and both Thunderbird and Outlook fail every time on both computers. Also tried, without success:-
Every type of authentication settings combination, always reverting to the correct ones.
Leaving it to AVAST to handle SSL
Turning the firewall on and off
However, it works fine on my N97 and of course in the browser interface
Has anyone else had this problem recently? There doesn't seem to be any way to contact OVI Yahoo for support on this.

Hi there Eaglewalkthroug
I owe you a massive vote of thanks for this and I am surprised that Nokia Support at "http://support.ovi.com/osc/en_GB/service/mail/faq/FA134976_en_US" can't seem to work it out themselves.
This has bugged me for ages now and finally you sorted it, and it's IMAP!!
Thanks a million

Nokia E52 start up failure - Shutdown - software f...

The E52 is an absolute failure... apart from being nice and easy to use and nice keypad, the rest is utter trash. I have had this phone fail several times, i only use it for sms, thats is, never connected to PC or downoad any **bleep**, patches etc for it, and time and time again, Nokia takes people 'smoney to 'reset' this ohoine and send it back. It costs money, and time, and a lot of frustrations also having to go without a phone in the first place. The start up codes do not work for me. I am told it is a software failure, such unreliable, it just shuts down oen time never tostart again, if it does you get the phone start up failed contact your retailer.

Hi sons1vn2nv,
If you want to provide any feedback directly to Nokia, please use the 'Contact us' link at the top of the page to contact your local Nokia team.
Kind regards,

E72 Start-up failure after nokia logo ;(

all..help me to fix this problems..
My E72 White edition Z-white, i buy 2 month ago
( V.031.023 , 31 march 2010)
Made in China , don’t know it’s original or just fake...
Slow reponse and always restart itself, the problems is :
1. when i open a website its sometimes error and restart itself..
2. the response when open an images or video and other applications is
      very slow.., and sometimes make it restart itself...
3. now the huge problem is totally can't using my phone..
     when turn on my phone after nokia logo appear :
     “phone start-Up failure, contact the retailer “
     what the hell, retailer can fix this poblem?
     Im try to remove the memory card
     (4GB micrSD original from phone packages) then put it back again...
     And it’s work, but in few hours, error message is appear back...so sad..
Please help me to solve this problem : (

/t5/Pool-of-Knowledge/Avoiding-fake-Nokia-phones/td-p/366514
try updating the software first,if nothing happens or no change
i would return it to a nokia care center if its original
If i have helped at all a click on the white star below would be nice thanks.
Now using the Lumia 1520

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