Nokia N97 NAM - - Made in China??

Is this true? That the NAM versions of the N97 are all made in China?
If so.. what versions / how will be the ones made in Finland?

grschinon wrote:
shayesta wrote:
yep there is a little secret to were its made from. If your device is made in finland then this is the best build wereas other places like Hungary, China etc they will be bad build quality.
Given your rank, Shayesta, you should know better than to post rubbish like this.
As already confirmed several times by the moderators and by other forum members, some of much lower status than yours, the plant that manufactures a phone has no bearing whatsoever on the build quality of that phone. Whether the phone comes from Hungary, Finland, China or any of the Nokia plants spread around the world, the end product will be absolutely identical. All the factories manufacture phones with identical components, identical machinery and identical processes.
This is a myth that ought to be stamped out once and for all. Unscrupulous retailers in the middle- and far-east perpetuate it and use it as an excuse to sell phones imported from Finland at a premium, or they even relabel phones imported via the normal channels (usually from China) thus voiding the warranty, all in order to charge a bit more and fleece the customer.
You of all people should know better.
See... the problem that I have is this. In the last year and 5 months a close friend and I have purchased 5 Nokia phones. I started with an E51 followed by an E71, then an N85. He purchased a 5800, and now N97. All of these have been NAM phones except the E51. The two E-series phones are made in Finland according to the tags. The others are all made in China. The E51 was never a problem. I'm still using the E71 on a daily basis very heavily. The N85 was replaced by Nokia within 1 month of me purchasing it. It had a defective speaker at first which is what I sent it in for. When Nokia received it they said it would no longer power on and replaced it with a new one. The 5800 would not work on 3G from day one. It was sent in and, according to the repair had a defective radio and was fixed. Now, the N97 is experiencing the same defective speaker issue as the N85 and it's only just over a week old. It now must be sent in for repair. It's extremely disheartening.
I really want to believe that the phones that are made in China are of equal quality, but the problem is that in my experience, Nokia phones have had a 60% failure rate. Five phones; three of them failed - all failures came from phones made in China. The two perfectly working phones are made in Finland.
I don't want to start a war on what parts are used by which fabricators. It appears that's irrelevant based on my first-hand experience. If or when I order a Nokia in the future I will forever feel as though I need to be diligent in making sure that the phone is made in Finland for fear that another made in China phone will result in yet another failure. I have plenty of products made in China. It's clear that they know how to assemble electronics over there. Sadly, the Nokias assembled there seem to be missing that classic Nokia quality that most of us have come to know.

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Well the subject spells it out, No need to address all the issues. My biggest dissappointment besides a $600 phone not functioning after only 5 weeks of use is; I paid premium price for a premium mobile phone. For the price of a N97 I could have bought a good notebook and a simple mobiel phone. The biggest issue was that is said "MADE IN CHINA". Does it matter where it was made vs who made it? Absolutely, does matter. When you pay top dollar for a complex device would you rather see it made in china, Korea or Finland? How many of you folks would buy the same item and choose to take one that is made in china? If they had told me that I would be recieving a chinese made original Nokia N97, I defintely would not have completed the purchase. I know I am not alone on this one.

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The fact is China has a quality control problem, which is something Nokia should think about. It wasn't that long ago that they sold poisonous wheat gluten to the U.S, that killed hundreds of pets. It wasn't that long ago that the U.S. Bought drywall from China that all had to be replaced due to it giving off fumes and making people sick. It wasn't that long ago that the U.S. Bought tainted toothpaste from China that was recalled. Recently, they sold tainted infant milk that sickened a lot of infants. These are just a few I know about, I am sure these more.. I am sure in all these cases they said the quality of the product was the same as what you could buy else where. If I have a choice between something made in China or Finland, I would pick the Finland product. It's all backed up by facts.
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someone got a brandnew N97 from O2 in Germany. The interesting thing is the packages says "Made in China". My own N97 was made in Finland, as expected. Does Nokia really assemble some N97 in China? Or could this be a faked phone!? But I do not expect O2 to sell faked phones... What does Nokia say about this?
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psychomania
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