Nomad explorer probl

I have a Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra 40g.
Last week, I was able to connect and transfer files.
Now, whenever I open Nomad explorer, it crashes and closes. (it also crashes my desktop)
What's causing this problem? I uninstalled/reinstalled but it still crashes.
I have some data files I need to access and can't get to them in the Mediasource organizer.
What can I do!?
Thanks in advanced.
-zg23

I've never liked Nomad Explorer much, and am not sure how you'll solve that specific crashing issue.
If you're after data files you can also get them with PlayCenter and Notmad. For advice on using Notmad see PlayCentre 3.02.52.

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Is anybody experiencing this frustrating problem?
I recently purchased a Creative Nomad Zen Xtra and installed the included software (drivers, Creative MediaSource and Nomad Explorer) on a Toshiba M200 notebook. My Creative MediaSource version is 2.02.06. I'm running Windows XP Pro SP.
When I plug in my Nomad, Windows detects the device just fine.
When I run MediaSource, everything looks good. I can see PC Music Library, My Computer and NOMAD Jukebox Zen Xtra in the left Sources pane. When I click on the NOMAD icon in sources, then on Music Library, all the music on my Nomad shows up in the right pane.
By the way, so far I've been using Windows Media Player to transfer my music files to the Nomad, no problem. The reason I started using MediaSource is that I want to create playlists for my Nomad, and I can't seem to find a way to create or transfer playlists themselves using Windows MP.
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Thanks for the information.
Yes, I did try upgrading ALL of the Creative software on my notebook, including the driver. That did not solve the crash problem. At that point, I tried uninstalling all Creative Software, rolled back my system to the state before I installed any Creative software (using WinXP System Restore), and reinstalled the original Creative software. The problem remains. I guess I could try rolling the system state back again, but then install only the latest version of the software. I don't know. At this point I am flailing and I am thinking there is no way to make this stuff work on my computer.
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