Nomad jukebox 3 sticking power swi

Hi,
Can anybody tell me the cure for a sticky on/off switch? If i need too I will take the thing apart and clean the switch. It isn't under warranty anyway, but I only found one screw and it's in behind the battery cover plate. Can somebody help me get this thing apart?
Thank you in advance. sealpt

If you open it you will break the warranty. The remaining screws are hidden under each of the feet, which can be slid out.
Hopefully it's just a case of opening it and reseating the power switch correctly.

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harikari wrote:
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ps.
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Not if you add content to the NJB though. Every time you change content it has to rebuild the library.

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