Nomad Jukebox Battery L

What do I need to do to extend battery life for my Nomad Jukebox. Currently I only get 0 minutes battery life after recharging. Even with new top-quality rechargable batteries. It's as if the batteries aren't taking a charge. I checked for updates for my device and I am told everything is up-to-date. Thanks.

If your batteries are new, then the Nomad probably isn't charging them properly. If they aren't new, then they may be getting a memory (basically going bad) and should be totally discharged and recharged for overnight. If that doesn't work, then replace them.
Try PowerEx 2300mAh Batteries and get the C204F charger. The C204 has the ability to completely discharge the batteries before recharging and will recharge them to their full potential.
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Nomad jukebox battery problem....help

I was charging my player on the floor and my girlfriend stood on the plug that goes into the player and it broke the socket inside the player. I managed to glue it into place and it has lasted a while but now its virtually impossible to charge my player in the usual way. Is there a battery charger available so i can just pop the battery out and charge it seperately? any help would be greatly recieved. Im lost without me 30gb of choonz on me.

Ah, well spotted. I saw Nomad Jukebox in the subject and assumed the original NOMAD Jukebox.
It is possible to have 30Gb though, as the dri've can be upgraded.
But the breakaway power socket is also more common with the Xtra.
So to the original poster, if this is an Xtra you cannot buy a battery charger. You will need to fix your player.

Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra - Battery 3.6v vs. 3

Hey all - I'm looking to purchase a replacement battery for my 30g Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra and I've found some cheap ones from ebay (such as this one). The question I have is this: my stock battery is 3.6v but this replacement (which has the same parts number) is rated at 3.7v - is this a problem? Will this damage my player?
Please let me know what issues this may cause and what successes/failures people have had with replacement batteries.
Thanks in advance!!!
Dale

I found the following discussion on PowerStream.com :
<A target=_blank><B>Q: What is the difference between the 3.6 volt and the 3.7 volt lithium-ion and lithium-polymer cells?</B>[/url]A. This quesiton has been on my mind for a few months. There is a lot of folklore out there about this. It confused me for two reasons. Firstly, I have never heard of a higher charge voltage for some cells and not others. Secondly, the 3.6 is just a rule-of-thumb average of the battery voltage anyway . The actual voltage varies between 4.2 volts and 3 (or 2.8) volts during the discharge. It doesn't have one voltage. You can't just put a meter on a cell and say "this one is a 3.6 volt cell" or "this one is a 3.7 volt cell."So I asked a friend who has a PhD in battery chemistry and has been designing, testing, and manufacturing lithium ion and li-poly cells for over 5 years. Here is his answer:<I>There is no difference between 3.6V and 3.7V cells. The reasons why people say 3.6V in one case and 3.7V in other cases are due to discharge rate. If you discharge your lithium ion cells with 0.2C rate, the middle point voltage of the cells is 3.7V. If you discharge your lithium ion cells with 2C rate, the middle point voltage of the cells is 3.6V or even lower. The middle point voltage of a lithium ion cells, including Polymer Lithium ion Cells, is between 3.6V and 3.7V, variable upon discharging rate.</I>In other words, it is mostly marketing hype. Now the modern cells tend to keep their voltage higher during discharge than the old ones, so a marketing person could easily say "this makes the average higher, so let's call it a 3.7 volt cell."But why stop there? Why not rate the voltage as the peak voltage and get the jump on everybody? "It's a 4.2 volt cell, demand nothing less!"So don't get caught up with the hype when selecting a batteryMessage Edited by RobertoV05 on 0--2006 2:37 AM

Nomad jukebox zen (5 years old) battery

' The battery of my nomad jukebox zen is exhausted. Where can I found it's the creative part number is BA20203R60800.
other indicati've numbers : 240AE28CHMI
LP083467ARP
Thanks.
PS My country is ITALIA

peppecirillo wrote:
' The battery of my nomad jukebox zen is exhausted. Where can I found it's the creative part number is BA20203R60800.
other indicati've numbers : 240AE28CHMI
LP083467ARP
Thanks.
PS My country is ITALIA
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Nomad Jukebox 40GB battery quest

I've had my player for a little over year. It uses a 3.6v rechargebable lithium battery. I typically play it in my car using an FM modulator.
After only a few hours, the batter is dead. I basically have to recharge it every night. Is it possible for the battery to wear out? If so, can I get a generic battery to replace it, or does it have to be a Creative brand battery? Thanks.

If your player is a Zen Xtra 40GB player then you can buy 3rd party batteries; same batteries as Zen NX and MuVo? series or buy them from Creative. Couple of battery sites:
http://www.pdainternalbattery.com/nomadpdabattery.html
http://www.bargainbasementbatteries.com/mp3-player-creative.html
If it is a Nomad Jukebox (NJB) then any decent AA NiMH batteries will work.
If it is a Nomad Jukebox3 then you may be out of luck ... as those batteries are in short supply or folks selling them on eBay want a lot of money.

Nomad Jukebox 1 Battery Issue, I thi

I just bought this nomad jukebox off of somebody in the area at a local event. I do not know much about it. I have had it for almost a week now and I noticed that after about hour to 2 hours of play time that it will start acting up. The screen will freeze up. Then it shuts down and says the battery is low, but it was fully charged and only running for like an hour or at the most 2 hours at times, but really I think the most I have been able to run it is hour and a half.
Is this a problem that can be fixed by me just simply buying new batteries? That is what I am kind of leaning toward. Or is it something wrong with the player or the charger on the player? Thank You. I will appreciate any answers.

The original batteries in the first JB would only last for about 3 hours at the most anyway. NiMH rechargeables don't hold the same amount of charge as the LiOn batteries used by the newer players. You can use any NiMH rechargeables so you can replace the originals with 2350 or 2500 mAH batteries for a longer life, but you will never get close to the 4 hrs+ quoted for the newer players.
PB

Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra VS Winows Media Player - Help?

I have a 40gig Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra - a computer crash a year ago resulted in a replacement by the computer company - and it came with Windows Media Player.... when I tried to run it and had already installed the Creative software/Music library - Media Player crashed my computer every time - had to uninstal...,. now - that computer is defecti've and has just been replaced again by the maker - and before I load the Creatai've Software wondered if this is what is interfering with Media Player? Does anyone know? When I buy music it looks for Windows Media Player I believe - and I can play it and transfer the music in Creative program - BUT - it no longer lists my music library as single songs but as folders - and I have to go specifically into a remote folder to try to find the downloaded music and transfer to the Nomad....
Any help is appreciated..... I'm lost!
Thanks
KB

The firmware update only works on a windows XP machine.
you also need to have Windows media player 0 installed
you must not have windows media player or windows media player runtime lurking in your windows XP add/remove programmes bit on the control panel.
if you do have WMP first remove it ( roll back) then re-boot, then remove windows media player runtime ( rioll back) and re-boot.
open windows media player, if it is windows media player 0 then you should be OK, if its windows media player 9 you need ot download and install windows media player 0.
Check again to make sure that windows media player and windows media player runtime are not in the add/rmove programs.
Back up everything on the player, all music, playlists and data files.
update the firmware.
if it stalls part way, like it did for me the last time i updated a Zen Xtra ( last weekend -installing a new motherboard ) dont panic.
it will go to rescue mode, close the firmware update, the player will go to rescue mode, then re-satart the update, on the zen xtra, slect re-load OS then on the firmware update click on English. then slect re-load os on the player.
make sure that the player is fully charged, and that the mains charger is also attached.
just out of interest, when you remove the front panel on your zen xtra to get to the battery, does the headphone jack ( visable through a hole in the top right) have a blob of red paint on

Nomad jukebox zen xtra firrmware version 1.03

i own a nomad jukebox zen xtra 30gb which has been running in excellent condition for three years..i want to make a database of all driver and firmware versions on my pc..
i've tried locating this firmware version(.03.02)?everywhere(creative downloads page included)..but haven't met with success..i would appreciate if anyone would tell me where to look for it..thanks in advance

First you must install the driver http://support.creative.com/Products...me=MP3+Players on the computer. Have a battery that is charged. What you did is you erased the firmware(reload O.S.)so the player has none. That is why you got the message you got. You are going to lose all the files(music) on the player because when you install the firmware? you are going to format the dri've before you do that.
Download & install the driver first. The version 2.0.00 driver Then check to see if player is recognized(plug it into a rear usb port if using a desktop NO USB HUBS) Download the firmware file to your desktop on the computer
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Nomad jukebox zen xtra - cannot create file w message when trying totransfer fi

My 30G nomad jukebox zen xtra was working great until recently. Now when I power my player up after a day of no use, it takes 0-5 minutes to rebuild the library. When I begin to transfer files using Media source after a few transfers I get the "unable to create file" message and can no longer transfer. I have tried disk clean up and re-booting to no avail. I tried installing the new firmware and this worked for about 80 songs and then I began getting the same problems. I have completely cleaned my PC of adware and spyware and this has no effect. I love my player but am becoming a little frustrated. Would anyone have any ideas? This all started when I turned on my player one day and all of the music was gone. I re-transfereed everything back and later noticed that I had two of everything. I deleted all of the duplicates and from that point on it began to take 5 minutes to rebuild the library but I could still transfer files with no problems. One last thing, when I run disk cleanup in rescue mode, once it gets to 99% done it stalls there for about 0-5 minutes before going back to the rescue mode menu.
scott

i experienced the same problem. until 2 weks ago it worked fine. but a visited the support site and found out that all the software was new. so i downloaded the new versions. even the new firmware with the e at the end. i was at the edge to smash my monitor when i found out that after the firmware update the sound was hearing so quiet. after rebuil os and searching 2 hour on the net for the previous firmware release, prior to E release, i solve the sound problem.
but another appeard. cannot copy files on the player. if i choose to delete them, they disappear. i turn off the zen nx, turn back on and the files were still there. practically all the copy/delete/new folder/paste function were blocked. and the same problem on WIN XP and win 2000. all this because i installed the new versions for nomad explorer, nomad mediacenter, nomad plugin for media center.
solution: uninstalled all the creative software. put the original cd in the dri've. installed all the original software. it was running perfect. so, i could operate again in the data files on the player.
so i thought it was the driver problem since the media library i could access just fine. so i kept the original driver but installed all the new software (mediasource, nomad explorer, nomad zen plugin for mediasource).
guess what? the accesing proble appeard again. i think that the better solution is to stick to the original software.
and one last find. after the E firmware adveture, i experince what other are and was praing not to happen to me. the battery is lasting much much short period. and the green light if you look carefully is fluctuating in intensity. this was not happening until i burn the new E firmware. .0.02e. now after the rebuild os and writng a firmware it displays .0.02 without the E. the sound is like before. 24 damages your ears but the battery problem stills persit. it driving me crazy.

Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra 60gp prob

Well, to start off with, I loved my mp3 player. So far, I ran into problems that I could not fix. I downloaded all of the updates that were needed. My mp3 player, a Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra 60gb, suddenly would not work the same way. When the power adapter of battery are inserted, the player starts up. When they are pulled the player shuts down. One of the problems is when the player is on, it doesn't want to leave the main screen that says, "EAX". The hard dri've is not spinning, and no data is being accessed. I found on this website a page that tells users how to reset their mp3 player. For my mp3 player, it must be turned off for me to do a hard disk check, re-installation of operating system, or a format of the hard dri've...which is another problem, because I cannot turn it off. As I stated previously, the player is either on or off depending on if the battery is in or not. I am totally puzzeled. I cannot connect the player to the computer because of this problem. So either I have a new 60gb laptop hard dri've, or I figure out a way to get this to work. I haven't been able to find any threads like this or any users experiencing these problems.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
-Matt

Ok... I think I figured it out. I finally got into the recovery mode. I let the battery sit out of the mp3 player for a while, hoping that there is a capacitor that would run out of power. I put the battery back in and got into recovery mode. I ran disk clean up. Nothing changed. I had the same problem I first started off with. So I took the battery out again for an hour. Came back, and got back into recovery mode. I reinstalled the OS. Everything seems to be working fine.
I hope that anyone having a similar problem with this mp3 player can keep this in the back of their mind if they cannot get into recovery mode due to a boot up and shut down problem.
-Matt

No power after firmware upgrade on nomad jukebox zen xtra

I have the nomad jukebox zen xtra 30gig that froze up over a year ago after i tried to install the firmware upgrade. After the unsuccessful attempt, the mp3 player stopped working.... I mean no power at all. I've changed the battery and recharged the battery from an outside source...still no luck. I can't even try any of the suggestions anyone gives on this site because I have no power.Does anyone have this problem? More important, does anyone have this problem and know of a solution?I've already set my pc back to wmp 0, I have the firmware on the desktop waiting. Now all I need is some power on this unit so that i can try some of the suggestions that seems to be working for people. Thank you

I have the same problem too, but my unit is a?Creative Normad Junebox Zen Xtra 40GB. I was trying to find a solution to my problem when I read about your problem. I have pressed the reset button, on / off switch, removed the battery, reinstalled the battery, and nothing seems to work. I was hoping you?might get a solution to this problem, so that I might be able to fix my MP3 player. If I hear of a solution, I will let you know, thanks for sharing. Issue:? While updating the firmware to the Zen Xtra 40 GB, the unit powered down and?has never came on again. There seems to be no real reason why the unit should not power up. The battery and the AC adapter are working correctly. I am very disappointed in Creative...

Touch vs. Nomad Jukebox (yes, the ORIGIN

I am getting antsy and bored waiting for the Touch firmware to be released. I was looking for a game and saw my good ol' reliable blue nomad jukebox sitting on the shelf. I gave it good hug. For over fi've years that CD-player sized original HDD based MP3 player has gone everywhere with me. Until a few weeks ago when i bought a Zen Touch.
I scoured the net, comparing the Zens to iPods to Rios to Ri'vers. In the end, my personal experience (happy ) with creative made me choose the Touch in the end.
Everyone likes to compare the Touch to the iPod, calling it the "iPod killer." Well let me tell you something, oh my brothers, that overweight blue monster with its 6 hours of battery life is the Touch killer. Hell with why the Touch is better then the iPod, lemme tell you why the Nomad Jukebox (C, or DAP as you care to call it) is better than the Touch:
My current "listening on a daily basis" music library come in at about 3.5GB. That's music i like to hear every day. That's plenty to fit on a Jukebox, and obviously on a Touch as well</LI>
I'm out on a research farm for about 5-7 hours a day. Both the 6hr Jukebox and the 24hr Touch battery deli'ver.</LI>
The Jukebox has fully functional EAX settings, the Touch doesn't</LI>
With a set of surround headphones, i can have 4 channel surround on the Jukebox. Stereo only on the touch.</LI>
The Jukebox has a three band EQ with programmable crossover frequency. The touch has built in EQ and a faulty programable one.</LI>
The Jukebox has a tree structured queue list, and individual items can be removed or added. Nothing like that on the touch</LI>
Pushing UP/DOWN simultaneously allows quick scrolling, and there's a page up/page down function on the Jukebox - the lists also wrap so you can go from top to bottom easily. Scroll, wait, wait, and wait on the Touch. If you're at the bottom of a big playlist... well, forget it.</LI>
Play mode available directly from Current Track screen.</LI>
All i need is a microphone to record lectures on the Jukebox. The touch requires an external part to do that.</LI>
I choose what comes up when the jukebox starts, and what volume. That way i don't scream bloody murder going from my car to my headphones.</LI>
Tracks, artists, and albums starting with 'the' have 'the' ignored on the Jukebox. The Clarks is filed between Chumbawumba and Coldplay on the JB.</LI>
Sleep and wakeup timers on the Jukebox.</LI>
Hardware settings on the Jukebox let me choose between it running like a Beetle Diesel, getting 56 mpg, or a Ferrari Testerozza, and getting single digit mileage.</LI>
No "push me to play everything and screw up your playlist" button on the Jukebox.</LI>
What advantages does the Touch have over my Jukebox?
Higher SNR (98 vs 96 i think, cant find Jukebox spec)</LI>
Smaller</LI>
Better battery life</LI>
Promise of better firmware</LI>
I'm an audiophile-geeky-gadget guy. I own 99.98% the MP3's i have on my PC. NapsterToGo, Y!MU, amongst others are appealing to me, as i refuse to 'stick it to the man' by illegally pirating music. You say only the record industry is getting screwed over - don't forget the musicians have a paycheck too. Hoping for support, just like we got support when DRM first came to be for our JB's, our Zen's and such, i loyally bought your Touch. I even remember the combo beta/stable firmwares.
When a product that you made over fi've years ago has more features, functions, and capabilites than something you've released recently - that's quite a tradgedy.
I remember a bus ride sophmore year in HS, my first MP3 player. The night before i spent hours ripping the songs to the player until 5am. It was cool, people were amazed, i sold them on this "thing" that held every song that they owned. It was both 337 and Chic.
Now people see the Touch and ask, "is that the new iPod?"
I found that sales is like a marriage. You need a first impression, you need your customer to fall in love with the product, and you need to keep them interested as long as possible. Well, after fi've years... i want a divorce. I won't buy an iPod - Apple will lose share because of their control-freak nature on their products. But i won't be buying Creative products anytime soon, or even again.
This message was a bit of humor to begin with - i started fiddling with my JB this evening. Then it got me to thinking, what happened to the creative that used to post new drivers/firmwares/updates every week or so? Where'd they go?
Where's that old Creative Labs that was just that... Creative?
EDIT: I thought you might like to know that the FW on the JB is 4.0/2.98beta... the last dual boot beta creative put out. Still available on the Nomadness.net site
Message Edited by harikari on 07-26-2005 08:3 PM

harikari wrote:
When i first got my JB, it had battery life comprable to an iPod, about 2 hours. With the ability in later firmwares to tweak HD settings, i could extend it to about 6 with minor inconviences like load time and some gapping.
It depends on the files though. With 28kbit/s MP3s you would get about 4 hours, maybe more with higher capacity batteries.
At the time, the only other portable audio was CD, and think of how many people still have and use CD players. True it was a projectile weapon...
Actually I liked that its form factor was similar to a CD player. It meant getting cases was easy, although I went for the skin case.
And i liked the NiMH batteries, they could be used in anything, and they lasted much, much longer than alkaline. You know why the JB says "Use only Creative NiMH?" One, so you didn't recharge alkaline cells; two, alkaline cells ran the player for <EM>maybe</EM> and hour and a half, to
ps.
They were certainly worried about using the wrong batteries in it, although of course any NiMH batteries, ideally high capacity, work.
Oh, and i booted the JB and Touch (cold boot)... took about the same amount of time. Touch was a 'touch' faster.
Not if you add content to the NJB though. Every time you change content it has to rebuild the library.

Nomad Jukebox Zen NX 20GB locking up

I just bought a Nomad Jukebox Zen NX off a friend and it worked fine last night. I transferred 800 songs onto it and then deleted them all this morning so I could re-organize. Now it's locked up. Doesn't matter if I use battery power or AC power. It turns on fine, goes straight to the menu and then nothing. The scroll won't work, my laptop won't recognize it or anything. Any ideas? Thanks

I assume you've got the manual, yes? It probably needs to be reset, and/or have the firmware reinstalled (the manual is online, so you can do that). Find a pin or paperclip, and hit the rest button. Should probably fix it. Worst case scenario, you can wipe the dri've and reinstall the firmware. I believe you hit the reset button and hold down the play button till it gets you to the menu with the reformat/rescue stuff.
If your computer still won't recognize it after that, though I'm not sure. I'm having similar problems with my refurbished Zen Touch.

Nomad Jukebox Zen NX Durability--W

I have a Nomad Jukebox Zen NX 20 Gig player and it has served me well. But heres a testimony to that claim that is unsurpassed in my mind--
I have a radio in my bathroom that i listen to when i'm getting ready, so i brought my player in with my radio transmitter and was planning on listening to some of my favorite tunes while showering. Well, I have a shelf above my toilet where my radio sits, and for some dumb reason I decided i'd lay my player on top of my radio and get in the shower. Well it was playing good as usual, then all of a sudden I heard a crash, and my Zen NX had fell into the toilet!! Totally submerged. I grabbed it and all kinds of water poured out of the thing. I had to remove the battery for it to turn off.... Well i immediately put it underneath a fan i had running in my bedroom. I left it there for one full day, and then the next day I powered it up and the **bleep** thing worked like nothing had happened!!!! And still is today 3 weeks later. Wow i was so surprised. I thought my my investment had literally went down the toilet. But happily it still works great. What a great product!
Thanks again for such a great product,
J. Bevins
Kentucky

I think it's not uncommon to drop things in the toilet etc. if you are listening, and "doing the business", it can be easy to drop it (for the guys at least).
The key here is to make sure the player is off, remove any power source straight away. Then leave the player in a dry warm environment for as long as you can, ideally 3 to 5 days, if not more.
This is even covered in one of the Rio Karma FAQs

Nomad Jukebox 2 keeps turning itself on (and o

Hi
Apologies if you have seen this before but I didn't really use the message subject line properly the first time around...
I have had a Nomad Jukebox 2 (0mb) for a few years now but just recently it has begun to turn itself on for no reason (wearing the battery down), or turn itself off after only playing a few tracks, any ideas? Or is it terminal?
Andy

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