Non access modifier: default

Top of the morning.
Im studying for my SCJP exam and I have 2 text books.
One of the text books asks the following question:
(Im only writing the one answer im sceptical about)
which of the following declarations are illegal?
A. default String s;The answer at the back says that the above is illegal because defaultis not a keyword. But am I right in saying that unless you explicitly declare a class member
as having one of the 4 access levels, it is automatically give default access - so in essence
writing default is redundant if you don't give the member private, public or protected access.
Nevertheless you could write default String s; couldn't you?
The above declaration does compile.
Thanks

shamrock08 wrote:
The answer at the back says that the above is illegal because defaultis not a keyword. [It is|http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/nutsandbolts/_keywords.html], it is just not one [related access|http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/nutsandbolts/switch.html].
The above declaration does compile.It does not in Eclipse. Lets see your compiling code.
Nevertheless you could write default String s; couldn't you?
No.

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