Non curved audio fades

Hi
I would like to use keyframes on the timeline to adjust audio levels with out the fade ramping in Final Cut Pro 7. With other editing software I have always been able to do this, but when I put a fade in using key frames, the line in between the two keyframes always curves and gives that 'ramping' effect.
Does anyone know how to make it just change with a straight line instead of curving like it automaticaly does?
Thanks
Message was edited by: Kestifer

Read this thread: [Smooth Audio Fade Out ?|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12417199].
It covers this issue extensively

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hi, sorry i should have explained myself better, < </div>
No problem, happens all the time around here.
Welcome to the family.
what i need to hear is a straight fade out of the audio and i was originaly using FC pro and was achieving this without any hassle, you will notice the curved fade which seems to be the only option in FC express drops off at the end of the fade which much to my distress sounds a bit abrupt for my particular piece. It seems i will have to buy FC pro...< </div>
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If you put two audio keyframes a few seconds apart in a track, and you pull
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Indeed... I've often wondered the same thing and I'm glad to see the replies... Especially the SINGLE keyframe idea.
As an audio editor, I NEED at least 4 variable crossfades to be effective /\, (\, (), /) where the ) is the 'logrithmic' fade.
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