Non PMS colors created using Ai

I had a designer create a logo using Ai. I sent the logo source fIle to a printer to use it for business cards and stationary. I was told the colors in the logo cannot be replicated exactly for other information on the cards and stationary because they were not PMS colors. That is hard for me to believe since he has the source file and Ai software. Do I need to find a better printer or is he correct? Thank you

It could very well be that the print vendor rather not deal with the file as it exists. Most print vendors just want to RIP and print the file and not have to mess with the file itself. This eliminates an objective misinterpretation of what the color should be based on some prepress technician's guess and then have a customer ( you perhaps ) who is unwilling to pay for the job because of the miscommunication. So, yes, it might be a good idea to go back to the designer and have them assign the appropriate spot color(s). This is all happenstance due to the fact you have not discussed the details of the logo's color. Could you post the color names and CMYK percentages?

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Hello,
Good Day
I have job having 7 Colors and I have been asked to done it in 5 Colors.
(1) Pantone 485CVC (RED)
(2) Pantone 356CVC (GREEN)
(3) Pantone 116CVC (YELLOW)
(4) Pantone 301CV (D-BLUE)
(5) Pantone 279C (L-BLUE)
(6) Pantone 732C (D-BROWN)
(7) Pantone 730C (L-BROWN)
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Ahmed Ali
[email protected]

Since this is (evidently) being prepared for screen printing, your options will be affected by answers to these questions:
Are halftone dots going to be allowed? Screen printing setups (especially in common T-shirt shops) often require solids only.
If the screen printing setup can accommodate halftoning, at what halftone ruling? When a particular screen printing setup is limited to very course (ugly) halftone ruling--commonly 30 lpi or less--one often opts for textures or grain to achieve the effect of shading.
Are the inks going to be opaque? Opaque inks are most common, but limit the possible results when overlapped. Translucent inks are only suitable for white or very light substrate colors. If the screen setup is sophisticated enough to support decent halftone ruling, and will be printed on a white substrate, then the colors you have listed could be accomplished simply building the file as ordinary four-color process, instead of with 5 colors. (None of the colors you've listed—red, green, yellow, two blues, two browns—suggest requiring a 5th spot ink.)
Illustrator does not support multi-ink swatches. You can use multiple fills and/or strokes set to overprint to replicate it in output. But Illustrator cannot properly display overprinting of opaque inks in its interface. Overprint preview always assumes the translucent inks of offset printing.
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Your boss is saying "duotone," but he's thinking of the functionality of a multichannel file using spot inks. Even Photoshop's quadtone would not give you five inks.
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So document preparation is nothing to do with print production?? That's new.
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i originally created some artwork in CMYK, the printer suggested i make it a 2 color job to get better color (some of my cmyk colors were out of their press' gamut).
Since i don't have a Pantone's Tints Book, i had to rely on photoshop for matching the CMYK version to pantone equivalents.
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http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5010/duotonezp1.jpg
Sample of Random PMS colors:
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4328/spotcomparesb2.jpg

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>(some of my cmyk colors were out of their press' gamut)
If the are CMYK, they are, by their very definition, within press gamuts. If your colors are out of gamut, they've been defined in some other color space, such as RGB, which has a considerably larger gamut.
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>For some reason, photoshop isn't displaying PMS colors as accurate as Illustrator.
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could you inform us, on which version of InDesign you are using?
With which version was this document created initially?
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Terri Jo,
First off, each document has its own Swatches palette (also its own Symbol, Brush and Styles palettes.) So when you say "the" Swatches palette, it is not clear whether you are asking how to add Pantone colors to the Swatches palette belonging to the current document, or whether you are asking how to add Pantone colors to the Swatches palette that gets installed in new blank documents.
To do the former, you just open one of the Pantone Swatch libraries (from the Window menu), have a document open, and click on any Pantone swatch that you want to add to the Swatches palette of the current top open document. To add multiple swatches you can also shift-click to select a range of them, then use the Add to Swatches command on the library's palette menu.
To do the latter, you open as a regular document the Adobe Illustrator Startup_CMYK or Startup_RGB documents located in the Plug-ins folder. Then you do the same steps as above to copy swatches from the Pantone libraries to the startup document's Swatches palette. Then you save the startup document, and restart Illustrator.
The contents of all the palettes in the startup documents are copied into any new blank document that you create for that color mode. Since palette contents take up room in each file, just like regular art does, as long as you have the startup document open for editing you may want to take the opportunity to make your new files smaller, by removing from your startup documents any brushes, symbols or patterns that you never expect to use.
And finally, if what you want to do is set up a swatch library palette that contains your favorite Pantone colors, and which is available for
all documents, whether new blank ones or existing documents that were created earlier by yourself or even sent to you by someone else, what you should do is make a new blank document, install your favorite Pantone colors into it, and save that document with a name of your choice (like "Favorite PMS colors") in the Presets/Swatches folder. Then quit Illustrator, restart, open that document from the Swatch Libraries menu, and check the Persistent option in the library's palette menu. The Persistent option means that the library gets automatically loaded when you startup Illustrator. (Any random .ai document saved anywhere can be loaded as a library palette using the Other Library... command, but only documents that were located in the appropriate Presets folder when Illustrator was started will appear on the pullout menu and have a Persistent checkbox.)

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