Non-SAP Source systems for gas and power trading operations

Hi Experts, I have this client who has no R/3 systems. They have few MS Access databases, Oracle systems annd MS SQL DB. I have seen some of the most commonly used tables in all the databases and doesn't look like there are not even a single InfoObject that is similar to any one in Business Content. Now this makes me feel that I need create everything from scratch. Can anybosy guide me on the best way to go about extracting data from this non-SAP systems. Right from connecting to these systems to extracting data in BI to creating some meaningful reports.
They do not have the concept of Master data here. All they have is Data in the MS Access databases.I need some assistance from experts here in how do I go about organizing this.

hi,
The BW can be connected to Non-SAP data using DB or UD connect.
The data in Non-SAP source system is staged in form of tables.
You can extract the data using Data Source based on DB or UD connection.you can define new info objects and data flow which extracts the data. In DS description you can mention the Non-SAP source system tables from where you want to extract the data, after that u can mention the fields to be extracted in BW.
regards,
Arvind.

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https://websmp203.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700001965262003
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Hi,
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- Can a company implement SAP BI without also having the SAP ERS applications?
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hi dear,
clearly the most valuable input given by BW is a native integration with all SAP world...
well, you can manage a BW without having a SAP ERP as source system:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw33/helpdata/en/80/1a618ae07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
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Hi Vik,
Please follow the below steps in RSA1 to create Source system
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3.Transfer
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Regards,
Venkatesh.

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'implementation strategy for non sap sources'.

Hi,
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Hii.
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> intarget Source system tab -
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We are using NetWeaver 2004s BI and try to connect to ECC 5.0. I tried to create SAP source system but got error message saying "RFC user logon failed". When I check RFC destination in ECC 5.0 for BI, the test connection is ok, but the remote logon will pop up another logon screen asking for id and password. I am pretty sure that the id and password in RFC destination is correct. The RFC destination in BI is ok. Can you help me out with this? Thanks a lot in advance.

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Non-SAP Source systems for gas and power trading operations

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