Non-Server Hard drive speed ?

I'm looking at one of the new Mac-Minis, and the server version is listed as having dual 500GB 7200 RPM drives.
However, the non-server version only lists 320GB or 500GB SATA drives, with no speed listed. I've looked at a display model and have seen that the 320GB drive is 5400 RPM. Is the 500GB drive 5400 RPM as well, or 7200 RPM?
Thanks, Chris

Now I see it, thank you.
The standard Mac Mini comes with 5400 RPM drives, while the Server edition comes with 7200 RPM drives.
As long as you're not needing a built-in Superdrive, the server edition sounds like a better deal, factoring in the increased rotational speed and drive capacity.
Thanks!

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SSD for the "data", aka the SQL DB. Spinning 10k for the OS in RAID 1 is fine.

Paksher_Help_Desk wrote:We can find less expensive drives on Amazon for the RAID 10, but they are 15K, not 10K. Is there any reason why I wouldn't want to buy the faster speed drives? Do we need the slower speed drives for the RAID 10 drives? What's the logic between the two different speeds when combining RAIDs? What about solid state drives? Is anyone using these in servers at this time?
Make sure you are looking at Enterprise drives - that's one of the big reasons for price differences. Consumer grade drives are cheaper for a reason.
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SSD is absolutely...

My itunes library was on my PC. About two years ago I switched it to my Seagate server/hardrive. (itunes-preferences-advanced-change library). Last summer (2012) I bought a macbook, which seems to access the seagate server hard drive fine for word docs,

My itunes library was on my PC. About two years ago I switched it to my Seagate server/hardrive. (itunes-preferences-advanced-change library). Last summer (2012) I bought a macbook, which seems to access the seagate server hard drive fine for word docs, excel spreadsheets,etc. It also seems to have started its own library which is not complete. My PC died this summer (I still have it though).
Now when syncing any of the multiple devices (ipods,ipads, iphones) that we have with my mac book, itunes states that "an error occurred" or the "app cannot be found". Itunes wants me to erase the device and sync with my macbook. The message "The iPhone “Renee’s iPhone” is synced with another iTunes library on “Renee PC”. Do you want to erase this iPhone and sync with this iTunes library? An iPhone can be synced with only one iTunes library at a time. Erasing and syncing replaces the contents of this iPhone with the contents of this iTunes library."appears.
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u can give try to using external enclosre and backup ur files. I hope u will get files back. or using external enclosre with ur hdd boot into Linux and try to mount ur harddisk.
there are multiple no of tutorial to mount apple partion in Linux.

12" 1.33Ghz iBook Hard Drive speed?

hey all,
i'm curious to know if any of you have ended up w/ 5400rpm drives in your 12" 1.33Ghz iBooks. i know of a couple ppl on a diff forum who got stock iBooks and for whatever reason they got 5400rpm 40GB drives. offhand i know there's very little price difference between the 4200 and 5400 drives, so maybe apple is just streamlining their supply line? i'm just wondering if this drive speed is common for the latest revision of the 12" iBooks even tho it isn't something they advertise on the iBook page.
thanks

The hard drive is not a user-installable part. You would void your warranty or AppleCare Protection Plan to open the iBook and install a drive yourself. Since you can't buy a bare hard drive from Apple, they won't install one you've purchased somewhere else. An Apple Authorized Service Provider could install a new hard drive for you, though, without voiding your warranty.
Apple buys hard drives on the open market. If the 4,200RPM drives become constrained, they may find some 5,400RPM drives for a good price and install those for a while. Since the hard drive speed is not specified at the online Apple store, the included component can vary.
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-Doug

How do you confirm the hard drive speed

I am trying to confirm my hard drive speed. I have looked at "about this mac" but can't seem to find it. New MBP 15 inch running Lion

found it.
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Non-SSD Hard Drive, Horizontal Mount May Make Drives Last Longer

Hi. With today's hard drive technology, it should be negligible if the mount is vertical or horizontal. There's no choice with the iMac i7 unless that is user-replaced with an SSD one. But I think if you want to make a non-SSD hard drive last more (assuming it's cool enough in both position and is not upside down), it should be positioned horizontal when you could. If it's not SSD, it still uses the platter and spindle original design which was designed to be used horizontally. Time Capsule is designed more to be mounted horizontally. It's the same with Xserve and the hard drive in the Mac Pro (it may not be just for the space or cooling, since a vertical does save space and in most cases makes the hard drive cooler). I guess most engineers who build critical products instinctively know that horizontal mount would be the safest mount although they haven't made any scientific tests which mount makes a drive last longer. Most mission critical datacenters have theirs horizontally mounted too. With this observation, I've position my back-up external hard drive to the horizontal.
It's strange by there might be truth in these observations. Horizontal makes more sense as the default natural position for mechanics, for things created. If you look at movements and design in nature that resembles a platter, most are in the horizontal or close to that position position. The revolution and rotation of planets, you naturally throw a disc horizotally, fluids in your body default to the horizontal, your brain follows this horizontal position or you get dizzy or get knocked out much like in a Pacquiao fight, if that fluid that's used for balance is not in the horizontal:). That's why you sleep when those fluids are in the vertical when you lay down. If that's a hard drive in vertical, then it sleeps to or does not perform as well minutely. Also if the platter design is from an old design, that of the phonograph (assuming it was based from this design), then no matter what technology is used to better it, intrinsically built-in, in that original design that it's better to have it in the horizontal.
Thanks for looking.
Gbu.
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Hi Alvin777,
before I entered the Mac-world some 4 years ago I always had my HDs mounted horizontal.
With my first iMac (early 2006) that 'view' was slightly shattered.
It was even more shattered when I bought my Mac Pro in Late 2006 and discovered that while the HDs are mounted horizontal they were upside down !!
Nonetheless in all the 4 years of using either my iMacs (on my second one) or my Mac Pro I never had any troubles with the HDs.
And two of the four HDs in my Mac Pro date back from 2006 (320GB Seagates).
So while I would have completely concurred with you 4 years ago, right now I am completely at ease with any way of orientation for HDs.
Happy computing
Stefan
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Just pull the drive out of the FW case is all you probably need to do. Actual FW800 is less than 80MB/sec and more like 72-75MB/sec - which is as slow as your hdd gets from slow inner tracks.
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I still find 10K VelociRaptor ($279 / 600GB) fast, smoother, more responsive, great for system and data drives, even if they are only 135MB/sec, or about what some of your 2TB drives can offer.
QUICK TAKES - A striped pair of Velociraptor 600G 10K HDDs matches the speed of one SSD. For less that the price of one 256G SSD, you can buy two 10K 600G Velociraptor HDDs. If you stripe them (RAID 0), you get the same sustained transfer speed as the SSD. http://www.barefeats.com/quick.html
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Circle with a Slash Through it and Non-Mounting Hard Drive

Hello,
So I have a Macbook Pro (Early 2011) and the other day it was installing some update. It turned off, so I went upstairs to plug it in but once I powered it on and logged in it just shows a circle with a slash on it. The guest user account works fine. After researching on Google, I found out that the circle with slash means its missing boot files and I should try reinstalling the os with an archive and install. It wouldn't show up as a valid partition to recover from. In disk utility, the main hard drive shows up, the Macintosh HD shows up as well but is greyed out and will not mount. I just need to copy the files off it, and then I can do a clean install of the OS.
This is what I get when I try to repair the main hard drive from disk utility:
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Checking prerequisites
Checking the partition list
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Checking the EFI system partition’s size
Checking the EFI system partition’s file system
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Incorporate 0 newer non-checkpoint transactions
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Load and verify Segment Headers
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Load and verify Segment Usage Table
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SokrMan wrote:
The volume C948DC54-AFC3-4E89-81C5-518FEBD8E2AB was found corrupt and can not be repaired.
Problems were encountered during repair of the partition map
First off, thanks for being so detailed it saves a lot of trouble.
What has occured is your GUID partition map has become corrupted, this small hidden section on the drive is responsible for telling the hardware what and sizes of the partitions are on that drive. (OS X Lion, Lion Recovery and EFI)
The only way to rebuild the partition map is to erase and reformat the ENTIRE drive, including the hidden Lion Recovery Partition (which you booted into (Command R) to use Disk Utility to try to repair the drive.) Obviously this can't be done from the same drive booted from.
Unfortunatly with OS X 10.7 Apple didn't provide OS X install disks to install OS X onto a external drive or to boot from to perform the complete erase and reformat of the entire drive.
However if you have a blank powered external drive and a fast, reliable Internet connection (AppleID and password), you can Command R boot into Lion Recovery, format the external drive (Disk Utility: Partition: Options: GUID, Format: OS X Ext. J) and then install Lion from Apple's servers onto the external drive.
Once you have that, reboot holding the Option key down (wired keyboard) and select the external drive to boot from. Once you go through setup, try to grab your files off the internal drive.
(DataRescue can be used to recover deleted or corrupt file structure files directly from the 1's and 0's on the drive itself, it's $99, but a option if for some reason you can't do it manually via drag and drop)
Once you have all your files off the machine (make another copy to another drive and disconnect that drive), use Disk Utility (booted on the external drive, it's in the Utilities folder) to select the entire internal drive (drive makers name and size) and perform a Erase with Security Option Zero All Data. This will take a few hours so wait it out. What this will do is force 0's to every bit on the drive, if the hardware detects a bad sector it will map that bad sector off. (I suspect you have a failed sector in your GUID parititon map.)
Once that's complete, check the Partition tab: that Options is GUID and Format is OS X Extended (j)
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Then go about installing all your apps first, then create a same named user as the old one (different password is fine) if you didn't use the same name as before, and then connect the external drive and transfer your contents of your User file folders (Music, Pictures, Movies etc) into their same name folders on the new setup, don't change anything, just select all and drag and drop, replace. By using the same user name, it preserves your itunes playlists and other data that depends upon correct user pathnames to the secondary files. If you start moving things around you'll lose the pathnames to your secondary files (songs). If your permissions are off, Finder: Get Info to set all (including down inside folders) to your new username.
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http://www.bombich.com/
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718
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xxxx% sudo du -x -h -d 1 /
Password:
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0B /.Trashes
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17G /Applications
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4,4G /private
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1,7G /usr
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I then noticed that my iBook's internal hard drive is slower (at 4200 RPM) than either of the external drives I'm now considering (7200 RPM and 5400 RPM). A test report I read showed the 7200 RPM drive duplicating 1GB twice as fast as the 5400 RPM drive when connected via FireWire to a G5.
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So I've read that DVC Pro HD 1080i60 has a data rate of 14.39 MBytes/sec. I just want to make sure that my computer can handle this speed as I've mostly cut HDV and DV on it to date. Can anyone tell me. Here's what I use:
I've got two internal hard drives (not my boot drive) that I use for my capture scratch. One is a Maxtor Drive with 233.76 GB and according to some online research, appears to have an External Data Transfer Rate of 133 MBps.
The other drive I use is a Seagate 120 GB with an Internal Data Transfer Rate of 683 Mbps and an External Data Transfer Rate of 100 MBps.
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Also, I run a G4 dual 1.25 computer with 1.75 GB Ram.
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Hard drive speed for streaming video

Anyone run into a similar problem as this one:
I recently purchased the HD version of Quantum of Solace (great movie by the way) and I wanted to add this movie into the folder where I keep the rest of my movies. The "planned storage location" was on the MyBook drive connected to my timecapsule. All the SD movies (less than 1.5 G file size) will stream perfectly to my Apple TV. However, this HD file (~ 3.5 G file size) will only play about 10 seconds before the motion on the TV screen freezes. The picture freezing lasts about 5 seconds while the apple TV buffer catches up!
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both HDDs you have will be the same speed... ie 7200rpm.
the only difference between them is that one is internal (either IDE or SATA) and one is USB (1 or 2?)
if you external USB drive is only USB1 (or the USB port you have it connected to is only USB1) then that is much much slower than both your internal IDE or SATA connection and USB2

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