NOOB -MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum questions

Hi
I coming from an Intel background but am now considering changing to AMD; i'd like to keep my agp x800xt pe card and get a MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum board but have got a few questions /concerns.
I have looked on several forums including MSI's own forum and noticed people having problems with corsair value select memory modules.
My questions which i'd be grateful for answers to are:
1. Am gamer and planning to also purchase a 4000+ to put in it - will the board recognise it straight away or will I need to update BIOS..
2. Want to transfer my current 4x512mb 3200 Corsair Value Select sticks to my new board - will there be any compatibility problems? (cannot afford to buy new memory)
3. Will I be able to run the memory 200 + ? as heard the boards base clock for a 4000+ is 166
4. If I can run these at 200 can i do this straight away or will i need to overclock them slowly to get to 200 (will the board see them as 3200 and start at 200?)
5. Anything else I should know/look out for?
Many thanks to all. My first post here so hello to everyone.

Hello !!
Let´s try to answer your questions...
1. It depends on which Bios Version is installed out of the Box, i suggest version 1.8, if you are not using a Venice / Dual-Core or later CPU Core. The advantages of biosses later than version 1.8 are the new Steppings Support and some new Memory Timing Options available in Bios Setup.
2. I do not know exactly, i think most corsair sticks are running well on this Board if you are not going to overclock. But it depends on which Chips are used your Corsair Modules. What could be a problem is that you are going to use 4 Ram Sticks, because with Winchester Cores you would not be able to run 4 Sticks in PC3200Dual Channel Mode (DDR333), even if your Ram would be 100% compatible with your MOBO. Venice and later Cores are able to handle 4 sticks at 400Mhz DDR clock. Except you own 4 single sided Ram Modules.
3. Should be possible if your memory likes it.....
4. No, the Bios will recognize your SPD Timings. So you will have to overclock them from a 166Mhz Memory Divider Base.
5. Take a look here:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46730
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=72024.0
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/7025/memory.pdf
Good Luck
Greetz MurdoK

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thenks
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Hmm . . .
I come here, and I read posts about
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issue why was my system working for about a year?
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Pull the AC plug from PSU and set cmos in clear position with battery removed for atlest 20 minutes perhaps longer .
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It could also be caused by a short or a malfunctioning fan connected to mobo.
Try to disconnect all case fans from mobo headers if you have any connected to additional fan holders.
The chipset fan can also be disconnected momentarily just to see if it posts.
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I copy files to my bro sometimes, 5Gb - all the steam GCF files for CS/HL/CSS/HL2.
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I am an italian lover of MSI motherboards.
After I bought a MSI KT3 Ultra Aru, then MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR and now I have a K8N Neo2 Platinum.
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Hi Italiano,
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Have you details of your power supply. please show Maximum 3.3v,5v & 12v.
These are usually on the side of the power unit.
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Thank you for all the replies. Upgrading to the latest Nvidia IDE-drivers did not fix my problem. Moving to other SATA-ports did not help either. Upgrading the mobo's BIOS is not really an option (I'm using one version before the most recent and there isn't anything in the fixlist of the latest BIOS).
Now I've contacted Maxtor for (hopefully) a new firmware.
Quote from: rogueUK on 31-July-06, 16:55:42
insego please use the SEARCH BUTTON
I did use the search function to find other people with similar problems. The reason I started a topic of my own was because of the text you get while joining:
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Do not hijack another persons topic. If you have a similar problem, start your own thread anyway.
Maybe in retrospect I should first have tried the solutions in other topics.

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Quote from: duffyone on 31-March-05, 11:54:15
Now... don't LOL, but there is a reason I picked the 3200+ instead of the 3000+, but I can't remember why???
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I'm a proudly owner of a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum that in one year gave me no problem until yesterday morning.
I used the computer in the night before and when I finished I turned it off and I went to bed.
Yesterday morning I found the power led blinking (like if the system was in standby), and there was no way to turn the PC on.
I even took off the battery for more than 12 hours and I left only minimal components installed:
the video card (Gainward GeForce 6800),
the psu (Antec TruePower 550W),
1 x 512 MB Ram Crucial Ballistix,
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Thanks,
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Quote from: alberto_melita on 20-August-05, 20:14:56
Hi thanks for the answers.
I do have a D-Bracket, but my problem is not that the system does not boot or does not post... my system DOES NOT POWER ON (!!!!), so d-bracket is useless!
When I plug the system power the only thing that happens is that the power led starts blinking (with the system still in soft-off), and if I press the power switch button nothing happens!
I've the bios for 7025 v1.8 and the settings where for OFF on power-loss ond pressing the button (can't rememeber if it was more than 4 sec) was meant to turn off the computer, but considering that I un-powered the pc more than once without the MB battery the settings should be factory default by now.
I went through the Windows-XP shut-down system, and i could not be an electrical problem as I always used the PC with a pretty good UPS unit.
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- MB MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum nForce3 Ultra
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- 1 x 512 Mb RAM Crucial Ballistix DDR400 optimized for MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
I left only these things inside my computer in the hope that it would turn on... it did not work. I tested each component but the MB, and they work perfectly.
Again...
Thanks for you efforts, any help will be appreciated.
Alberto.
All parts have been tested: CPU/RAM/GFX/PSU/HD/DVD, just not the MOBO ?
Checked if the MOBO is shorting in the case ?
Have you tried using the reset switch as power, on/off switch ? I've seen before when the power switch stops working (lose/bad wire busted spring) after swapping reset to power, then the system turned on. Worth a try, as sending it back to USA won't be cheap. If its over 1 year old it mite not be covered by the re-seller and or MSI. Best to check this out as law and warranty is different from country to country.
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