Normal Leopard Install, then Archive and Install.

So I'm having the BSOD issues that everyone seems to be talking about. I tried removing those library files, but I apparantly never had APE on my iMac. So I'm kinda at a loss. I think I'm going to do an archive and install as that seems to fix things. But my question is, what happens to all the space that's taken up by the original install? Is it written over by the archive and install or will there be 2 separate installs on the system?
Thanks

It will be located in the Previous System folder in that folder with the highest number. Everything in that folder which you don't want can safely be deleted.
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Installing leopard as an 'archive and install' and problems!

I have just made and archive and install of leopard on my macbook and although the programme told me the installing had been accomplished without problems, the computer could not start up. Instead of starting up it entered a sort of loop where it displayed the Mac apple and had a weel spinning for some minutes, then the screen went black as if it restarted the computer and then it went back to the mac apple on a grey/blue background and the spinning weel.
Can anybody help me with this problem? What has gone wrong and how can a save my computer!

This is just my disaster day! I finally managed to get Leopard installed, but despite the fact that I did an 'archive and install' the installation process had not kept my files intact - most of my work files have gone it seems and the Leopard did start all over keeping none of my settings at all.
I have now looked in the previous systems folder and only some files and settings are seemingly stored, but I don't know how to 'reinstall' them on my computer.
I must admit that Mac very much resembles macrisoft products in this case. What a disaster!

When Leopard won't archive and install

I thought I'd relate my experience for those of you that have not yet upgraded. When I first attempted to install Leopard on my daughter's Macbook, the installer wanted to force me to do an erase and install and did not give an explanation as to why. I assumed there was a problem with the disk, so I aborted the install and used Disk Utility to try to repair the disk, but DU could not repair the disk. Next, I restarted in target mode with the MB connected to my iMac, and used Carbon Copy Cloner (file mode - I didn't want to copy a bad block) to clone the MB system to a folder on my iMac. Next, I re-formatted the MB disk and used CCC to reinstall the clone to the MB. Now, with the disk repaired, Leopard allowed me to do the archive and install and all went well.

Well i did once on the new macbook 2.2ghz. When i cannot find the Boot Camp in Utilities, I tried to reinstall it Using restore disk 1. There 3 option to choose 1, upgrade (unable to choose) 2 archive and install (unable to choose) only Erase and Install. When i used the retail pack it let me choose all 3 but then i never proceed. I used terminal to find where is the Boot Camp discover it hidden in the recovery disk. If in that case most of us here facing same problem on different scenario. ;(

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So i was updating my ipod earlier yesterday, i kinda steal wifi from the neighbors so it was pretty weak.... i lost wifi (i think) because it stopped loading, so i turned off my ipod. And when i tried turning it on again it did the apple logo then went to a full out pink screen. Ive tried turning it back on and off a billion times, and sometimes the screen colors will change. I recently just tried restoring it like 10 times and usually itll just interenwrupt the restoring process. By the way, wh i plug it into the computer it doesnt recognize the device. I had to put it into recovery mode. Pleasehelp, this ipotd is my life. I cant take it to the apple store because its badly cracked, and ive had it for about 2 y and a half years. PLease help.

Hi-
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Does "Archive and Install" really exists on the Snow Leopard install DVD ?

Well, Mr Magoo really needs your help.
I have an iMac late 2009 edition and the Snow Leopard DVD installer discs.
Reading the little baby paper book manual that came with the discs and the iMac it says on page 54 that i can re-install Snow Leopard by choosing "Archive and Install" or "Erase and Install".
Mr Magoo just can't find that "Archive and Install" choice and have concluded that this is a very bad reprint of a manual from years long ago when it was possible to archive and install or it some joke by Apple.
Unfortunately my 90 days of phone talk to Apple has expired albeit the two year warranty under apple sometimes care program i purchased is still valid.
Help/suggestions on how i can get to do an Archive and Install with the Snow Leopard installer DVD that came with this iMac ?

Dave Sawyer wrote:
You misunderstand what Carolyn wrote. In Snow Leopard, Apple engineered the installer so that any reinstallation over an existing copy is in essence an "archival" install in the sense that it replaces all the OS files while automatically preserving the applications and user settings, just as the old "archive and install" option did, though no longer with the option to not preserve the user settings. So all installations over an existing OS are in essence "archive and install", so Apple removed the extra, now-redundant option.
They also removed the "Erase and Install" option. The only way you get a "complete fresh" installation is if you use Disk Utility to erase the drive. Otherwise the 10.6 installer will install a new set of OS files but not remove your apps and user settings.
If you want to reinstall Mac OS X 10.6 and keep your applications and user settings and data, just do a normal installation over the existing one. If you want to do a completely fresh installation, either starting completely new or restoring user data from a backup, first run Disk Utility from the Utilities menu and erase the drive.
Well, have you tried an Snow Leopard installation on top of a previously installed Snow Leopard.
I must really be an idiot in using the snow leopard installer.
I loaded the optical slot with the Snow Leopard DVD installer and after it opened up on the desk top i double clicked the install icon. That restarted my iMac.
When I launched the installer after selecting my "Language" and then going thru the customization ( for example I don't need all those foreign languages ) and then selecting the drive to carry out the installation the installation starts.
Upon completion all my third party applications were zapped and i only had the Apple applications. There was no "previous" system folder as there used to be in previous operating system installers.
So, honestly, I have no idea how you folks manage to make an Snow Leopard installation over a previously installed Snow Leopard whereby all the third party applications are still there.
Please tell me the steps i should take to make an "archival" install over top of a previously installed Snow Leopard that retains all third party applications.
After my install of Snow Leopard I had to re-install all my third party software applications which in my case are mainly midi/audio programs.

Leopard- Archive and Install

After loading Leopard I discovered that the DVD Player would lock up the computer after inserting a DVD. After long searches and phone calls I took the computer to an Apple Store and was told to reinstall Leopard using the Archive and Install option and to not install the 'Leopard Graphics Update', it worked, DVD Player now works. The unfortunate thing is I lost over 10GB in the process, given that I only have 60GB in the first place this is not good. Searching through finder I found 11.8GB in 'Previous Systems'. Do I need this and how can I get the lost storage back?
Jeff

I had to do an archive and install also. I backed up the "previous system" folder onto another hard drive just in case and removed it from the system drive. I just dropped the entire thing into the trash, emptied it and I got my lost space back. I haven't needed anything in the previous system folder, so I may junk it after another week or so just to be sure. Maybe I will split it up and copy it to a couple of DVDs just in case.
Hope this helps.

Archive and install slowing down?

When I installed Leopard I chose Archive and install after two failed Updates with BSOD, now it's working fine but sometimes I think it's not as fast and responsive as it should be.
Could archive and install be slowing it down?
Thanks

If you have a spare external hard drive you can copy the old system folder to it (or burn it to DVD) and then toss it, though I doubt it has anything to do with the old system.
Check "Activity Monitor" to see if there are any applications that are using a large amount of CPU time or percentage. Sometimes various applications will take off on using the CPU (the Finder has done it once or twice for me) and need to be relaunched.

Recover mail after archive and install

Hey there good mac people,
I recently archived and installed on my ibook g4. It was successful, my problem is that I forgot to backup all the mail I had in my osx mail app.
The previous system folder (library<mail<mail accounts<com.mac.mailaccounts<English.lproj< file, but I don't know if this will help restore or not?
Some of the mail is still on the server, but it is set to delete from the server once a week, and thus only a weeks worth at best is still on the server.
Does anybody have any suggestions?
In the future, what's the best way to back up mail?

Hello art-is-work.
I don't understand your problem. Archive and Install should have preserved all your data, unless you told it to do otherwise. Did you?
Mail stores most preferences and all account settings in ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist. Everything else, including all your messages and mailboxes, is stored within the ~/Library/Mail/ folder.
If the problem is that you told the installer to not Preserve Users and Network Settings, then Archive and Install should still have saved a copy of your entire home folder in /Previous Systems/Previous System N/Users/, where N is a number. The old Mail folder and preferences file should be there. You can just copy them to the appropriate location of your current home folder, or follow the somewhat convoluted procedure described in the following article to safely restore them:
How to get files from a previous home directory after Archive and Install (Mac OS X)
Note: For those not familiarized with the ~/ notation, it refers to the user's home folder.

Upgrade or Archive and Install option on new and almost empty HDD?

My Macbook has recently come back from repair with a new HDD fitted after the original failed. It has Tiger and iLife 6 installed plus a couple of 3rd party applications (PhotoPresenter and Onyx) but apart from the configurations for my Airport base stations there is not else on it yet. I have a home wireless network that I set up from this Macbook comprising of an Airport Extreme and an Airport Express connecting wirelessly and I don't want to risk losing my internet connection. Is it still considered to be the safer option to install Leopard using the Archive and Install option or would it be ok to choose Upgrade which looks easier to do and would take up less space on the hard drive? I also want to upgrade to iLife 8 at some point...should I do that first?

Hi 12frets56;
If you do the Upgrade and have problems, you can always do the Archive & Install later. That is part of the reason I suggest do the Upgrade first. It is fast and easy. If it works for you as it did for me you are done quickly.
I also start with a clone of my current system first that I test to be sure I can boot from it. So far I have not needed it but it is alway nice to know that you can get back to the current system just in case.
Allan

Archive and Install - what now?

I installed Leopard yesterday via Archive and Install. So far everything is working great. I have never installed a Mac OS before (recent switcher...first upgrade) and Archive and Install felt like an upgrade. Everything is exactly as it was before installing Leopard. My question is what to do with the Previous System folder that was left behind. Do I need it? Do I need to sort through every folder and subfolder to find items that weren't copied over to the new system, or is there an easier way? So far, Leopard is running fine, and I see no need to keep the Previous System folder. I had also cloned my hard drive to an external hard drive. Do I still need a Tiger backup or can I delete it? Thanks in advance for your help.

badefou,
Welcome to Apple Discussions.
If the previous system folder is not on the top level of your Macintosh HD, you probably did not actually use the "Archive and Install" installation feature.
WhatSize is a shareware tool that allows the user to quickly measure the size in bytes of a given folder and all subfolders and files within it.
I noticed that you posted this question in several other threads. If my information will not provide an answer for you, I suggest opening your very own question in this forum. That will get your question noticed better than Hijacking this thread. By the way, I am not chastising you by using that word, just using the common term for adding your question to someone else's question.
;~)

IMac PPC script problems after Leopard install

Help please:
Hardware - iMac PPC 1.25GB system memory 80GB hard disc
Was running Tiger (fully updated) OK with no problems except hard disc getting full.
Did two things - upgraded to Leopard then moved iTunes content (about 38GB) to external hard drive (with hindsight realise should have moved the music first and done a clean install). I've got the external drive partitioned with Time Machine backing up to one volume and iTunes on the other. All seems to be working OK.
PROBLEM - can't run lots of third party software which previously ran OK eg Open Office (even after reinstall), Onyx, Real Player. Getting messages such as:
"<<script>> doesn't understand the <<event earsffdr>> message (-1708)"
A search suggests this may have happened cos the hard disc got too full at one point - or maybe it was the Leopard upgrade.
I've tried repairing permissions, PRAM zap, general clean-up etc. but no joy.
Should I reinstall Tiger as an "archive and install"? Or could I try doing that with Leopard so I can keep Time Machine? Or is this an excuse to buy a shiny new iMac?
Thanks for helping a newb.

why ould you reinstall Tiger with archive and install?! that will not work well. if you try reinstalling anything it should be leopard. do an archive and install of leopard. you'll have to restart TM backups but that's the only downside.

Lost Aperture serial number after Leopard install

Installed Leopard yesterday with Archive and Install option.
Went to run Aperture today, got prompt for serial number and, unfortunately, I cannot find the paper copy to re-enter it. Last update to Aperture puts it at 1.5.6. Can the file with the serial number be found somewhere in the Previous System folder? A number of Apple products, Aperture among them, are empty folders in the Application Folder in Previous System.
My Aperture Library is in the Pictures folder of my boot disk, and plainly shows. Selecting that file does start Aperture, which then prompts for the serial number.

The updater is looking for the app in the Applications folder. It must be there, not renamed and not in a subfolder. Can you post a small picture/screen shot of your Applications folder where Aperture is?
If you aren't presented with the update automatiacally in SW Update, then that suggests that you don't have the app in the right place/or named right. This is a problem for some folks everytime there is an update - they renamed it or moved it and forgot they did that. If you download the manual update from the apple support pages, it won't update either unless it finds it in the right place - the same place the auto update is looking for it actually.
And I was referring to being able to drag a file into this directory:
/Library/Application Support/ProApps/
That is the folder that must have the right permissions. If you can't drag into it, the app won't be able to save the serial file there.

TS1394 Can't re-install Leopard. Trying to reinstall the OS because computer locks up. It is a 2008 iMac that came with Leopard. Upgraded to Snow Leopard. Tried to archive and install from original DVD that came with iMac. Installation failed, so tri

Computer locks up, so I want to reinstall the OS. I had upgraded to Snow Leopard.
Tried to do an archive and install from the DVD that came with the computer, but that failed.
Tried to do an erase and install, but the install stops somewhere near the end, 13 minutes to go. Tried several times, same result.
Can't reboot from the install disk, it just ejects the disk and I get the flashing question mark.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.

I think my hard drive is toast. When I boot in single user mode, I get the following text:
CSRHID Transition Driver: start booting in single user... will wait for window server
Then the following text appears, repeating itself over and over, except that the numbers (indicated by "xxxxxxx")
SAM Multimedia: READ or WRITE failed, SENSE_KEY = 0x03, ASC = 0x02, ASCQ = 0x00
SAM Multimedia: READ or WRITE failed, SENSE_KEY = 0x03, ASC = 0x02, ASCQ = 0x00
disk1s3: I/O error.
0[level 3] [READUID 0] [Facility com.apple.system.fs] [ErrType IO] [Err No 51] [IDType READ] [PB1kNum xxxxxxxxx] [LB1kNum 0] [FSLogMsgID xxxxxxx] [FSLogMsgOrder First]
0[Level 3] [READUID 0] [Facility com.apple.system.fs] [FSLogMsgID xxxxxxxxxx] [FSLogMsgOrder Last]
These messages keep repeating with the numbers (xxxxxxxxx) changing with each iteration.
Does this indicate a bad hard drive?
Thanks.

Can't open Virtual Machines after "Archive and Install" of Snow Leopard OS

Hi all,
Please bear with me while I provide a bit of background info for my issue:
I just installed a copy of Adobe Photoshop CS5, during which I was actually forced to archive and install my Snow Leopard because of an installation error. So, I inserted my Snow Leopard disc and let the OS X installer do its thing. I remember, somewhere along the way, an admonishment that this process may somehow corrupt any virtual machines that may be installed, but throwing caution to the wind, I went ahead anyway.
Well, turns out it did indeed corrupt my installation of Parallels 6 somehow, and now none of my VMs work. When I open Parallels, and select File -> Open, then select whichever VM I want, a screen flashes so quickly I can't see it (I assume it says something like "Opening XYZ Virtual Machine"), and then.......nothing.
Thus far, I have tried to uninstall and reinstall Parallels 6 (using the KB article that directs you to delete a bunch of files via Terminal after running the packaged uninstaller) and I deleted my VMs and restored backup copies of them from several months ago.
I'm now at a loss - any ideas what I can do to get Parallels to function again? I don't know if somehow permissions were modified, or if there are any other particulars that the reinstall of Snow Leopard may have made to cause parallels to be unable to open my VMs.
Appreciate any advice in advance!

I think I would look at if you have the latest Parallels;
clone and backup your system and files before doing anything;
boot off 2nd hard drive and run Apple First Aid + (Disk Warrior or DG3 or TechTool Pro 5).
Always be prepared to be able to restore your system to prior point, that could even mean keeping 10.6.4 around for a month until you know 10.6.5 and 3rd party software and drivers all play nice together.
Bottom line: invest in two backup sets and methods; a copy of SuperDuper or CCC; and Disk Warrior.
I've used VBox, Fusion but not Parallels, plus Windows XP Mode, VHDs and VMs under Windows Vista/7.
I'd go back to ERASE and INSTALL and then do all your updates, then start on 3rd party with main packages first (CS5 and others). Off load, save, backup everything and anything you might need first of course.
Last but actually #1: a small 30GB OS X 10.6.5 drive volume (can take the 30GB from one of your backup drive is fine) so you can run the latest DU plus other system maintenance (DVDs get old, out of date, slow to boot, can't use Finder and other programs).

Archive and Install - how to move ahead after Leopard is in...

After a long and frustrating day installing Leopard on my MacBook Pro (five months old), I finally have it up and running but don't know how I should recover settings and documents from my archived files. As per Apple's advice, I did the archive and install without preserving settings.
Actually, documents are fairly straightforward, but what about Entourage data (emails, addresses, etc.) and Firefox settings, etc. Do I need to drag the old Applications, Librart, System, and User fils (from Previous Systems folder) into the new Finder under Leopard?
Also, will applications like Photoshop, Lightroom, etc. need to be reinstalled?
Please advise.
Thanks very much.
Regards,
Tom

I have a similar problem with Leopard's archive and install. No only did I have difficulty locating photos, music, etc. but I found that I didn't have "permission" to move them from the archive. I then with through the permission process giving myself access to everything on my Macintosh partition. (I have an iMac with both Mac Tiger and Windows XP on separate partitions). Only now I can't even get the Mac part of my computer to open at all! To be continued - - -.

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