Not being able to save song file?

Question

Today I ran into a situation with Logic which has happened to me 3 - 4 times in the last 12 months..I'll be working on a song, for hours, and then I lose the ability to save the song.. I hit 'save as' command. The save window opens up, and Logic hangs.. The 'save' button is flashing, but nothing will work.. I can move other Logic windows around, (arrange page, score page, etc).. But none of them will close. The only thing I can do is force quit.. You cannot play the song either.. All you can do is force quit.. Other applications are running fine.. I ran disk utilities, everything was fine..
If I look at application manager, Logic is not hanging up.. This has happened to me a few times in the last year.. I usually just back up to one earlier version, and rebuild... This happened twice today, after opening an earlier version, it too, stopped saving after an hour or so..
I opened the last salvageable version, and exported all midi tracks one by one, and two audio files..
I then opened a new project and imported files in.. so far so good..
Has anyone else run into this problem?

Answer 1

Yes, I have exactly the same problem, and there are a lot of other users ( see topics at logicuser.de if you speak german ).
In my case it´s so often on some projects that it´s almost impossible to work.
Some say it could be a problem with external or bad harddisks. But I´m running audio on two internal brand new HDs, so I don´t believe this.
This could help sometimes :
- when it happens, immediatly delete the undo list. most of the times this gives you a "last chance" to see what you´ve done in the song, write things down, export important tracks, then try to save under a different name. But most of the times this saved version doesn´t contain the changes you made after the problem occured, even if Logic is running and seems to save the song.
- try to save the song as a template ( "Save as Template..." under "file" ). This helped some users, in my case it failed.
I have the feeling that these bugs occur when you´re working with huge audiofiles ( nothing very huge, just a few tracks around 5 minutes, something every Audiosoftware should handle with ease ) and do a lot of edits and fades. Drum editing for live drums on 12 or more tracks is almost impossible. Logic 5/6 on G4 handled projects a lot bigger than that without any problems !
Also drag and drop several huge audiofiles from the media list into the arrange window causes crashes.
Just started a very small project with 5 audio tracks of 4-7 minutes each track last week - nothing else. Even this project is hard to handle because of graphic bugs. Zooming in and out shows the song position pointer on a different position than the one I´m playing back.
I´m VERY frustrated with Logic in the moment. It´s NOT possible to work professionally anymore.
I´m sweating when I have clients in the studio : how many crashed will we experience ? will we loose edits we´ve done ?
Looks like Apple´s just focuing on people who play back apple loops. There was NO innovation since Apple bought Logic from Emagic, there are NO MORE updates, at least with bug fixes. In times of Emagic we had updates with bug fixes every few months, and we had most of the times a stable version. The last Logic update 8.0.2 is from May 2008 ! Over 1 year !
Have they stopped the development ?
When will we get an 64 version ?
I´m on a 64bit 8core system for over a year now and was so naive to think : if I bought a 64bit G5 Apple will come up with a 64bit version for Logic in a few months.
But the most annoying thing is : WHEN WILL WE GET A STABLE UPDATE that will allow us to do the most basic things for an Pro Audio application : recording and editing a few audio tracks ???
I would have switched long ago to Nuendo if there would be a convenient way to work with my EXS library that I developped over the years.
best regards,
ghanimist