Not burning at 16x

I'm having issues with my internal NEC 3550A and LG GSA-H10N. I've updated the firmware for each to the most currrent. But at 16x burn, I'm only getting up to 9x on the first 35 sec of burning then starts to drop down and settle at about 5x. I've used Maxell, Fuji, Imation, Sony, and Philips 16x DVD-R media. And all are testing at that speed.
I've tested the burn speed on these drives using Toast 8, and MBBench. My older Mac G4 had the same NEC 3550A, and it burned at a much faster rate. That's how I first noticed the slower speed on these drives.
Using Toast to test time on burning. On the older G4 it would take about 3.5 - 4 min to burn a full 4GB DVD at 16x. The burners on G4 MDD says it will take about 4 min, but actually takes about 10 min.
But ripping a full 4GB DVD, burning CD-R at 48x, and reading DVDs is all within normal parameters. And I don't think I've ever had a bad burn (maybe one) under "16x" burn option.
I've read about the drives might be set to PIO mode rather than DMA. Not sure what these are, but the explanation of the switching between modes made sense. Just wondering how this can be done on a Mac.
G4 MDD Dual 1GB, 1.5GB ram, LG DVD-RW + Superdrive Mac OS X (10.4.8) 80GB, 120GB, 2x 250GB HDs, Radeon 9000 128MB

There are so many variables with the various makers, that it just may well be a lack of native support for the brands in question, or, that the drives are somehow optimized to work faster under Windows.
I am partial to Pioneer. I've always had good luck with them, and my current DVR-109 burns consistently at 12x. I haven't flashed it, or changed the IDE cable to a 80/40 yet, but have read of good success at the 16x that it is rated for.
My DVR-110 (with Patchburn 3) in my Dual 450 Gigabit Ethernet, also is a stellar performer. I get 16x peaks, and average around 12x on most burns, Dual layer at 8x has produced no coasters.
The DVR-111 (8x DL, 16x DVD-R/+R) is supposed to be a nice device as well. I opted for the 109 (slower at 6x DL), instead, because of the lack of region encoding on the 109 (also only $29 at OWC).
I'm currently toying with the idea of putting the IDE cable in (my Sawtooth), and changing out for a Pioneer DVR-112D- 18x plus LabelFlash (Lightscribe). They are available here in Japan, but the labeling software is Japanese, and, though I can read Japanese fairly well, I'll wait till the US/EU version hits the market, and the English version of the utility is downloadable. But, I digress.....
You might (if you haven't) take a browse through the xlr8yourmac data base, and see if there are any similar user experiences with a similar Mac, or also check out what seems to be working for others.
http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso

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I just replaced the original CD-R with an LG 16X DVD-R in the G4 800 at work.
Unfortunately it's not recording at 16X, only at 8X. I don't think it's the media, as it states it can be recorded at 16X, and I burned several ones already. Toast 7 indicates that it can burn at 16X, but as soon as the disk is inserted it goes to "best" and it takes 15min to record a full 4.7GB disc.
Could the ATA 66 of the drive be holding back the speed ?
I have a ATA TEMPO 133 PCI card. Would it be recognized by the OS if I connected the disk to it ?
Thanks in advance
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Pedro,
They burn at 16X (in Theory), they only reach "up to" 16X on certain parts of the disc. It sounds like your drive needs updated firmware to recognize the actual brand of media you're trying to use. My G4 actually burns at the 16X speeds and it's my G5 that lags big time (on certain brands)because of firmware. Todays recorders have a true average of about 12X. It also may be your HDD is not pumping the data fast enough through the pipes or it can be a faulty cable as well. It can be one of several things and I'd start with the cable, check it for any punctures or small tears and make sure it's connected securely on both ends. After that make sure your HDD is in good working order, run some good utilities such as Disk Warrior, Tech Tool or Drive Genius so you can be sure your directories and structures of your disk are OK. Try running Apple's hardware test (shipped with the computer) and see if the Logic Board and everything else passes.
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I purchased some Verbatum 16x DVD-R disks that are printable. I tried to burn them with DVD Studio Pro and it only burned at 4x. I then tried to burn some files with Toast and it would only let me select 4x as my max speed.
What is the matter? Should I try another brand? Or should I take my drive to Apple for repair?
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Some manufacturers drives "don't like" certain media. Also 16X is a theoretical max write speed that is highly unlikely to happen in the real world ( sustained speed at least ).
Check for a firmware update from the manufacturer that may improve media compatability. Failing that try another brand of media ( though Verbatim is a well respected brand ).
Actually getting 16X would be like an aircraft carrier doing 45 knots, it could happen if...( the carrier )
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2. strong tail wind
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Some blank 16x DVDs will not burn in the internal DVD burner on my iBook G4.
My iBook tries to load the DVD-Rs but it spits the DVD out after 2 tries.
Any reason why
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Any ideas how to fix this.

What brand DVD-R?
I burn Verbatim DVD-R 16X at 4X all the time using a disk image and Toast (or Disk Utility). Try Verbatim. I use other brands too. In both of my "SuperDrives."
Suggest you create a disc image and then burn the DVD. File/Save As Disc Image...
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=164927
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There are variations to this process based on which OS X you are using...
Open Disk Utility (in Utilities folder in Applications folder), click on the virtual disc (maybe the .img) in the left-hand window. Click the Burn icon. A new window should drop down and your SuperDrive tray will open after clicking the Burn icon. Insert a recordable DVD. (Verbatim DVD-R preferred by me.) Click the Close button. Wait. Select a burn speed. Then click the Burn button.
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First, welcome to the discussions.
Sorry, No Firmware update to allow you to burn at 16X.
The drive you have is only capable of burning at 8X.
You will also find that for the most part when you recieve errors that it is more often than not attributed to MEDIA.
There are so many problems with the cheaper media they are to numerous to cover.
DVD is not at all like CD burning, in that the technology as well as the Optical Drives used, seem to be touchy, and require the use of good Media. This will allow you trouble free burning without errors.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
You will also find that the reason that DVD-R Media works the best, is because it is the most wirely used and recognised in both Computers and Players.
If I may suggest. There are several 16X DVD's on the market.
Take your time and look at the back of the Jewel Cases and read. You will see that the better Media will tell you that it will burn at 1X through and including 16X, if your drive is capable of handleing these speeds. I prefer Maxell 16X DVD-R Media in the individual Jewel Cases. This Media burns at the slower speeds on the older Superdrives that will only burn at 1X or 2X.
Like many others I have learned my lessons the hard way.
Cheers Don

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All of my CDs that I import and burn are at least 12 yrs old. I use Staples generic 1x-52x CD-R. Burn is set at max possible( for my Superdrive that is 16x). I have no problem importing into iTunes 6 bunchanumbers. I burn by making a playlist and clicking Burn. I have found that one CD out of the six I have tried will import and play, but will not burn. I get the error message that says it can't and will not retry.
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2 years ago, I bought a Pioneer 8x DVD/CD internal drive for my G4. The highest speed it burns at true 1 second to 1 second speed is 6x. When I select the 8x, every second that ticks off in Toast averages 2 to 5 seconds.
Fast forward to today! I just purchased and installed an NEC Model:_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A, a 16x with dual layer capabilities.
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NecFlash.
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I bought some TDK DVD+R s and they did not burn on my iMac G4 (running 10.4.6) They were 16x if that means anything. Thanx

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I bought some TDK DVD+R s and they did not burn on my iMac G4 (running 10.4.6) They were 16x if that means anything.
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