Novell Linux Small Business Suite vs Novell Small Business Suite

We are currently running Novell SBS 6, and it's getting a bit ragged, so I'm
pondering upgrade.
As the IT guy here, I have a good background in Linux as well as NOVELL, so
comfort level is about equal.
1) What are the differances between the linux based SBS and Novell-based
2) What is the projected support life of the Novell-based product? It seems
that Novell is moving towards linux, so perhaps the old DOS based product is
dying?
I am a subscriber to DeveloperNet, so I have access to that level of tool,
but I'm looking for a bit of "been there, done that" feedback.
Comments suggestions???
Thanks!
John Burton
Gibbons & Kawash CPAs
Charleston, WV
304.345.8400

> We are currently running Novell SBS 6, and it's getting a bit ragged, so I'm
> pondering upgrade.
>
> As the IT guy here, I have a good background in Linux as well as NOVELL, so
> comfort level is about equal.
>
> 1) What are the differances between the linux based SBS and Novell-based
> 2) What is the projected support life of the Novell-based product? It seems
> that Novell is moving towards linux, so perhaps the old DOS based product is
> dying?
>
> I am a subscriber to DeveloperNet, so I have access to that level of tool,
> but I'm looking for a bit of "been there, done that" feedback.
>
> Comments suggestions???
>
> Thanks!
>
> John Burton
> Gibbons & Kawash CPAs
> Charleston, WV
> 304.345.8400
>
>
John,
Avoid NLSBS9 like the plague unless you have days and days of spare time on
your hands - at least until the so-called SP2 makes its appearance.
We took the decision to go from NetWare SBS6 to Linux SBS9 - and we are
regretting it.
We admit we don't have the level of expertise you seem to have. We'd been
on NW for a few years and it was pretty-much rock solid. My boss always
said it was easy to install and didn't give you a hard time.
In the end, we had to get Tech Support in EMEA to virtually talk us through
a Groupwise upgrade over the phone. It was painful and it certainly isn't
described in any detail in the documentation (which is skimpy - though you
may not need it).
Then we dicovered that iFolder and iPrint were missing.
We are now trying to do eDirectory authentication of Samba by following
AppNote 11788 - not the fault of Samba, but it's all falling apart at the
seams again.
So now half of our IT is on NetWare and half is on Linux. Not a good place
to be.
The first version of NLSBS9 has been over-marketed and simply isn't ready
yet - certainly not for NetWare users wanting to upgrade. You will see this
same opinion voiced by others in this forum - believe it!
Regards.

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We need migrate our Novell Linux Small Business Suite ver 9.0 to new hardware, especifically IBM X3200 M3.
How to proceed to allow installing in IBM system?
Thanks for your time
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Additive licenses available for Novell Small Business Suite and Novell Linux
Small Business Suite.
Expansion Pack available for Novell Small Business Suite.
Novell Announces the availability of additive licenses for Novell Small
Business Suite 5.1, 6.0x, 6.5 and 6.6 and Novell Linux Small Business Suite
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Novell is please to provide customers who own Novell Small Business Suite
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have the media to upgrade from previous version (sic) of the suite.
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Customers who want to keep their upgrade protection current with the option
of moving to Novell Open Workgroup Suite for no additional license fees.
Customers who have installed the Novell Small Business Suite Starter Pack
6.6 may also expand beyond the five user limit by purchasing the Novell
Small Business Suite Expansion Pack.
Please see the attached spreadsheet for a complete list of part numbers for
VLA and Academic licensing.
Effective:........................................ September 11, 2006.
(Note - this is copied from PDF for this forum. I'm sorry for any typos...
tpw).

Checked it Duane and send you a reply.
Pff. I am still not hapy. Just want to buy SBS6.5 licenses. No renstall.
Pfffff
"Duane Fish" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> Roy,
>
> Check your email.
>
> - Duane
>
>
> Roy Kirpestein wrote:
>> We have the NSBS6.5 starter pack and want to expand to 40users.
>>
>> Do I need to upgrade to NSBS6.6 before I can expand? Or is it possible to
>> expand the current NSBS6.5?
>>
>>
>> "Bill Simple" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> *** Are you sure ?? ***
>>>
>>> This is Novell we are talking about you know!
>>>
>>> Ok, pushing my luck here..... NWSB should be $ 25 a user per annum !
>>>
>>> Suppose that's too silly eh?
>>>
>>> Anyone want run with this??
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tim Wohlford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Additive licenses available for Novell Small Business Suite and Novell
>>>> Linux Small Business Suite.
>>>>
>>>> Expansion Pack available for Novell Small Business Suite.
>>>>
>>>> Novell Announces the availability of additive licenses for Novell Small
>>>> Business Suite 5.1, 6.0x, 6.5 and 6.6 and Novell Linux Small Business
>>>> Suite 9 for all VLA customers worldwide.
>>>>
>>>> Novell is please to provide customers who own Novell Small Business
>>>> Suite 5.1, 6.0x, 6.5 and 6.6 and Novell Linux Small Business Suite 9
>>>> the option of adding users to their existing small business
>>>> environments.
>>>>
>>>> This offering will also allow customers who have older versions of
>>>> Novell Small Business Suite to upgrade to the latest version of the
>>>> suite, which is Novell Small Business Suite 6.6. The electronic media
>>>> kit for Novell Small Business Suite 6.6 will be available for customers
>>>> to download so that they have the media to upgrade from previous
>>>> version (sic) of the suite.
>>>>
>>>> Upgrade protection is available for Novell Small Business Suite 6.6
>>>> Customers who want to keep their upgrade protection current with the
>>>> option of moving to Novell Open Workgroup Suite for no additional
>>>> license fees.
>>>>
>>>> Customers who have installed the Novell Small Business Suite Starter
>>>> Pack 6.6 may also expand beyond the five user limit by purchasing the
>>>> Novell Small Business Suite Expansion Pack.
>>>>
>>>> Please see the attached spreadsheet for a complete list of part numbers
>>>> for VLA and Academic licensing.
>>>>
>>>> Effective:........................................ September 11, 2006.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (Note - this is copied from PDF for this forum. I'm sorry for any
>>>> typos... tpw).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

Oracle Business Intelligence EE Linux installation

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edit: some errors, poor english, u know....
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Anyone know about the Novell Open Workgroup Suite for Small Business

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/19813.html

Tim,
Yes Novell needs more commitment and win back the hearts of old Novell
supporters
like yourself and me included.
Unfortunatly, I can't see anyone from Novell let alone a VP or his boss
although I think
this would be a very good sign.
Even if a cleaner at Novell calls you its something!!!
Please post if you get a call!!!
Personally - I can live without Bordermanager, NSS and Zenworks
Netware is gone - there really is NO life left as there is no 64bit.
Lets move on and Linux is the way but lets not forget Windows & AD now rules
the world.
The new NOWS product looks good. Still a few rough edges but like you said
shows the product
had been moth balled for 18 months - still its an alternative to MS SBS.
Novell Small Business discussion group with ACTIVE support from Novell
employees much
like the MS forums would be nice.
Direct Support call costs need to come down.
Novell needs MORE distributors and offer a OEM deal for system builders
Novell need to court partners - otherwise its a dead duck
MS asks users for feedback - there was one last week on "Competition" in the
MS SBS forum.
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out and about in the country
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"Tim Wohlford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected].. .
>I was once a very loyal SBS guy -- Gold partner, etc. I'd still love to be
> one, but I remain a sadly skeptical ex-partner. I still make my living w/
> Novell products, including a new job that I took when my SBS-centric
> business failed (fair disclosure, right?). I'm also a firm believer that
> Linux needs to replace Netware.
>
> Herb points out many of the fact involved here. Let me emphasize a few:
>
> 1. No ZEN in this products. ZEN alone is a reason to keep Novell. I
> think
> that ZfD adds another $50 per user. There is supposed to be something in
> this that handles dynamic local user, which is my first concern. There is
> also no BorderManager, but most of the SBS people understand that the
> world
> has moved on from that product.
>
> 2. Based on SLES 9, not OES2. Upgrade to SLES 10 is the lure to get you
> to buy support (below).
>
> 3. With the exception of Groupwise, you can download an free equivelent
> most of it , which begs the question. If you want a 5-user freebie, then
> I'd suggest going that route, or M$ SBS if we're talking about a
> non-profit (TechSoup.org).
>
> 4. As Herb stated, there is distrust on the part of SBS installers
> towards Novell. Novell is currently run by former IBM execs. IBM
> considers 1,000 seats and $100k in annual purchases to be a small account.
> I was told directly from a Novell VP (ex-IBM) that there would never be
> another SBS last December, and while this product is labeled SBS, and came
> in response to pointed criticism at Brainshare, it is simply a NOWS-based
> product that was ready to be introduced when the SBS team was dissovled
> about 18 months ago. Novell admits that the target market for this
> product is 50-200 users, which means that Novell still doesn't want the
> 5-50 user customers. Novell has not announced any partner program which
> would take care of the 1- and 2-person shops which usually provided
> support for SBS clients, which means that they don't want small parters --
> we don't "bring value" was the phrase that the VP told me. As far as I
> can tell, there is no SBS division like there was in years past.
>
> I will totally recant everything I've said here, and written on Abend.org,
> if I get a phone call from that VP (or his boss), but I've yet to see any
> tangible evidence of changes at Novell.
>
> 5. Support is a problem. $650 per incident compares with $250 for M$
> (and
> free if it's a office-down situation). Novell has very few techs left at
> Provo, with most of the support going to the call center in India. The
> maint agreement gets you chat support and access to web support (better
> than
> Support by Goggling?). My understanding is that Novell wants to sell
> annual
> support for $80 per user per year, unless you want support for Netware, in
> which case it's a lot more. You won't get SLES 10 unless you pay for
> support. In fact, I'm wondering how patches will be handled for customers
> who don't have support agreements. Most 5-50 user shops are not used to
> paying for annual support agreements for anything but their accounting
> software, or maybe a specialized app.
>
> 6. Upgrade from SBS to this version is a problem. Forget about
> same-server
> upgrades -- this is Linux, and requires a wipe of the box, so most
> existing
> installs will only upgrade when they get a new server. In addition, no
> one
> can tell me how support agreements, based on NOWS seats, works if you've
> also go Netware-based SBS licenses.
>
> 7. The competition is very good. MS calls me at least twice a month
> asking
> if I need anything. They've sent me MCSE study kids, free copies of SBS,
> test vouchers, and free tech support. MS wants the SMB-SBS clients; after
> all, M$'s enterprise efforts started out with NT 3.51 as a Windows for
> Workgroup replacement! And, the stuff is easy to install, and runs very
> well once you get it configured. It's not at all perfect -- there are
> some
> things that I REALLY hate about M$ SBS -- but it's very good.
>
> At this point, I'll note that M$ won the battle by cherishing each small
> network as they grew up. Dell pushed IBM out of the PC market with the
> same strategy - selling to small customers until the big ones notice.
> Neither M$ or Dell have forgotten that lesson, and conversely, the losers
> have yet to learn.
>
> 8. The marketing phrase, "You can save up to 80 percent on your software
> acquisition costs by selecting Novell Open Workgroup Suite Small Business
> Edition instead of a Windows-centric environment from Microsoft" is, well,
> a
> stretch. That price includes a purchase of M$ Office Pro instead of using
> OpenOffice, using XP instead of NLD, as well as purchsing M$ Enterprise
> support (or at least the old comparisons did). Most of the SBS-sized
> customers would never dream of having a support contract w/ M$, have no
> plans for Linux desktops, and one hardly needs to buy Novell SBS to get
> OpenOffice. The truth is that a 5-user edition of M$'s SBS is $495, and
> only $50 if you have a qualifying non-profit. Those who know me know I'm
> no
> M$ shill, but I get allergic reactions to silly comparisons.
>
> Tim Wohlford
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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