NTFS vs ext3 for a Shared Partition?

Since the journaling of ext3 is disabled when it is accessed through windows, would it be better to just use NTFS on a shared partition, or does NTFS have any disadvantages as well?

I've used NTFS for sharing data between my Linux and Windows installations for years, and I've never had any problems. You'll probably want to defrag it occasionally though. I defrag my shared partition once every four months or so, if I can be bothered.
Just don't do what some new converts try to do and make your entire home folder an NTFS partition. Just mount --bind, or symlink, the shared partitions's Documents/Videos/Music/etc. folders onto their corresponding /home/user folders.
If that's what you're planning on doing.

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Dual booting /w mac mini and shared partition

I bought a mac mini a few months ago, I wanted to replace an old macbook which died.
It had osx 10.4 on it, probably a beta or early bootcamp. I had a tri-boot system with
a "shared partition", but when I've tried on my mini I get into problems.
I'd like to have at least a windows 7, and osx partition and a larger, shared partition on same drive.
On my last attempt I left the drive as single osx. Let boot camp partition it, booted to cd, installed..
After installing, and updating, windows I partitioned the drive for the "shared partition" and rebooted.
I could reboot into windows but osx would hang while booting. I had to download and re-install the system.
BTW I am using a usb cd/dvd-rw drive to boot into my windows cd
Can someone help me figure out what I did wrong or provide a howto, guide or link to get me through this?
Thanks for visiting
Geo

What year/model Mac mini, new, used? What Mac OS are you using?
Pre 10.7 you could add two OS's and an extra partition without too much problem (running rEFIt, BootLoader, etc) but 10.7 added a wrinkle to that.
With Lion and any other OS (10.7 and Windows, etc.) you actually already have a "triple boot" system with the invisible "Repair Partition" added and Apple doesn't support any more.
Here's an older post but basically the same answer except with Lion and W7 adding an exception to the rule.
People have added more partitions but you would have to do a search here or do a Yahoo/Google to find the directions for doing it on one HD.
(I've only used rEFIt and it worked fine for me, not doing it on one HD, I have a MacPro so it's easier to just use another HD)
Other options,
You can always install the Mac OS on an external HD or even have the external as your Data drive or depending on how large or how many files you want to transfer there's also the Thumb drives.
And there's also Parallels/VMWare that you can use to transfer stuff until you need to boot into Windows natively.

Shared partition creation (SAN EVA 4400) for OCR/Vote andASM on linux RHEL5

Hi all,
We are going to install database (Oracle 10g) with RAC on Linux Red Hat Enterprise 5. The storage we are using is SAN shared storage, out SAN vendor has finished to configure and present the dsk storage (500 Gb) to the 2 servers, the name of the volume group is VG_ORADATA. this volume will be used for OCR, VOting disk and ASM (database file).
Our problem is to create and configure the shared partition for the 2 servers.
Here is what i want to do, i want to create:
ocr_partition (25 Gb) : for OCR
vote_partition (25 Gb): for Voting disk
oradata_part1 (150 Gb): for database (ASM)
oradata_part2 (150 Gb): for database (ASM)
oradata_part3 (150 Gb): for database (ASM)
The problem is how to create these partiton an dto mount them for the 2 servers, what is the tools we have to use for this tasks. Can i use LVM (Logical Volume Manager) in linux for this tasks.
Thanks for the help and need your help as it's very urgent for us.
Thank you
Raitsarevo.

My thoughts.
1. Your OCR partition size is too high by several orders of magnitudes. Read the docs and size it appropriately.
2. Your Voting disk partition size is also far too large. Again read the docs and size it appropriately.
3. If you have RAC you have one and only one database (not 3)
4. ASM is not a database and requires no room on your SAN. ASM is an instance that must reside on your servers (nodes).
5. Where are you putting your flashback recovery area, archived redo logs, flashback logs, etc?
6. Where are you putting your online backup files?
7. If you have ASM throw the LVM away. It will do nothing for you other than eat CPU.

While installing Clusterware cannot see raw shared partitions

I have made 4 extended logical drives from EMC shared storage to be visible from my two nodes on 64bit windows 2003 server. During Clusterware installation while selecting the disks for OCR and Voting file, I cannot see the raw shared volumes.
The following is the output of cluvfy utility for component shared storage accessibility,
# runcluvfy.exe comp ssa -n node1,node2
Verifying shared storage accessibility
Checking shared storage accessibility...
Shared storage check failed on nodes "node2,node1".
Verification of shared storage accessibility was unsuccessful on all the nodes.
I also get exectask.exe encounter a problem and needed to close meassage aswell.
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The issue is resolved. I formatted the shared disks with NTFS file system. Then deleted the partition and recreated extended logical volumes and now the shared storage is accessible from the clusterware instalation for the selection of ocr and voting files.
#cluvfy comp ssa -n node1,node2
The above command on 64bit win2003 servers gives error. This is due to bug 6007675. Base Bug number is 4714708. So the solution is to continue with the installation and ignore the error message.
[email protected]
Sami Malik

Shared Partition Problems

Hey all -
So I've been having some issues with my shared ntfs partition on a dual boot setup ever since I created it. I have no problems until I boot into Windows, which then often detects "damage" to the partition. Windows then automatically tries to "fix" the partition, and I then discover that several files have had their contents replaced or deleted entirely. I have noted that this issue only seems to affect recently edited files. Any idea what may be causing this? I am considering changing my shared partition to some sort of FAT file system to see if I have more success there.
/etc/fstab:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information
# <file system>    <dir> <type>    <options>    <dump> <pass>
# /dev/sdb9 LABEL=Arch
UUID=b0ae0fb0-3fec-46c5-9a79-f46935dae11f / ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered    0 1
# /dev/sdb3 LABEL=LRS_ESP
UUID=E4F2-02E5    /boot/efi vfat    rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro 0 2
# /dev/sdb8 LABEL=Shared
UUID=49C8855445D787D3 /run/media/Shared ntfs-3g rw,relatime,auto    0 0
# /dev/sdb5 LABEL=Windows8_OS
UUID=5444F51E44F50410 /run/media/Windows    ntfs-3g rw,relatime,auto    0 0

JammaB wrote:Still having problems; I think that Windows may be indexing the file system, and referring to its memory of the partition instead of the partition itself--does anyone know of a solution/workaround?
This wouldn't surprise me at all. Windows is notorious for thinking that it should be the only OS on any given computer. I think this is exemplified by its use of localtime for the hardware clock, its insistence on overwriting the boot sector, and its inability to adhere to standards such as bios booting & GPT partitioning and vice versa.
The command to fully shut down a windows 8 system is reportedly what you have there in one site that I just found, but in another I found this:
shutdown \s \full \t 0
TBH, like ewaller, I have never seen this mythical beast in the wild... it kind of scares me. I was of the opinion that with windows 7 things were pretty alright for the most part, so from the little I have seen of windows 8 just kind of makes me nauseated in how much it changed. Also any operating system which, without being a joke, instructs the user to rely on the "charms bar" should not be taken seriously.
Edit: I actually don't know what this magical bar of charms does, but it rather makes me think of marshmallows in my cereal.
Edit2: Out of curiousity, it this a truly shared data partition, or are you mounting the actual system partition?
Edit3: Oh yeah, that was some excellent use of code tags there in post #4.
Last edited by WonderWoofy (2013-06-05 03:55:30)

How can I keep lion from generating .DS_Store files on windows network partitions, but not disable it for all network partitions?

How can I keep lion from generating .DS_Store files on windows network partitions, but not disable it for all network partitions? I am fimilar with changing the setting for all network partitions(defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores true), but that is undesirable when I connect my laptop to my home network. A preferable solution would be where I could control the writing of these files based on disk format (NTFS vs HFS+).

Go to MacUpdate or CNET Downloads and search for ds_store. There are numerous utilities for preventing them from being transferred to Windows systems.

Time Machine AND File Sharing: Partitioning possible?

Hi everyone,
I'm thinking about a TC setup where 2 Macs would connect to it and do regular backups using Time Machine. At the same time I'd like to use TC's hard drive for file sharing purposes. I believe that this is possible. What I don't know is:
Is it possible to partition the drive in order to set a limit to what space is available to Time Machine? If not, is there another way (ratio setting) to limit this?
Thanks
Björn

From what I've seen, the answer is no. (1) you'd have to be able to access the disk in such a manner as to partition. it does not show up in Disk Utility. Perhaps Terminal might have options. (2) As far as I've seen, there is no ratio setting. TC just backs up all Macs on the network using Leopard that have Time Machine backups set to the TC.
You can actually do what you want without changing anything. The TC HDD shows up as a network drive. Time Machine backs up until full. Files on the drive would take up space. So, until it's full, you can put shareable files on it. once it's full, you have delete backups or make space through some other method.

How can I delete a self mounting shared partition in Keychain ?

Hi,
When you accept to store username & password of a shared partition or folder in Keychain, later they are set to automount and log by themselves. How can I later delete those username & password from Keychain ?
I tried but Keychain is not easy to go through.
Regards.

Keychain Access First Aid, select the login.keychain, and the search for the keychain you want to delete. When you find it, highlight it, and hit the delete key.

Dual booting and sharing partition

Hi,
I am planning on installing Xubuntu and Arch on my laptop during the christmas break and have been reading around about how to best do this. I want to share the /home directory between these two installs to minimize duplicating files. I would like to know if there are any other folders that can be shared between two systems like Xubuntu and Arch.
Secondly, I would like to know if both Xubuntu and Arch can be installed on logical partitions within the same extended partitions.

This in only my opinion (there are many, many ways partitioning a dual-boot system), but I would personally not share /home (or any other system partition for that matter). Too much hassle (persmissions on your .dotfiles will be tricky), and not enough space savings to be worth the trouble.
Instead I would create a ‘extra’ partition and use that instead of /home for storing personal files/multimedia file in both OS’s. I would give it a label like ‘Multimedia’ or ‘Shared’ or ‘Data’ or whatever, and make this partition large enough to hold all my stuff.
Then just mount this shared partition to wherever you like in both OS’s, via /etc/fstab
Secondly)
Yes logical partitions are fine for installing (somebody correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that Linux does not care about being installed a on Primary or Logical partition). Just make sure you setup your bootloader properly.
Also the *biggest* advantage of using Logical partions is that you won’t really have a limit for the number of partitions you can create for each OS.

Formating in NTFS or ext3?

I just bought a media player and it won't recognize my Apple formatted hard drive. When I contacted support, they told me that most media players won't recognize Apple format (Wow!!!). They told me I should format in NTFS or ext3. How can this be done? Does anybody know or am I stranded?

Kappy wrote:
You can't format your computer's drive NTFS or ext3. OS X requires the drive be formatted as it currently is - Mac OS Extended, journaled.
Get yourself a different media player such as an iPod.
I would love to get an iPod, but can it be linked to my 2TB Hard Drive to stream 1080i HD movies across to my telly? Ipods are also much more expensice then a WD media player for example, but I might consider it if it can be done.

Is there a way to create a rule that sends and Auto Response for a shared mailbox?

I have a shared mailbox set up that receives emails that are sent to 3 different addresses:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
I would like to create a rule that would send an auto response when someone emails one of these addresses. However, I don't want an auto response sent to [email protected] so I can't just set up an "out of office" reply for the mailbox.
Is there a way that I can create a rule to send an automated response to 2 of the 3 addresses?
Nate

Hi
we can enable the shared mailbox in ADUC and create Outlook rules for it in Outlook to achieve it. please follow these steps:
1. In Active Directory Users and Computers, right-click the shared mailbox and click Enable Account.
2. Configure the Outlook account for the shared mailbox in Outlook.
3. Click Rules > Manage Rules & Alerts.
4. Create a rule like the following format:
Apply this rule after the message arrives
Have server reply using a specific message
Except if the subject contains specific words
Select exception(s) (if necessary) of the Outlook Rule - (“except if from people or public group“)
5. Apply the auto reply rules for this shared mailbox.
Then users can receive auto reply of the shared mailbox except the exceptions we have set when they send messages to this shared mailbox.
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How do I use VPN for file sharing?

Hi folks, hope you can help.
I need to find a method for file sharing between my company's two offices, which are not only in different countries but also use both PCs and Macs. I think setting up a VPN is the way forward.
My file server is a Mac Mini running the standard client version of OS 10.5.4, with a static IP, 217.xxx.xxx.xxx. I need the PCs and Macs to access its resources. It is set up to share its files using FTP, AFP and SMB. It is running the application iVPN Server, which I understand is a GUI that makes the built-in OS X VPN Server function available to the client edition of OS X.
I am currently overseas and can connect to the Mac Mini over VPN. The problem is that I cannot seem to access the Mac Mini's files - I don't know what to do having established the VPN connection. I was half-expecting it to show up in the Finder under Shared or something.
The Mac Mini has a local IP of 10.0.1.20, but the VPN Server is issuing an IP to all clients in the range 192.168.2.200 and beyond. Is this where I'm going wrong?
Should the Mac Mini VPN Server also connect to itself, using VPN, as a client?
I'm really stuck, all help is very much appreciated. Thank you!

Thanks for prompt reply Topher..
I am familiar with the Connect to Server window, but I am not sure which IP I should be using. Assuming no VPN connection for the moment, and assuming I'm on a remote network, I can connect to the User's documents folder on the Mac Mini already by typing afp://[username:password]@[static WAN ip]/Documents
However, I need to ensure that SMB shares work (I know they work when I'm on the local network). So I type smb://[username:password]@[static WAN ip]/Documents but this fails to connect to the User's Documents folder.
To make the SMB shares work I think I have to connect using VPN. So I connect to the Mac Mini via VPN, and my laptop is issued a VPN IP of 192.168.2.200. Of course my laptop also has an IP from my local network. Do I need to rearrange my network order in System Preferences?
So I'm now connected via VPN. However to view the Mac Mini's files, surely it also needs to have an IP issued by the VPN Server? But the Mac Mini is the VPN server. So should I go into its System Preferences and set up a VPN connection to itself?
Now back on the laptop and I want to browse User's Documents folder on the Mac Mini using SMB. I go Connect to Server, and I guess I would type smb://[username:password]@[Mac Mini's VPN IP]/Documents
Am I on the right track? Thanks again...

Is it possible to be connected with a 3G modem for internet access and a WiFi router for printer sharing at the same time?

For our only internet access we have a 3G wireless modem. I have since purchased a WiFi printer and router to connect all the comptuters to in the house. The PCs have no problem with using both the 3G connection and the WiFi signal at the same time to print, however, the MacBook Pro will not connect to the 3G network and the router, it will drop the internet access from the modem and attempt to connect via WiFi (which has no internet access). Is there a solution that is available to remedy this? I attempted to create an adhoc printer network, however, the macbooks again will not print off of this, only the PCs. And I'm getting a bit frustrated overall with this.

The 3G wireless modem is on one of the PC's correct?
Why don't you pass the Internet through the Ethernet port to the router via Cat5 cable, then have that transmit a Wifi signal that everything else can use, then connect the printer to the router for print sharing?
You would have to turn off the wifi on the comptuer with the 3G modem as it's physically connected to the router and can't connect to the other machines as they are all connected to the router for sharing.
The Mac has the ability to pass, Internet Sharing in the System Preferences.
Do you have software for the Mac to run the 3G modem?

Having trouble setting up home network for home sharing

Hi there, I'm new the idea of home sharing. What i want to do is watch the movies that i have on my iMac on my iPad. So sort of like wireless streaming.
I see that Home sharing on iTunes allows you to view videos stored on your iMac on another device like the iPad etc.
I've already setup Home sharing accounts and looged in on iTunes on both my iMac and iPad.
The problem is being on the same Wi-Fi network. I don't understand what this means.
I regualrly use Internet sharing to share my Macs internet connection with my iPad over WiFi.
But I'm not sure what setting I should use for home sharing to work to watch videos from iMac on iPad
On my iMac under Sharing there's a whole bunch of options DVD or CD sharing, File Sharing, Printer Sharing etc.
The only box i have checked is Internet Sharing..
What to i have to do to get the iMac and iPad sharing video over WiFi through home sharing??

In your configuration you have inadvertently created a different subnet for the wireless iMac G5. To remedy this, configure the AirPort Express so that the option to distribute IP addresses is DISABLED.

Why is Apple TV showing the same computer multiple times for Home Sharing?

Why is my Apple TV showing the same computer multiple times for Home Sharing? Also have connectivity issues. Sometimes will lose signal.
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I recently updated to Yosemite and never had this issue before.

I'm not 100% sure of the ins and outs, but it's some sort of known issue between Yosemite, Airport and wifi. All you can do is wait for a fix and keep restarting your equipment as and when needed, unless you have the ability to connect your Mac via ethernet.

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