NTSC monitor as second monitor??

INTEL Tower, dual.
I'm running a Cinema display, and another 16:9 LCD display. Is there any way I can use a SONY NTSC monitor as my second display coming out of the DVI? Replacing the 2nd LCD of course.
And without having to reduce my Cinema display to a VGA resolution?
All ears,
Ben

One piece of information was unclear based on your wording so i will assume that you DO have a dual DVI graphics card in the tower. If this assumption is incorrect, just let me know.
Steps: -Attach both monitors into their separate DVI ports in the graphics card on your computer.
-Go to System Preferences>Displays.
-Click Detect Displays.
-Go to arrangement and uncheck the mirror displays box.
-Arrange them however you would like; the primary display will be fixed in the middle and the secondary display will be free to move anywhere around the primary display.
That should do it!
Any questions?

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