NTSC monitor looks "buzzy"

Hi All I just got a Blackmagic Intensity Pro and a JVC 15" production monitor. I got everything hooked up and I was surprised that the picture looked "buzzy"like I'm looking at my video through a filter of dots moving up the screen. Granted I'm running s-video into the monitor so I wasn't expecting great quality but the dots are really distracting. I can get a component video card for my monitor, I assume that would be better picture quality but would the dots still be an issue? Hopefully that's not how the monitor is and it's just the s-video input. Any thoughts?
Thanks

it sounds like you're getting line interference... it could be as simple as replacing the s-video cable that you're using, or possibly it's ground noise from where your monitor is plugged in. Even using an s-video cable, your signal shouldn't be substantially worse than bnc or an f-connector. Try the simple things first. and as far as the component connection, that's always going to look better, but it doesn't sound like you're getting a normal signal to begin with.

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http://www.smmlv.com/testproject/
Above is a link to a layered photoshop file that has a USA map and over a dozen network overlays used in a section of our video. I animate each layer on sepeartely in the video and have noticed a major problem recently, the color of the art does not hold true to placement. I created the art originally in Illustrator and then converted the file to Photoshop at 640x480, 72dpi. This has always worked perfectly in the past to display and animated artwork in FCP.
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