NTSC PAL editing question

I have a new accessory for my camera which does not allow me to shoot in PAL ( the manufacturer is working to resolve this ). I'm making a short film on my DSLR for the web and have already shot footage in PAL. What kind of issues will I face if I shoot more footage in NTSC and try to bring the two together ? Thanks.

The frame rates won't match and the footage that doesn't match the sequence will be stuttery. Don't do it...mixing frame rates is a no no in FCP. Shoot all one frame rate, and convert later with Compressor.
Shane

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On my vacation I took a lot of video clips with my digital camera, and made them into a movie. However, some of the people I want to send a movie to are in Europe/Africa, and need to view it in PAL format. When I made the movie, I did it in NTSC, format. When I transfer to iDVD, do I need to change the format in iMovie or in iDVD? If I have to do it in iMovie, do I have to completely redo the whole thing? Or is there a way to just convert the present NTSC version to the PAL version? If so, how? (I solved by lack of hard drive space by getting a new hard drive placed in my Power Mac-now have 100GB).

Hi dianeh,
most many/all dvdplayers over here are able to
read/playback NTSC dvds... no problem at all...
second:
export whole project as QT dv stream (1h = 13GB)...
import that into JES Deinterlacer, for free
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jeschot/home.html
choose conversion NTSC>PAL
another 13Gig per hour....
import THAT into iDVD
burn PAL version.......
hope I could be helpful
Tank you-I'll give it a try!!

NTSC - PAL colors conversion for betacam

I need to get a video file that is NTSC (no compression 8bit) into PAL (no compression 8bit) to edit it in Final cut pro 5.1.4 and to put titles from Motion, to finally put it on a betacam tape. To be shure that the conversion (NTSC-PAL) is well done, I gave the NTSC file to a professionel conversion compagny. (I tried to do it myself with compressor and with the plug-in natress, but was not completly satisfied with the result).
Now my problem is that the conversion company didn't compensate the modification of colors during the conversion. So now I have a file in pal (no compression 8bit) but the colors are lighter then the original file in NTSC.
Can someone tip me on a way to modify the colors in Final cut pro of my file in PAL? I know how to use most of the filters, but I don't now much about doing it professionally. I was hoping that there could be a filter or a plugin that is made for my kind of problem, and I'm afraid of making a mistake because I never prepaired a file for a betacam tape before. Do I have to be carefull with the percentage of black or of white? Do I have to work in RGB or YUV?
My second question is: the video PAL that was converted from NTSC has lines where there is quick movement when I look at it in Final cut pro or Quicktime. (the original NTSC file didn't have them) Should I use a filter to desinterlace it or will these lines disapear any way on the betcam tape? But I'm puting titles with Motion, so those titles don't have lines... How will they mix with the video?
Thanks for your help
Louie

Hi mish,
that is such a .. <searching correct english word> hillarious (?) idea, I give you a star for that ;-)))
changing some flags on a ready-made dvd... wow! nice try...- but as Fred said, NTSC<<>>PAL conversions are no trivial tasks... you run into many problems, e.g. where do you get the additonal 5 frames per second you need for a transfer from PAL to NTSC? how to make the audio fit to these new pictures? and, I HAVE to do this silly joke: NTSC has a very different color concept (Never The Same Color) then PAL.. and for sure a different res...
the name is irritating, but all mighty JES Deinterlacer is doing a fantastic job in converting video standards (ok, for a free software solution...) give that a try!

NTSC & PAL in one sequence?

Does anyone know if I can I can mix and match my PAL & NTSC footage within one sequence? Thanks.

Hello Pumelke,
you can probably do that (I never tried), but I wouldn't recommend it ... the output will be terrible.
My advice would be to convert the PAL footage to NTSC and edit in an NTSC timeline - for two reasons:
1. converting from PAL to NTSC - IMHO - looks a bit better than the other way around
2. if your final product is a DVD (guessing here, obviously) it will be playable almost anywhere: PAL players accept NTSC discs, whereas the opposite will probably not work.
for standard conversions have a look at JES Deinterlacer (http://www.xs4all.nl/~jeschot/home.html). It does a very good job and is freeware
hope this helps
mish

Apple TV/FM Card NTSC - PAL switch?

G'day,
Long shot I know... but after opening my TAM on the weekend, and examining the TV/FM tuner card, I saw it was a Philips brand card. So I wrote to Philips Australia to see if they happened to have any laying around.
No, they said, but - some of their TV tuner cards were "switchable" between formats... I was told.
I've put the TAM back together again now, and would rather not open it back up for nothing...
Can anyone out there shed light on this? Apple only have 1 reference number for the TV/FM card - they don't distinguish between regions - NTSC, PAL, or SECAM. Could this be because they just have to flick a switch on the card to tell it which zone it's in???
I do realise that the cards also have different connectors... (NTSC has screw-on antenna connectors, whereas PAL and (I think) SECAM have just slide-on ones) But is that all the difference? and you just flick a switch somewhere for the region?
Cheers
cosmic

The video input standard is selected in the Apple Video Player program, so there's no need for different verions of the TV or TV/FM card. The correct video input standard (NTSC, PAL, or SECAM) for your region is pre-set, according to the region version of the Apple OS that was installed. To change the setting, select "Preferences" within the Apple Video Player program. In addition to the video input standard, you'll find settings for movie compression and the remote control. An adapter is required to change the TV/FM card's coaxial "F" type connector to a different type. Here is the User Manual for the TV/FM card. It should provide you with answers to most questions that you might have.
Incidentally, optional Apple input/expansion cards (like the TV/FM card) or specific components found on these cards are typically manufactured by well-known, third-party semiconductor companies, but the cards are considered "Apple" products. As such, third-party companies (like Philips) won't stock these products. For example, Motorola made many of Apple's PowerPC processor chips, but they never stocked/sold the motherboards on which these processors were soldered.

Used to, but now can't detect a NTSC/PAL external monitor.

This has come up in this forum as well as others in the past. Here is the syndrome:
1. iBook (or other) is hooked up to an external NTSC/PAL monitor (in my case a Sumsung LCD TV) via the mini-VGA/S-Video out.
2. Works perfectly for some period of time, days to years, as far as I've seen people post.
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HDV NTSC/PAL machine with HDMI output ???????????? To hire????

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I have a sony HC7 buts its PAL....I also have access to couple of bigger sony cameras that play Ntsc/Pal but dont have HDMI to access the full HDV to capture it using Pro Rez via my Blachmagic card/HDMI////....
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Thanks for your reply....
NO the material is in NTSC and that is what i want to keep it in for NTSC DVD release....Its just that the camera i have is PAL....
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When opening a Cap 2 file that already has slides and
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G4 with OS X 10.4.11 and DVD's in various formats (NTSC, PAL, SECAM).

Can a G4 AGP Graphics “Sawtooth” running OS X 10.4.11 Tiger play DVD's in the various regional formats (such as NTSC, PAL, and SECAM) an unlimited number of times, or is there a limit to how often the capability to play a particular format can be switched to the capability to play a different one?

Using an application such as VLC should optimize format playability. It may also help with the region code issue. The "number of times" isn't to do with the DVD format, it has to do with region codes set into the DVD by the media distributors. You can change that 5 times and then the DVD player is locked in forever. Try VLC and it may help with both the format playback and maybe get around the region code issue (disable Apple's own automatic DVD Player activation).
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1. Is there anything I can do NOW to get this first set of videos edited / produced on my current laptop?   I would be happy to import as lower quality if necessary.
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2. What configuration wish list can you recommend for either a Dell laptop or desktop?   I will be editing ~40 horse sale videos per month and posting them to YouTube or producing DVDs to mail to prospective buyers.
I have just the ARTICLE for that "wishlist." Harm Millaard is the "Hardware Guru," on the PrPro forum. He gives a lot of great info. Now, it's pretty much geared for the "ultimate" NLE machine, but he does give the reasons, so one can "tone it down" to suit their budget and their needs.
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Single Edition questions!

Hi there,
I need an updated, quick and precise answers for these Single Edition questions...!
(1) For what I got until now Single Edition do not allow clients to publish a store like a bookstall of magazines. Is that right?
(2) That said, every app built and sent to App Store is "unique" and has no physical connection with other apps built and sent later. Right?
(3) Even though having Creative Cloud and being able to publish unlimited Folios... There is no way we can do a bookstall??
(4) Even using Html5 resources?
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1) Correct
2) Correct
3) Correct
4) Correct
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Check out: http://www.adobe.com/products/digital-publishing-suite-pro/faq.html
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How to edit together NTSC, PAL, and Mpeg Formats

for this Museum installation that I am compiling I have to get footage from a variety of sources and media, mostly VHS and DVD. The final output would be as a Mpeg2 to be played on a server. What is the best compression to use for editing? DVpal, was my first guess, but then I also have some NTSC material which would have to be edited together with PAL stuff. How do I convert one to the other. Should I use an uncompressed format for quality, or edit in the Mpeg2 format I hope to export.
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Peter

If your final output will be in PAL then it would likely be best to edit using DV-PAL as was your first guess, especially as most of your footage will be coming from low resolution sources anyway. Of course, higher quality will always be better, but if its not for projection and/or broadcast then the relatively lower quality of DV or DV50 woud be ample.
For capture from VHS you would definately benefit if you could run it through a TBC (timebase corrector), see if you can get hold of one.
For converting NTSC to PAL you can go with a cheap convertor (you'll get a cheap looking conversion) or you could just render it out from FCP (you'll have long render times and a cheap looking conversion) ... you could use Compressor, which would get you a much better conversion, but if you have any kind of budget, then invest in Graeme Natress's very affordable Standards Converter plugins - they'll give you top quality conversions that would give a very expensive hardware based converter a run for its money ... and they render faster than Apple's bulit-in conversion too.
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NTSC vs. PAL: asset question

Hoping this will be a trivial question for someone, since my DSP 4 documentation doesn't seem to have much to say about it...
I'm planning to produce a series of DVDs whose content will consist of a large number of video assets (2000+). Currently, these assets are in NTSC MPEG-2 format, with corresponding audio assets in either AC3 or AIFF. My question is: what do I need to do in order to produce a complimentary series of PAL DVDs with this content, given that DSP doesn't appear capable of importing NTSC video assets into PAL projects directly?
Now that I'm on an Intel-based machine, I've sent in my upgrade fee for the latest version of Final Cut Studio (which of course includes DSP), so I'll have that at my disposal. Does this software provide a batch-friendly means for me to do what I'm attempting, or do I need additional tools?
TIA for any advice.
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

You will need to convert NTSC assets to PAL assets to do it properly (including menus). Compressor does conversion and there is also other software, such as www.Nattress.com, which does conversion.
The quickest (but may not be best) is to run the assets in bulk through Compressor (but this will also depend on whether you have the Final Cut files still).
2,000 video files is daunting, so try to stay as organized as possible
Also as an aside, more people who use PAL (ex-U.S.) have the ability to play NTSC as compared to the U.S. which is more NTSC centric, so you may want to keep that in mind depending on the project, the audience and whether you will need a PAL version.

PAL to NTSC DVD compression questions

Ok,
I have recently finished a dvd in PAL format with about 4.5GB total video once compressed. Now I need to get this into an NTSC version. Is it possible to use Compressor 2 to convert the DVD compressed clips/audio [the ones ready for PAL DVD] into NTSC format ready to build my project in DVDSP? Or do I need my original quicktime clips in PAL format and change them to NTSC in Compressor 2 then make them into NTSC DVD ready clips? Also what is the best setting for NTSC DVD in compressor that will be ok for the size of my final version [4.5GB]. Sorry about these questions but I made the PAl version with compressor 1 and there was far less settings to worry about.
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