NTSC Project Export to PAL?

I have a project that I edited in Premiere and a DVD project designed in Encore CS6 - all in NTSC. A client in the UK needs a copy in PAL. What is the best way to approach this? Encore does not allow me to change the standard in Settings or Prefs. The DVD project is made up of mostly Dynamically linked Premiere sequences, shot and edited in NTSC

moccamaximum wrote:
If your DVD is not mulitlingual (Because FLV can have no multiple audiotracks) and you only want to show the final product to your client, without the requirement that it has absolutely to be played back in a 10+ years old PAL-only Player, you could always go for Webexport(Flash).
If you have never tried it before: at best quality it pretty much is indistinguishable from the real deal.
Flash excport is not a DVD and is not supported on APple devices either so not a great answer. Likewise, this will not play on any DVD players either.
Alex DeJesus wrote:
Sorry mocca, this is WAY over my head. I did not realize I needed PAL menus, only PAL video assets. I thought that if I created an Adobe project in PAL that Encore would encode the menus accordingly.
Neil, I am able to export PAL from an NTSC sequence in Premiere. Or I can create a PAL sequence and cut and paste from the NTSC sequence already edited - without timeline markers, though. This is pretty frustrating stuff to keep track of. And I have no idea it will playback in England.
Hi Alex.
I understand your pain, believe me - and if your client is specifically asking for PAL, then that is what you have to deliver.
Exporting a PAL asset from an NTSC sequence is indeed possible in PPro, but be very very careful as the frame rate differs from the NTSC, and you will have to check playback very carefully to make sure you are not just dropping frames which could result in twitchy playback. (NTSC is 30fps, PAL is 25 - all sorts of room for catastrophe there)
There are settings in the render dialogue that can help with scaling (your footage will be scaled as well) and different render frame rates compared to sequence frame rates.
Just tick the "Maximum render quality" and "Maximum depth" options & cross fingers & toes.
Personally I have had much more success with After Effects than PPro for this type of work - the thing to remember in AE conversions is to be absolutely sure ytou set the option in t he render dialogue to "composition length" instead of "Whole timeline" or whatever it is called (memory fails me right now) or else your run time will change. To explain what I mean, we recently had to create a title where there were 5 film clips, one in NTSC, 2 in PAL and 2 more in 4 and 12 fps stop-frame animations. Without the "composition length" option ticked the thing simply ran out a hell of a lot faster than it should have done but with that option checked, AE just created new frames and the results were great.
Menus also have PAL resolution of course, as well as the different PAR (Pixel Aspect Ratio) earlier discussed. Scaling these will ruin text in mnore cases than not & t he best approach is to rebuild all menus from scratch - it is actually quite simples in PhotoShop - just open your original NTSC screen, create a new PAL menu template from the presets given and then (after turning off SPHL layers) merge or flatten the original NTSC screen, and then drag the background onto the blank PAL menu, hit CTRL-T (make it a scalable object) and resize to fit your new screen - you may well need to fill in the blanks - and then just drop your button layers in & tweak.
Final option is to check with client & ask them why they need PAL - which I have to congfess raises one question in my mind:
WHen you shot the footage, had you been asked to supply NTSC or PAL originally? If they asked for NTSC, then you should charge them for the reworking to PAL.
However, if they wanted just PAL in the first place then you have to bite the bullet on this one.

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Is there a way to convert an existing NTSC project to a PAL project?

I searched the Encore CS3 manual and all four Encore forums before starting this thread. Apologies if I missed the answer.
In Encore CS3, apparently one is only allowed to specify NTSC or PAL when starting a new project. If I try File->Project Settings on an existing project, I can change the Authoring Mode between DVD and Blu-ray, but the Television Standard edit box is grayed out and cannot be changed.
I often need to release projects in both NTSC and PAL standards, and it is a royal PITA to have to start a new PAL project, import the exact same assets as for my NTSC project, then rebuild all my menus, buttons, timelines, chapters, etc.
Can the conversion be done? Am I missing an obvious method? If not, why is it that the same assets can only be bound to a given standard when importing?

I understand your concern. I don't know for sure yet myself as the client had yet to mail the discs to Italy last time I talked to them.
However, I would check to see if the people on the forum are saying they won't work because they made a mistake in changing the parameters in ifoedit or if everything was correct and it still didn't play. Also, once you make the discs, even if everything is correct, they certainly won't play in American DVD players that aren't multi-region.
Also, ifoedit is a really simple free program you can download. If you google it you should be able to find it quickly.
From the quick look at the link I gave you, it looked like a rudimentary explanation of how to do it. I need to find for you the web site I found when I did this a couple months ago. I know I saved the info somewhere on my hard drive. I will try to find it later tonight after my kids go to sleep, ha!
Yes, the files you need to change are the ones that are created when you export to folder in Encore. The .VOBs and the .IFO extensioned files (that you open and edit in the program). After you change the IFO files, you can take those files including the .VOBs into a dvd burning program like nero or roxio and burn a dvd-video (not data).
If you have to change the language of the menus and all that, than you'll have to re-author the dvd in encore anyway you may as well do it through encore.

NTSC project modified to PAL project is this possible?

I have a project that i am working with that has 3 menus, 7 tracks & 17 scripts.
there are two DVD's in the "set" each one is the same... just different video tracks... essentially its a 2 disc set that i need one version of NTSC (done) and one PAL version.
I have created the NTSC project first, but before I create the PAL versions i wanted to know if anyone had come up with a way of just replacing the project assets & video assets to PAL?
I have tried removing all the video off all the tracks and deleting them from the project (this works with no menus & no scripts to convert to PAL) Next I figured it was the menus so I changed out the video assets of the menus and transitions to PAL.mov's but they are lower quality and the project still will not switch to PAL.
any ideas before i recreate all of those scripts and menus in PAL?
as a side note just to make sure... Dolby files do not matter right? I dont think i need to make PAL versions of audio.. i couldnt find a way to do it anyway... just wanted to double check that thought.
Thank you.
-bryan

if anyone is wondering... the answer is no... rebuild it from scratch.

How to convert my NTSC project to PAL?

Hi! I'd like know how i can convert my ntsc project into PAL.
I need finish a DVD for my client take to ANGOLA and there is PAL system.It is possible? My Encore is 2.0.
Or It is possible put my NTSC movie into PAL project and let encore transcode the movie? Thank you very much and sorry my english.

You have several options.
1 - Create a new PAL project in Premiere Pro. Capture your footage in the usual manner, and as soon as it is in the project, hit the ENTER key to render it.
2 - Create an NTSC project in Premiere Pro, capture to NTSC DV footage, and export it out again.
Close project.
Create new PAL project, import the NTSC clip & then interpret/conform the footage to the project settings.
3 - Set up an NTSC project, capture footage, export to PAL DV or MPEG-2 from Premiere.
4 - Use TMPGEnc Xpress 4 - it's standards conversion is very good.
5 - Use ProCoder, as Ruud suggests
6 - Use CCE SP if you have it.
I'd try as many different ways as you can, and view the lot to see what looks the best.

Importing a NTSC iMovie to a PAL iDVD Project

For some reason my iMovie is in NTSC format even though I am in the Uk and operate PAL. If I import to iDVD and burn in PAL is that going to work? And also, how do I change an iMovie project from NTSC to PAL. It is supposed to do it automatically based on what the DV camera is but mine clearly did not do this?

there are 3 reasons, why iM sets a specific video
standard:
* you have set in iM's prefs to 30
frames-per-second.. which is a little cryptic for
"NTSC"; PAL = 25fps...
* you've imported from a NTSCcamcoder... iM sets
automatically the standard, because it can handle
both...
* you've imported as clip_01 some downloaded file
which is NTSC... same as with camcorder-imports...
same with iDVD, you can set the video standard
manually ... or let the first file set it...
I wouldn't "switch" within the workflow... NTSC dvds
are mostly playbacked on European DVDstandalones&TVs
(some older lose audio and/or color...)
The Quicktime engine has a NTSC<<>>PAL converter
included, but my experiences with conversion (I did
just NTSC footage to a PAL project) was, that the
free JES
Deinterlacer does a better job... workflow:
finish editing in iM/Export as QT Full Quality/Import
to JESD/convert/Import new, converted file into iDVD
(which handles both standards too)...
and in case, your version of iM has some "hickup",
trash the imovie.plist... that will "reset" the
app....
helpful?
I was having lots of problems with the conversion of an Imovie6 NTSC to Pal and followed all the instructions in Imovie to convert to QT etc. finally got a girl at Apple and she moved one over to IDVD after changing the Preferences and and the Info to Pal and she actually burned a disc while I was on the line, just ignore the notice that comes up to that you are burning a Ntsc to a Pal disc and continue and it shows up on the later as a Pal disc. I think that was how I did them under IDVD 4 and 5.
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Producing NTSC dvd's from PAL projects

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I'm in Australia (PAL) but would like to produce dvd's that can be viewed in the USA.
If I produce a NTSC version of my PAL filmed project in idvd, will it work in NTSC dvd players in the USA?

when you set iDVD to NTSC/29.97 and import a PAL iMovie, iDVD will convert your material and creates a NTSC videoDVD ...
... my experience, going vice versa, NTSC >>PAL, told me, that the underlying QTengine doesn't show a good result.. so, the long way for a probably better result is:
export your iM as 'QT/Full Quality' ..
download and use for free JES Deinterlacer
open your iMexport, choose 'Project, conversion' and let JESDI do the conversion..
drop THAT new file into a NTSC iDVD project..

NTSC Project to PAL - Different than previous posting

I have a NTSC project in Encore 2.0. I rendered videos for it in NTSC and PAL from Premier.
My problem that I don't want to rebuild my entire DVD project in Encore just to link the PAL videos.
But, I haven't seen a way to export the project or save it as a PAL project.
Any tips or clues? I want the PAL project to be just like the NTSC project except to use the PAL clips instead of NTSC.
Chuck

Chuck,
With all due respect, did you read/understand BJ's post just above yours?
He describes what issues you will encounter with Encore or any software, and why, even if you could convert the video on the fly, the menus would need to be re-done from scratch.
Finally, no. There is no project setting you can change. You must start a new project. If you dig around in the project folder of the NTSC project, you can probably decipher which are the menu files. Maybe you can salvage something from that.
Best of luck,
Jeff

DV-NTSC Project to PAL DVD

Here is what I intend to do:
Create a copy of the project file project_pal.fcp
In project_pal.fcp change easy setting to DV-PAL
Export sequences to quicktime
Use compressor to convert to DVD ready files
Author DVD w/ DVDSP
My questions are:
Where in here to I need to change any additional setting to make the DVD PAL ready? Is there anything in compressor or DVDSP I need to change or will exporting from a PAL project get that done?
Thanks!

Converting from NTSC to PAL is not a trivial bit of transcoding. There are disparate frame rates as well as different frame sizes. You can't just drop in a NTSC file in a PAL timeline and get good results.
There are three good ways to do it.
1. Purchase and use Graeme Nattress's Standards Convert plug in to convert the NTSC timeline to PAL on export within FCP.
or
2. Use Compressor's Advanced features to convert the exported NTSC file to PAL.
or
3. Take the file to a post house that can do a hardware based standard conversion.
Once you have the file in a PAL format, author a PAL disk and burn it within DVDSP.
Of course, the disk should be region free.
x

Will DVD studio pro convert PAL for an NTSC project

Greetings. I am trying to create NTSC showreels from material that was filmed and captured as PAL. Will importing the PAL asset into an NTSC DVD-SP project mean that it will then encode an NTSC MPEG. Or should I convert the original movie in FCP? I am looking for the solution that requires the least time, as these showreel are needed urgently in the states.
The reason I ask is that as a result of technical inexperience of my colleauges a whole hard drive of PAL assets has been sent to the states in order to make showreels for the production companies directors. This included master Showreel Projects which are in PAL. I am not sure of the best way to unf*£$k the situation but hoped it would be as simple as changing the Disc setting to NTSC. Thanks so much for your help. Also If you know of any sites which could help clear this up with information or software...
Sorry I realise this is a fundamental question
Thanks again
Peter Stenhouse

I'm afraid not. It may even be the case that if you have your project set to NTSC it won't import PAL assets (We do all our encoding outside of DVD-SP and if you try and import PAL m2v's into NTSC project it won't do it).
The PAL assets will need to be converted either professionally by a facilities house which time base correctors and all those doodads or you could try using something like Graeme Nattress's convertor for FCP
http://www.nattress.com/standardsConversion.htm
never used them but heard they bare good (and not too expensive) though time consuming
It may be that you can do it directly in FCP but I seem to remember somewhere that it wasn't very satisfactory. At least you have the advantage that you have PAL resolution going to NTSC res and not the other way (which we have to deal with all the time in the UK - not hugely satisfactory)
Hope this helps
Steve Kirkham

NTSC project - PAL DVD

Hello,
I'm editing a project in NTSC (since I shot in NTSC), but my client is European and wants the final project on a PAL DVD. How can I output the project to PAL?
Do I convert it first in Final Cut (how is this done?) or does transfering the project to iDVD in PAL do the trick? It needs to be highest possible quality.
Thank you for suggestions and helpful 'how tos.'

on the basis of your need for highest quality, two options:
1- send a tape to a facility house who will standards convert the mataerial to a PAL tape which you can then import in a PAL sequence
2- purchase Nattress which is a software standards converter and a FCP plug-in,
it costs $100 and worth every cent
you could use Compressor, but for quality use Natress as it is a very high quality dedicated Standards Converter
once you have edited in a PAL sequence, compress to m2v and AC3 and import into DVDSP and author the DVD
all you need to know is on the web site:
http://www.nattress.com/Products/standardsconversion/standardsconversion.htm

Error importing into DVD Studio-"cannot import PAL asset into NTSC project"

I get this message after exporting from FCP the following in Quicktime:
HDV-1080i60 or HDV-1080i50
Are these PAL formats? If so, how do I export HDV in NTSC?
Many thanks

i60 is NTSC and i50 is PAL
You may want to just export them as 10 bit uncompressed (or 8 bit if less room) and encode in Compressor (quicker than HDV) or export as HDV and compress in Compressor or send from FCP to Compressor.
Exporting as uncompressed gives good results and seems to be the quickest on encodes

Burn a PAL dvd from ntsc project

I have an NTSC project with all ntsc media and would like to burn a PAL dvd. what is the easiest way to do so. I converted the media to pal and was hoping to do a 'save as' on the dvdsp project and just change it to PAL but it won't except the media.
thanks
andy
dvdsp 4, 2.7 dual g5.

It makes sense that a PAL DVD project wouldn't accept media that's already compressed to MPEG2 in NTSC format. When the DVD is built, all it does is multiplex the audio/video. It doesn't change the compression or frame rate or size.
You'd probably need to recompress the original edited source video in Compressor to PAL format. Once you select a preset in Compressor, you need to change the Video Format from Automatic to PAL. Select the preset and in the Inspector, click the Encoder section, then the Video Format tab. Then you'll see the Video Format popup menu where you can change it to PAL.
One other thing to keep in mind: It might be a waste of time to convert it to PAL since most PAL DVD players can convert NTSC format DVDs on the fly during playback. I send NTSC DVDs to Hungary all the time and they have no trouble playing them with typical consumer PAL DVD players.

Importing PAL clips into an NTSC project

Hi guys,
I'm new to FCP... I'm wondering if it's possible to import a PAL clip into an NTSC project and will FCP do the render automatically and transfer it to NTSC?
If not can someone recommend the best way to convert such a clip? I've come across the JES Deinterlacer, but am wondering if there might be something better than that?
Thanks in advance. Chaim

take a look at graeme nattress' standards converter.
http://www.nattress.com/standardsConversion.htm
good luck.

Premiere Elements 7: share/export DV-PAL in FLV/QT/WMV, black bars on top/bottom

During export (step "share", export for "PC" - sorry, if I use some wrong terms, got a german interface) of only DV-PAL video to FLV/QT/WMV there are always black bars on top/bottom of the video and the picture is wrong in aspect ratio. I can't help.
I tried different resolutions (original 720x576, 502x402, 320x240) and, as only possible with QT/WMV, different pixel aspect ratios (PARs), even user-defined PARs and 'wrong' aspect ratios (like 512x402). No chance. (I think precise user-defined data like "1,094" is not possible, because results did not change anyhow and this value is shown as "1".) With e.g. QT, 640x512, PAR 1,067 there are black bars with 6 px each.
My project settings must be correct I think: DV-PAL, 720x576, 4:3, 25 fps.
DV-PAL- and MPEG-Export/Share is no problem.
As a workaround I export DV-PAL and convert with XMediaRecode to FLV. But I want direct and clean export with PrEl. That's what I bought it for recently.
I wonder why there are only NTSC-setting suggested in FLV-share. I have to change the size by myself.
And I wonder why Wikipedia says PAR for DV-PAL is "1,0940" and Premiere says "1,067".
I'm new to Premiere Elements 7 (although I got some experience with Premiere 5/6.5, FinalCut, Cinelerra ...) using Windows XP.

I posted two videos on muvipix.com:
WMV cable modem settings PrEl (without audio, fps like original)
Strange: in VLC media player there are bars on the left and right (and slight faded bars on top/bottom - hope you can see) and in muvipix.com and Media Player Classic there are bars at top/bottom
http://muvipix.com/cpg/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=17219&pos=0
http://muvipix.com/cpg/albums/userpics/17219/Unbenannt.wmv
FLV (no resize, without audio, fps like original)
black bars on top/bottom, but only slight in Media Player Classic
http://muvipix.com/cpg/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=17219&pos=1
http://muvipix.com/cpg/albums/userpics/17219/Unbenannt.flv
I had to deactivate sound because this is Creative Commons stuff and I don't want to give credits. And I changed fps to "like original" because 30 fps as standard in PrEl is wrong. It's PAL here.
Thanks for your efforts.

NTSC DVD production from PAL media

I have had issues producing DVD for the U.S in the past.
In New Zealand we can play both PAL and NTSC on probably 99% of the DVD players in the country. Same in Australia I believe.
Seems that the U.S has mostly NTSC only DVD players and it is difficult to find a PAL or dual standard player. (Is that correct?)
Is there a better (simpler, faster, less steps) way for me to produce DVDs for the U.S (NTSC) than the way I am doing it.
Edit in PAL project and out put movie.
Import PAL Movie into a NTSC Project. Small scale adjustment usually required
Export Movie (NTSC)
Encode NTSC Movie to MPEG (I use Main Concept ENcoder - standalone version)
Open mpeg in NTSC Encore Project and burn disks
Note: I encode to mpeg outside Encore because Encore never seems to like encoding the avi (PAL or NTSC) in the NTSC Encore Project. It is fine with the mpegs

>it is difficult to find a PAL or dual standard player. (Is that correct?)
It is.
>Is there a better way for me to produce DVDs for the U.S
Maybe try DVFilm Atlantis.

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