NTSC TO PAL USING FCE

NTSC TO PAL: (HOW TO?) I EXPORTED MY SEQUENCE USING DV-PAL ENCODING TO A QUICK TIME MOVIE, THEN IN IDVD, SET THE PREFERENCE TO "PAL" AND BURNED THE DVD. HOW DO I PROVE IT'S REALLY A "PAL" DVD? I CAN PLAY IT ON MY COMPUTER, AND THOUGHT IT WOULD NOT WORK UNLESS I USED A "PAL" DVD PLAYER! HOW DO I PROVE IT'S A "PAL" DVD???
THANKS,

STOP SHOUTING!
The only way you can prove it is to use a PAL DVD player. One problem is that most PAL DVD players will now play back NTSC, so even that's not proof positive.

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Possible to import PAL and edit in PAL using FCE?

Hi -
I shot 25p PAL footag abroad. Before I purchase Final Cut Express I wanted to make sure I'll be able to edit it in FCE. I'd have to rent a PAL deck to capture from, but will FCE be able to handle the frame rate? Has anybody ever worked with 25p PAL ftg in FCE? I'd hate having to spend $$$ on converting all ftg to NTSC before importing.
Thanks!

In case you were emailed my original reply, it contained an error.
I thought you were talking about standard DV.

Converting ntsc to pal using sonyzu1 to sonyfx1e

hi,i have a job ,all tapes in ntsc,i need the final edit to be pal,
does anyone know if i can convert the tapes,playing them on the z-1,connecting through a firewire to a fx1.
or should i do the project with the ntsc settings in fcp and print the final edit to tape then get a conversion job done at a company?
any help appreciated
cheers
simon

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So I converted NTSC to PAL using nattress, but DVD issue now. Please read

So with Shanes help last night I managed to make the .mov PAL formatted. Now I went into DVD Studio Pro made my menus made sure it was PAL ready and started the burn process.
Yet it failed and the reason that DVD said is " Final PAL (Video):Invalid Video Asset"
Can anyone help me burn a proper PAL DVD?
Thanks

You might post at the DVDSP forum, too, but please return here if you get a helpful answer and close the thread.
I've never tried to do PAL, sorry, but I do know that DVDSP must be set up to work in PAL before you can use PAL assets. That, of course, is all in the manual.
Hope you get better advice.
bogiesan

Ntsc vs pal

pal vs ntsc
Posted: Oct 18, 2006 8:27 AM Reply Email
i got some footage of a wedding that was shot in ntsc format on vhs that was burnt do a dvd. i recorded the dvd onto my computer using final cutpro (dvd to cmaera to computer). I saved it as a quick time movie, now i want to burn into a pal format film so it can be shown in England. How can i do this with idvd.
I tried changing the prefernces to pal and i tried changing the video mode in the project info to pal but i get an message when i click burn that says TV standard conflict. i still go ahead to burn but it comes beack with an encoding error.
is there anyway i can change the format (ntsc to pal) using finalcut express

to playback your ntsc dvd (vhs for that matter) you need either
- a dvd player or vhs deck that does true ntsc playback plus a monitor or projector that handles true ntsc
or
- a dvd player or vhs deck that does "ntsc playback on pal" (i believe that's what it was called) with a regular tv. it's a rough scaling of the video-image and it drops a few frames here and there to compensate for the frame-rate difference. this is of course not as good as a proper conversion, but for home-viewing is more than good enough.
this last pont also explains what is the point of places offering proper conversion...
discs created in dvd sp usually are set to play in all regions - though can be made to play only in 1 region, you'll have to check this with the person who created the disc or by popping it into a different region player
hope this helps

NTSC from Pal

Hi
I am using background encoding on DVDSPRO.
Will this convert PAl to NTSC for me? It is after all converting the footage to an Mpeg format for me in the process. Will this Mpeg2 be NTSC?
Chris

You should convert the footage to NTSC from PAL using conversion options in Compressor and/or Final Cut plugins (such as nattress.com)
Do a quick search for "PAL NTSC" on this board for some more information, this comes up often
or click this
http://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?threadID=&q=PAL+NTSC&objID=f952&dateRan ge=last90days&userID=&numResults=15

Any tutorials on converting HD NTSC to PAL?

I have footage that was shot on a JVC camera, saved in a FCP file on a DVD disc. I was able to load the footage from the DVD onto the FCP timeline.
How can I covert it to PAL?
I have tried to understand the posts in this forum but everything is in bits and pieces. Are there any step-by-step instructions or tutorials available any where? Or is this process done by purchasing more software?
I have a Mac OS X, 4 x 2.5 GHz PowerPC G5.
Any hope?

You can convert NTSC to PAL using Compressor.
Other alternatives for standards conversion:
[JES Deinterlacer|http://www.xs4all.nl/~jeschot/home.html] -decent quality and free.
[Natress Standards Conversion|http://www.nattress.com/Products/standardsconversion/standardsconver sion.htm] -great quality, costs $100.
Or.... Take the original to a production facility that has either a Terranex or Snell & Wilcox converter. This will cost money so shop around. But you will get excellent results and it is real time, the other methods all take a very long time, even with a powerful high end Mac.

FCE 4: NTSC AND PAL?

Hi, this summer I bought FCE, but I really still have to learn using it. Now I saw that between the description of the FCE 4 upgrade, it says that you can use Pal and NTSC footage in the same timeline. This means that if I upgrade I can use in the same movie some shots from my NTSC camera and some of my Pal camera and then export the all movie in whatever format I may like? (NTSC or PAL)
I'm asking because, if this is true and the results are good, This can be a good thing to kick out of my pocket another 100 €...
Thanks in advance for any help.

Sandbox Test
1) being is a PAL orientated country, I download some NTSC footage from iStock Photos (iStock_000003835610DV.mov - NTSC, no sound, 720 x 480 px).
2) opened FCE4, and created a new sequence as "PAL DV 48kHz"
3) imported the NTSC footage
4) dropped the NTSC footage into the timeline, and it prompted me to either match the clip or not. for this purpose i said no, and the NTSC footage was converted to match the sequence settings.
5) the canvas view was at 72% whilst when i looked at the NTSC footage in the viewer it was 50% - PAL 720x576 whilst NTSC 720x480.
6) playback in the timeline without rendering, and all looks good.
7) exported as movie (not self-contained).
8) playback in QT7.4 side-by-side the original footage and naturally the width's match, but the FCE4 converted material was stretched to fill the difference.
9) changed the aspect/size to match that of the original footage and all looked normal.
I guess the morale here is mixing footage of different sizes will need some manipulation to make the final output look normal.
I am sure others more experienced with mixed media will correct my knowledge inaccuracies...
I hope this helps
Message was edited by: peterjohndean

Follow up from Real Pro thread - NTSC and PAL and AVCHD and FCE

Interesting topic line but can I just check one thing out from PAL land.
With an HD/AVCHD camera it is not recording in either PAL or NTSC as this is a analogue mode - so the issue issue of format is only relevant if i playback on a analogue TV. We have a digital tv so i record on AVCHD, deal in that format in FCE and burn to DVD (not sure in what format) play on DVD player through the digital TV.
If that is all correct then why do the manufacturers, in my case Canon HF10, talk about an NTSC and PAL version and then price differently - comparing the spec sheets from the Canon site I can see no difference. Am I missing something?

Hi Tom
The thing i was trying to establish was whether really there was a difference (other than price ) in the so called versions of the Canon HF10. The specs are exactly the same. My assumption is that as the cam records in AVCHD unless you intend to play back thro a PAL or NTSC TV (bearing in mind most European PAL sets play NTSC as well) it makes no odds which camera.
My plan- and this is what I need to check - is to record and import into FCE taking your advice not to record in the highest quality to save rendering on import. After editing can export through FCE to PAL or NTSC DVD version for playing on TV.
Does that sound right
PS I have found your book on FCE very helpful to date !!!!

I often use my iPhone to take video but the result is NTSC and I use PAL, how I can change? Can somebody help me? Thanks

I often use my iPhone to take video but the result is NTSC and I use PAL, how I can change? Can somebody help me? Thanks

My problem is when I transfer the movie on Final Cut for the assembly of the film, I know that I can convert with MPEG Streamclip but I would like to take my film directly on PAL. Is that possible? In the previous message I wasn't clear, I hope now I explained myself better. Thanks for help

NTSC to PAL - Export straight from FCP or use an mpeg file?

I was reading this
http://www.macworld.com/article/49306/2006/02/marchcreate.html
however it does not mention what to bring into compressor.
Should I export my ntsc sequence straight from FCP into compressor, or should I drag an ntsc mpeg file I aldeady made into compressor? Ive been trying the latter but can't do much as each step gives me the spinning beach ball for anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes. Thanks much.

Yes, you should export directly from FCP Using Compressor. Exporting to a heavily compressed MPEG-file, and then converting that from NTSC to PAL makes no sense. You would want your video to go through as few conversions/generations as possible.

NTSC vs PAL: difference in compatibility

I wonder if there is a difference between compatibility of NTSC and PAL camera's of the same model. Checking on the supported camcorder list one can read the Sony HDR XR500 is compatible for NTSC but isn't mentioned in the PAL list.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3290?viewlocale=en_US#2
I'm thinking of buying this camera in a PAL version and use iMovie09 and FCE 4. Does anyone knows of this will work without any third party software?
Thanks in advance...

I have heard that there is no such a thing as NTSC HD or PAL HD and that HD is just HD regardless of the country it's in. Is that true?
Yes, its true. As far as "definition" goes, there is no difference between a 1080 image shot in a PAL region and a 1080 image shot in an NTSC region. However, which frame rate you intend to shoot at eg 50i / 60i, 25p / 30p etc will certainly make a difference. Most consumer level HD camera's are restricted depending upon the electrical frequency of the market region they are being sold in. If your camera was purchased in a 60Hz ( NTSC ) region then its likely your camera will only support 60i, 30p 24p etc. If its purchased in a 50Hz (PAL) region then it's likely to only support 50i, 25p etc.
Generally it is only the higher end pro camera's that support switching between systems ... neither the HV20 nor the XH-A1 have this capability.
Could I rent an HD camera in Europe and shoot stuff with it there and then bring the resulting tapes back here to the U.S. and play them on my U.S.-purchased HD cameras and decks and load it into my current FCP setup in L.A. without any problem?
Well that would depend on what camera you rented as compared to what your current setup is ... what's your current setup and what do you have in mind to rent?

IMovie - iDVD and a NTSC versus PAL question

I have some questions about creating iMovie for use in iDVD and about the various formats. Here goes:
I have a large number of travel photos taken in various cities that I need to use to create a project in iMovie. In addition, I have a couple of smallish video segments that go with each of these cities. I want to be able to get to any section from the DVD menus. The sections being defined as the either the videos or the photos for each individual city. Also, I need to be able to create both NTSC and PAL formatted DVD's from this exercise.
Now, as I understand it, there's several ways I can approach this:
First, I can use iMovie to create discreet projects for each segment. The individual city videos being one type. The photo shows of the individual cities being another type. Then export each of these via the media browser and import them individually into iDVD. But that then begs the question of NTSC versus PAL. Since I have to choose a project format in iMovie (NTSC or PAL), does that imply that I've got to have separate projects for each one of the cities NTSC or PAL versions? Or can I just use the NTSC project and cut the DVD in either NTSC or PAL format based on the settings in iDVD? If I use this route, what's the best export format to use for optimal appearance on the finished DVD?
Second, I can create one long project in iMovie. Put chapter markers in it and export it to the media browser. Then, import it into iDVD and use the chapter markers referenced from the various menu picks. If I go this route, once again, how do I account for the NTSC versus PAL differences? And again, what's the best export settings for optimal viewing?
I guess much of this question relates to the issue of having to specify a format in both iMovie and iDVD. If I choose NTSC in iMovie, but use PAL in iDVD, other than the obvious format mismatch, what actually happens by doing this? Or, turn it around. Use PAL in iMovie and NTSC in iDVD. Again, what's the ramifications of doing this?
Just trying to figure out the best way of going about this and what the tradeoffs are for each approach. Any insight you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Oh... and sorry to have been so long winded.
Many thanks in advance,
Tom

Hi
Oh Dear. Is this an assigned task from an editing turor. Then He/She is mean.
a. If You want a DVD - Then You should not use iMovie'08 or 09 or 11 as they can not export interlaced video to iDVD as it needs but discard every second line resulting in a less quality DVD. Use (for SlideShows and Movies)
• iMovie up to HD6 (SlideShows or Movie) - or -
• FinalCut any version (SlideShows or Movie) - or -
• FotoMagico (if You make only a SlideShow - can not do movies)
If persisting with iMovie'08-11 - Then DO NOT use "Share to iDVD" from within any version of iMovie (not 3 - HD6 either) as they do a bad job. But in iM'08-11 "Share to Media Browser" and as Large. In iM HD6 or FCE/P Save as QuickTime .mov and import this into iDVD.
b. NTSC and PAL - If DVD is to be sent to EU (PAL) - then most DVD-players also playback NTSC so conversion is not needed (mostly).
There are NO way to make a combo version PAL & NTSC - They do not exist.
If You make a PAL iMovie /FC project - then DO NOT let iDVD convert to NTSC (or other way either)
• it can do so - BUT Result is severely BAD
I use JES_Deinterlacer to make the conversion and it's so much better. (free on internet)
But absolutly best result is by doing two versions in the movie-editor - one PAL and one NTSC version.
c. Use High quality DVD brand - I only use Verbatim DVD-R
and set down burn speed to x4 - Less burn errors and plays on many more Players.
Just to start with.
Take one Q at a time and we can fix this.
Yours Bengt W

DVI to Video adapter switches from NTSC to PAL

I just bought an apple dvi to analog video adapter to connect my mac mini to my tv.
It worked like a charm the first time, but seems to reset for no reason from ntsc to pal output. This is really annoying because the pal output is nearly impossible to read, making it painful to switch it back. It's weird because it boots into ntsc just fine and the login window looks good. But as soon as I log in from either account, it opens in pal. When I change it, it will change back over night.
I tried using both composite and s-video plugs. The TV is a sony wega xbr (US).

I assume you have the previous generation mini even though you have posted in the forum for the newer one. The newer one wouldn't work at all from the adapter you describe. Anyway...
...OS X's display preferences files may have corrupted somehow. Especially since it worked before and now it doesn't. That really sounds like a problem with the configuration of the Mac.
In /Library/Preferences is a file called com.apple.windowserver.plist. Navigate your way to it and throw it in the trash. Also, in your main user account (folder with your name on it) under ~/Library/Preferences/ByHost will also be found a file com.apple.windowserver.xxxxxxxxxx.plist where the xxxxx is a hexidecimal string. Throw that file in the trash, too. Now restart.
When OS X restarts and finds those files missing from their expected location, it creates fresh copies with default values. This will give a clean start with any attached display.

DVD Footage for FCP Edit - how to tell if NTSC or PAL?!

Hi all, apologies if this seems like a stupid request but I have a job at the moment calling for me to extract footage from a DVD, edit in FCP, add a few bits from Motion etc., but I can't work out if the DVD is NTSC or PAL!
I intend to extract the video (no issues with copyright) via DVDxDVPro but am unsure if the DVD has been encoded in NTSC or PAL. The footage it contains is from both the States (NTSC) and South Africa (PAL) so how do I tell? I don't want to go through a standards conversion if I can help it.
I am keen to try to retain as much quality as possible (client can't provide tape) so also any thougts on the best output from DVDxDVPRo for FCP editing?
Thanks all,
Best wishes
Michael

Hi Thomas, that's it!
Thanks for this - it clearly shows the TV standard and the resolution plus 4:3 etc., so everything I needed for confirmation.
Glad I cheked because it was in Pal - thought the conversion in DVDxDVPro looked a bit ropey.
This realy baffled me - seemed so simple but couldn't find a way to tell the standard. Learn something everyday...
I am using DVCPro for export from DVDxDVPro - anyone thoughts on a better option?
Thanks again for the answer - and so quick on a Sunday too!
Kind regards
Michael

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