Numbering & section weirdness

I've recently adjusted the numbering section of a (InDesign CS4) 44 page doc and after saving it to a pdf, I noticed that PDF pages jumped from page 44 to 178. It looks like there are 178 pages in the doc rather than 44 according to the thumbnails and the total page count in the top menu in Acrobat. My actual InDesign layout pages are correct and show up correctly. As are the actual layout pages within the PDF file. It's only the page numbering in the PDF thumbnail or total number of pages in the Acrobat top menu. When you go to print it says your printing 1-178 pp. Master pages are set up properly and work fine in the layout. Any ideas on why this is happening or any fixes. Thanks Scott

All the page numbers in the layout show up correctly. It's a 44 page doc with cover, inside front and back cover, and back cover, plus 40 text pages which is where I started the page sequence (actual page 3 in layout). The Acrobat file shows you have 142 pages in the document when there are only 44. They print out fine by the way (correct page numbering). By the way when I wanted to print the whole thing I had to print 1-142 not 1-44 (it wouldn't allow 1-44).

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2. And also I need to add the Chapter number with the page number (Ex: 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 … , 2/2, 2/3, 2/4 …., 3/2, 3/3, 3/4 ….). Here also I am doing manually like. Numbering & Section Options => Page Numbering => Section Prefix: 1 and Include Prefix When Numbering Pages. (The page number should start from 2).
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S3391.indd
32457.indd       1/2 … 1/5
32617.indd       1/6 ….. 1/9
32217.indd       1/10 … 1/13
Chapter 2
S3392.indd
42457.indd       2/2 … 2/3
52617.indd       2/4 ….. 2/9
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Could anyone give me an idea or script, please? At least for First one, could anyone suggest me ASAP.
P.S: I have some more questions regarding this, I will post that after some time...
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Thiru

var openedDocs = app.documents;
var chapterPrefix = prompt ("Enter the chapter prefix", "1/", "Prefix");
for (var doc=0; doc<openedDocs.length; doc++){
    openedDocs[doc].sections[0].continueNumbering = true;
    openedDocs[doc].sections[0].sectionPrefix = chapterPrefix;
    openedDocs[doc].sections[0].includeSectionPrefix = true;
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I had two different spreads which had "start section" checked under numbering and section dalogue. Both of them had a page 4 and so when I went to print it was impossible to print as error would continuously display. So to solve problem, with the first section, I specified Start Page Numbering at with "1000" to ensure that it would not conflict wiht the numbering of the other section. Hence, now I have spreads in my pages panel with numbering like 1000,1001,1002,1003 - even though they are really the 1,2,3,4 page respecively in document. However, I cannot name them 1,2,3,4 because I later name spreads 1,2,3,4. Rather than using this high number to represent the spread numbering, is there a better solution?
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