Numbering - stuck (ID CS3)

Hi! I'm stuck while trying to do a relatively simple thing with Paragraph styles. I've just imported a long text (book) into InDesign and now I'd like to set up the top level section headings to look like this: b Section <number> b Actual section title text Furthermore, I'd like section titles to have a gray background to make them stand out of the text better. I don't want to create separate text boxes for each section title, as this would a) require me to position them in the same place on all pages and b) cut out manually all section titles from the text I've imported from Word, adjust text boxes on first pages of each section etc. etc. - way too much repetitive work. Hard to do it consistently too. But, it turns out I can't do that. First, no way to insert a "new line" into "numbering" in a paragraph style. I tried to enter "^r" or "^n" but it doesn't work, the only thing that can be inserted is apparently a tab or some funny characters. I watched all Adobe tutorials and searched the web - no way to do that, not possible. Failing here I was only able to get this: b Section <number> Actual section text but it is b quite long. Now I wanted the second line of the section title ("quite long") to be start exactly where the first character of the "Actual section text..." starts. Again, no way apparently to do that. Finally, absolutely no way to apply a different background to a para. I need some help or I need to get sure that InDesign is not capable of doing this - which would mean I have to abandon it for some other tool that would be clever enough for structured text that I want to typeset.

>First, no way to insert a "new line" into "numbering" in a paragraph style.
You're right, there isn't.
>I wanted the second line of the section title ("quite long") to be start exactly where the first character of the "Actual section text..." starts. Again, no way apparently to do that.
Yes, there is. Use a tab after the number and a hanging indent. (Or maybe you can insert an "indent to here" code - I don't have ID in front of me, so I can't check.)
>Finally, absolutely no way to apply a different background to a para.
Have you tried a custom underline?

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I am currently in the process of designing a sticker which is to be cut from Vinyl and I am wanting to know what I must do to Numerical/ Alpha characters to register their outlines as cuts.
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