Nw04 to nw04s

Hi,
got a couple of questions regarding nw04 to nw04s
currently we are on ep 6.0 sp14 and interested to use the features of NW04s.
1. is it an upgrade or migration from nw04 to nw04s? i hope it is an upgrade, am i right?
2. is it mandatory to upgrade all the systems in our landscape i.e. XI, BW, SRM, R3 to nw04s...or is there a facility to use only nw04s PORTAL.
3. as far as i know, nw04s and nw04, the SPs release are going in parallel.. i.e.
   are the ep6.0 sp14 and nw04s portal sps5 have the same features or does nw04s portal has additional features compared to EP 6.0 SP14.
   my point here is, we are only interested in upgrading portal, so is it ok to continue sp stacks of nw04 or should we shift to nw04s.
could someone please clarify
thank you

Hi,
The code developed on 2004 will work on 2004s.
Some minor changes have been made refer to the documentation for specific details
SAP NW2004s is the mySAP Business Suite edition of SAP NW 2004.it is a minor release that delivers on specific needs of the mySAP and xapps solutions delivered by SAP in 2005. the "s" stands for "mySAP Business Suite Edition".
The next major release of NW will deliver on Business Process Platform(BPP) it will be released in 2006.
Few of the New capabilities in NW2004s
1)Developing a web based user interface with Web Dynpro fro ABAP.
2)Enhancements to enabling B2B processes
3)Enhancements to business task management
4)Enhancements to business planning
5)Enhancements to enterprise data warehousing
6)mass setup of mobile devices
7)implementing a global portal
Refer the link for more info
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/5b/8c3842bb58f83ae10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/57/a21f407b402402e10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
NW04 is a 'Java version' which means you can develop applications using Java and export them to portal.
NW04s is a 'ABAP version'.Here you can develop ABAP reports and transactions and export them to portal. There you can create iViews using them.
Netweaver 04s, includes both the ABAP and Java stacks. The Sneak preview for NW04s is only for the ABAP stack, and the Sneak Preview NW04 SP15 is only the java stack. If you are using the sneak preview for ABAP, you can develop WDA applications and BSP applications, they run directly in the engine, not in a portal. But they can be embeded in an iView in some portal. You don't have to have a portal to run your application. If you are using the java side, you can develop WDJ applications and JSP applications. Same applies here, they run on the java engine, not in a portal, but can be embeded into an iView which runs on the portal. But you don't need a portal for your application to run. The portal is just a frontend UI, the apps themselves run on the underlying engine, whether its ABAP or JAVA.
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Re: What is NW04 s?
Re: Differences between NW04 SP11 and NW04 SP15

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    06/11/29 12:14:54 -  ***********************************************************
    Nov 29, 2006 12:14:54... Info: End of log messages of the target system.
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