OAF and ADF

Hi,
Please help me in finding the differences between OAF and ADF...
Regards,
Anupam

By doing extensive read on adoption of ADF , I understand that as of now it is good to stick to tools provided as part of that ERP itself for customization (like OAF for Oracle EBS , Siebel tools for Siebel, etc.,)
Though ADF offers extensive UI (due to JSF), the only other reason for the adoption of ADF could be that it is part of Fusion stack . And may be it would help for easy migration to Fusion tomorrow if we have our custom pages developed in ADF today. By carefully using OAF following bast practices , still we can avoid using ADF.
Please correct me if my understanding is correct.

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E-Business Suite Application Dev using OAF and ADF (White Paper Feb. 2008)

Hi,
In Oracle White Paper entitled "E-Business Suite Application Dev using OAF and ADF (Feb. 2008)" it was mentioned on page 7 :
+"When ADF 11g becomes production, we will publish a revised paper that compares OAF with ADF 11g, and discuss development against E-Business Suite."+
I've had no luck finding a new comparison table for OAF R12 with ADF 11g :(
can anyone help me on this?
thanks in advance,
Adrian

Srini Chavali wrote:
It is still not clear if your have to use SSO - the scripts loadsdk.sql and regapp.sql specifically are for Oracle Single Sign ON (OSSO) - the authentication schemes referred to on page 20 of the same doc do not require SSO. So, is SSO a requirement in your scenario ? If not, you should be following the steps in the section titled "Confuguring Custom Authentication" (beginning of page 20).Ouch..Sorry Srini, I have completely misinterpreted by the page no.'s in Adobe pdf reader.I was telling you about page 18 of the document.
Anyway i'll start with configuring Custom Authentication as by your suggestion.
But i'll move forward with no understandings about SSO and its implementations.
All I could get is this links
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E15586_01/webcenter.1111/e12405/wcadm_security_sso.htm
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E15523_01/install.1111/e12002/sso_das.htm
Is this link correct to start learning about SSO or do I need to learn anything (LDAP,OAM,etc..) before that ?

Would like to ask about Pros&Cons betwwen Oracle Forms, OAF and ADF

Hi,
Is there some material about the pros&cons between Oracle Forms, OAF and ADF, from angles like technical architecture, performance, network efficiency, etc...
Asking this becuase EBS cusotmer is familiar with Oracle Forms and OAF, when we talking about ADF to them, it is quite confused especially about OAF and ADF, finding material to elaborate these 3 technology clearly, thanks
- Liang Yi

Thanks, I check the comparison of OAF and ADF document downloaded from Oracle Support, but it is for ADF10g, I believe ADF11g is much better, and anyone check the comparison table between ADF 10g and OAF R12 would choose OAF.
And, from the document, I saw one line that is very confused, check it out, do not understand what does it mean with "if your application does not need to integrate with EBS... ... you should use ... ... integration with EBS" -_-!
"If your application does not need to integrate with the
E-Business Suite, or doesn't require any of the E-Business Suite-specific
capabilities enumerated above, you should use ADF 10g with SOA based
integration with E-Business Suite."
- Liang Yi
Edited by: lymath on Jun 1, 2011 12:41 AM

Integration between OAF and ADF

Hi,
We have a requirement where we have to call ADF page as a region in OAF page.
We are able to deploy ADF application on Web logic server and call them as a standalone application in OAF using "Function and Menu".
Also, I understand that ADF and OAF interaction back and forth is not possible. ATG seems to be working on this for handling session management.
However, I need to understand if there is any mechanism by which ADF pages can be embedded in OAF page as a region and work as a normal application in Oracle Ebiz Suite?
It seems that OAF Rich Interface allows embedding ADF pages in OAF.
Appreciate some guidance on this.

Hi YJ,
Yes, we (ATG) are still working on session management between OA Framework and Oracle ADF, as well as other features of the Oracle E-Business Suite SDK for Java. Stay tuned for an announcement on Steven Chan's blog at https://blogs.oracle.com/stevenChan when that becomes available. My Oracle Support Note 974949.1 will be updated with further information at that time.
Embedding an Oracle ADF region in an OA Framework page requires, at a minimum, that you create an EBS function security function for your ADF page and add a richContainer item to your OA Framework page that calls the function. You may need session management features depending on what you are trying to do with it. We haven't worked out all the nuances yet for more specific guidelines, sorry.
Thanks,
Sara

Any conversion utilities from OAF to ADF

Are there any migration or conversion utilities from OAF to ADF.
We have several forms developed using OAF, we want to migrate/convert these to ADF.
Any help/suggestions are appreciated.
Thank you,

There is no conversion utility available between OAF and ADF
But you may find below links interesting.
Metalink Note :Using Oracle Application Framework (OAF) and Application Development Framework (ADF) [ID 563047.1]
http://blogs.oracle.com/stevenChan/2007/06/oa_framework_or_adf.html
http://mukx.blogspot.com/2008/02/next-big-thing-adf-faces.html
http://shiv-saroj.blogspot.com/2008/03/oaf-vs-adf-with-respect-to-oracle.html
Thanks
AJ

In market-OAF or ADF??

Hi,
What are the prospects of OAF or ADF after 1-2 years from now in your opinion.
I want to start learning either of OAF or ADF, however don't know about market prospects.
Which one to choose from OAF or ADF?I am expert of forms.
Experienced people please suggest.

Hi,
OAF is a e-biz web developement framework mainly for Oracle applications.
If you want to develope new pages and extensions for Oracle applications 11i and R12, then learn OA framework.
ADF is a web developement framework and can be used for standalone applications developement.
ADF 11g is also a web developement framework for Oracle Fusion Applications (next version of ERP which is not yet released).
If your a ebiz developer you can learn OAF. Remember learning OAF wont be wasted as bc4j is used in ADF too.
If your not a ebiz developer start learning ADF 11g. And the production version of jdeveloper 11g is also released.
Thanks,
Prasanna

ADF table and ADF form on the same view object

Hi,
As per the ADF demos available on ADF site, I created a jsf page with 2 panels. One panel is an ADF table based on a view object. And the other panel is and ADF form based on the same view object. My requirement is that as I scroll through the records in the ADF table, the ADF Form should dynamically display the details of the record in the ADF table. My understanding is that this should be automatic. However, its not working as expected. What have I missed?

Hi,
Apply PPR for form that displays details.
Like :
<af:table id="t3">
</af:table>
<af:panelFormLayout id="pfl2" partialTriggers="t3">
</af:panelFormLayout >

JDev and ADF is difficult

As a new user to ADF I am finding ADF and JDev a little discouraging and hard to use. I did a search on how to improve jdev's performance and found a lot of useful tips and tricks to use, but I pose the question. Shouldn't it just work out of the box? Coming from a web 2.0 background developing EE applications using Spring, JPA/Hibernate, Extjs, and netbeans I keep thinking to myself wow how in the world should I have known that changing this or that table attribute causes this or that to behave differently. For example I read a thread on multi-selecting table rows and in this article multiselect selectedRowKeys must be removed for multi select to perform correctly. Now I realize this is a simple example, but I find myself asking the same types of questions about dragging and dropping views into jdev or mapping bindings to pages so that I can gain access to data. I can relate to some angry posts by some about how difficult it is to develop anything useful in JDev and ADF because of a series of random problems (things like running OOM, or mapping bindings to a page which then for some reason map incorrectly or they think they are mapped to another page, etc...) Now I can already hear the first response... you are new to this world (yes) and you just need time. What if I told you I've been reading so much documentation over the past month that my eyes are bleeding. I've been through countless tutorials on how to use JDev and ADF. I've successfully created "Sample applications" generating useless tables of data. I've read several books on ADF and how to button click my way to creating EE applications, but I find the memorization of button clicking to be exhausting. I keep telling my boss I want to go back to writing code not dragging and dropping items on a page so that JDev can generate/modify .xml files for me.
Now that said I know I am new to this world and I'm trying to find some common ground as my job requires me to develop EE applications in ADF, and I must learn this technology. So I ask all of you ADF and JDev advocates prove me wrong here and point me to the documentation that all of you use to navigate this world of yours.
Thanks for your understand,
Wraith (Newbie and found wanting)
Edited by: wraith101 on Aug 14, 2012 3:38 PM
Edited by: wraith101 on Aug 14, 2012 3:42 PM

First off thank you for the response Shay!
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Getting used to the way you build applications with JDev and ADF takes time, but think how much time did it took you to learn Spring, JPA, ExtJS etc to a level where you knew every little setting you needed to manually code in a spring XML file, or JPQL query syntax in your JPA or a javascript in ExtJS - My guess was that getting to a situation where you know everything in those technology wasn't exactly a problem less experience.
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It is true it took some time to learn the technologies listed above. I guess If I were arguing for them I would say they were easier to use and learn due to most of them being open source and very popular because of this (i.e tons of examples, books, and documentation). Not sure if ADF is there yet?
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I do like the fact that I can get from 0 to a fully functional page with a few clicks here and there, and then fine tune the results with some property settings in various places.
And then if I need even further customization I can go to the code level when needed.
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I agree it takes very little time to create something that is at least visually usable. I'm not familiar enough ADF yet to determine now hard it is to actually create a fully functioning application that does more than display data. For example, how would I create a visualization that updates every 10 seconds and allows users to post feedback in a similar manner to this forum?
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The question of whether the declarative and visual development experience is a good thing or not is to some degree a matter of personal preferences.
I wonder how long would it have taken someone to build something like this: http://download.oracle.com/otn_hosted_doc/jdeveloper/11gdemos/ADF112/ADF112.html
with the stack you mentioned above. How many lines of code would they have needed to write, how many syntax errors while coding, and would the result be as functional so fast.
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Agree I'm not hear to argue which type of development experience is better or worse. I would point out however that as a JDev/ADF developer in order to develop in the technology it seems you must do most of your development within the JDev environment or have extensive experience in JSF (i.e know which xml files to edit and why I believe there is a reason JSF and JSP are seldom used IMHO because they are difficult. I understand JDev/ADF try to solve this problem) were as in other technologies you as the developer can choose the IDE etc. Another thing I noticed while watching the link you listed was the developer went from place to place to place within jdev making changes. As a newbie it seems that in order to develop ADF in JDev you must just "know things" (ie. for example he pulled in a method in to the task flow so he could invoke some validation or prereq check. As a developer how am I to know how and where and why I can/must do these things? ADF seems to be process based in order to achieve some goal, but the JDev framework gives no clues as to what you should/need to do next. As well as that I needed to create that method within my Application Module in order to do this, which by the way was not mentioned within this video.).
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We often see the reaction of "I don't get what all those XML files that JDev generate are doing" reaction from people who just start up with JDev and ADF.
But we do try and explain how everything is working in places like the ADF Insider Advanced seminars:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/adf/learnmore/adfinsider-093342.html
I think the fact that there is a lot of documentation for ADF, and a lot of blog entries, how-to's etc on the web is actually a good thing.
I often find that if I run into an issue with ADF - a simple google search will show me how someone else solved that issue - and I like this too.
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I guess my biggest gripe here would be yes there is tons of JDev/ADF documentation on OTN and other places, but none of it is complete, and I would also argue that the organization on OTN is half hazard, and makes learning ADF difficult as well. I find myself drilling down through layers and layers of links only to not be able to get back to were I came from to look at another topic/tutorial I was interested in(maybe we need a ADF train to be added to the documentation wikis).
I would also argue when developing in other frameworks writing the xml is a big part to understanding how your application is tied together. For example, Spring servlet mapping or Spring injection mapping. When JDev does the mapping for me I feel that I know less and less about how my application works and I bet all the advanced ADF developers out there know quite a bit about how ADF xml mapping occurs and why, and I bet they make changes to these xml files manually quite often to get things to work as they desire?
I want to be clear here I am not trying to flaming here, just trying to make a difference for other developers like myself who come along and need to learn ADF to complete some task. Looking at the OTN site I believe creating documentation for ADF development appears to be a top priority, but due to the complexity of the framework there is just so much and it seems to be everywhere. My suggestion would be to include why we are doing such and such with in jdev approach instead of a drag this here to do this approach. For example, I'd like to see a tutorial where it explains when you drag this item in to the content window it creates this xml bind which is the same as what you would normally do in JSF like this (if anyone knows of such a tutorial plz link).
Again thanks for the reply, and I encourage others to give feedback and suggestions on how I too can become a better JDev/ADF developer.
-Wraith

BPM and ADF integration - some questions

Hi,
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1) What is the best way to pass data (task id, proces id, proces data) from BPM workspace to Human Task Task Flow (and get them as TF params).
2) Where can I find a description, how ADF app comunicates with BPM process.
3) Where can I find a description of all data controls created by JDeveloper (BPM Suite) when HT Task Flow is created.
3) Where can I find a description (and their functionality) of managed beans created by JDeveloper (BPM Suite) when HT Task Flow is created.
Kuba

Hi,
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1) I know ADF quite good. Having method in data controls (in our case getTaskDetails()) we need to invoke it somehow. I don't see anywher invokation of this method.
2) In generated task flow there is some managed beans and params - what is role of them ? Having over 50 task flows , do I need it in all of them. Where can I find description of those beans and params
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All infomation I need from BPM is:
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- task flow name (to open apriopriate tab in my application)
- available outcomes
- to know is BPM operation is enabled
Kuba

Trinidad and ADF Rich Faces components::

Hi!
Does someone know about any problem while using Trinidad and ADF Rich Faces, or just the Trinidad components in JDev11g ?
Thanx.
Endy

Endy,
ADF Faces RC isn't supported in IE6, so that certainly wasn't the issue. I have inadvertently mixed Trinidad and ADF Faces RC components on a page and didn't run into issues, but I did correct that issue based upon comments from Frank/Shay on the forum. Bottom line is that while they may work (or appear to work) together, it's not a supported combination.
Best,
John

HELP: include another page in with JDeveloper and ADF

Hi all,
I am trying to make a layout page with JDeveloper and ADF. But I just can't make things work. I have the pre-coded header and footer html pages and want to include them in a jspx somehow. I tried panelPage too, but the rendering style is away from our pre-coded header and footer.
1. Use jsp:include.
header works fine but footer is rendered before the page content, even if the footer is placed after the page content. Is there a way to customize the position?
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<f:subview id="footerView"
binding="#{backing_welcomePage.footerView}">
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</f:facet>
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I followed the doc and use the document tag. But the frame page is rendered but none of included pages are rendered. So I got a blank page.

<f:view>
<afh:html>
<afh:head title="my frame page">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"/>
</afh:head>
<afh:body>
<afh:frameBorderLayout height="100%" width="100%">
<f:facet name="center">
<afh:frame source="topPage.jspx" name="topPage3"/>
</f:facet>
<f:facet name="top">
<afh:frame source="topPage.jspx" height="200" name="topPage2"/>
</f:facet>
<f:facet name="bottom">
<afh:frame source="topPage.jspx" height="200" name="topPage1"/>
</f:facet>
</afh:frameBorderLayout>
</afh:body>
</afh:html>
</f:view>

<f:view>
<af:document title="FrameBorderLayout Demo">
<af:form>
<af:panelGroup layout="vertical">
<f:facet name="separator">
<af:objectSeparator />
</f:facet>
<af:outputFormatted styleUsage="instruction" value="<b>A frameBorderLayout</b>"/>
</af:panelGroup>
</af:form>
</af:document>
</f:view>

for #1 have you tried throwing a verbatim tag around your includes like:
<f:verbatim>
<jsp:directive.include file="/includes/footer.jsp"/>
</f:verbatim>
it's how we got around intermixing html and jsf

Difference Between Oracle ADF and ADF Rich Client

Hello Gurus,
I want to know the difference between those two:
Oracle ADF:
http://goo.gl/6Q1i2
and
ADF Rich Client:
http://goo.gl/L31ra
I downloaded Jdeveloper 11g (11.1.2.3.0)
I did this tutorial which It adf right? http://goo.gl/8Mf7c
and this other is rich client right? http://goo.gl/7Krew
Can I please know the advantages of them over the other one? THANKS !!!

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How do I make those buttons active with out the extra click on the submit?
After I click the commit button, how do I keep the current data on the screen?
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Shay,
Thanks for the reply.
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Use single realm for multiple web applciation in sharepoint 2013 and adfs 2.0

Use single realm for multiple web applciation in sharepoint 2013 and adfs 2.0
Please help!!

I dont think you can do this, because you have to name/url of the web application in realm. You have to add new realm for each web application.here is script to add another realm.
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We are looking to upgrade ADF to 11.1.2.0 and looking for WebCenter compatibility.
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Looking at 11.1.2.0.0 note on
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