OAF Developer Learning Curve

What is your experience in the time it takes for a Developer to get up to speed on OAF?
How important is prior 'apps tech' developer experience with the R11i eBusiness Suite to the learning curve with OAF?
Are there non-Oracle University instructor-led or self study classes available on OAF?

The learning curve depends on where you start.
I would say, prior Java experience with Java is a requirement as OAF involves substantial amount of coding to implement business logic.
Any Self -Service applications experience with prior versions (like Framework 11.5.7, AOL/J ) may aid during learning.
As for having 11i experience, need to have some basic 11i tech experience(i.e AOL, AOL/J) to deploy and integrate the development with 11i.
Have not come across any non-oracle Classes for OAF yet!!.
Hope this helps.
Srini

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Need HELP to learn OAF development

Hi,
I am an experienced oracle financials developer. Most of my experience has been on using Developer 6i tools to develop front end and reports. Now I am planning to learn OAF framework to develop or to make customizations to the modules like iprocurement,iStore etc.
I would like to know what is the best way to start the learning process?
Is it possible to learn/practice the OAF framework(from oracle applications perspective) on my personal machine( it has oracle 10g personal edition installed), with out having access to oracle applications instance?
I would like to know if there are any good books/tutorials on OAF usage in Oracle applications?
Please let me know.
-Thanks in Advance,
Satya

I would like to know what level of oracle application access do we need to practice the OAF development ?
You need full access, including sysadmin responsibility.Do we need to have access to instance in terms of unix servers or just access to the applications is good enough?
It would be good to have Unix access , for deploying pages , classes etc.Do we need to create any new responisbilities to practice OAF concepts?
Not required, but a better option.What resposibilities or what level of access do we need to have on oracle application instance to practice OAF concepts?
It is better to have a unrestricted access.Thanks
Tapash

Learning curve for a non techie-Business Catalyst. Two specific questions.

Hello everyone,
Thanks for reading. I am a non techie who is looking at website development as a secondary skill.ie. having the know how to atleast relay my ideas to web developers and ideally to be able to tweak and in the end able to create my own websites.
In this regard, I feel Business Catalyst is an excellent tool, for people like me which mitiagtes the knowledge of coding to an certain extent. I am currently going through some of the content listed in the forums. Is there a book that provides end to end detailed steps of all the implementation to complete a fully functioning website and how much is the learning curve in this regard?
Also,
Business Catalyst offers all in one features, is it possible to use 3rd party in place of default tools for specific function, say use wordpress for blog and a different email marketing service?
Have a good one.
Thanks
Satish

I personally would tend to prefer wordpress for a small non-commercial website/blog. Its ecosystem of plugins is far more diverse than BCs and you get direct access to the code if you want. BC's blog and forum modules seem somewhat like afterthoughts designed by marketers for marketing, and there's some unevenness to the way they implement what HTML and templates you have access to and what you don't in different context, so to a degree wordpress gives you more fine-grain control over a site.
The transverse of this is that with open source software you don't necessarily have the quality control or guarantee of long-term maintenance that you might with BC. Business Catalyst is far more initially optimized for business (obviously) and its servers can likely experience a higher load and greater uptime than you might get on a typical hosting service with wordpress.
Wordpress is kind of notorious for being hackable, mostly because of its ubiquity, although if you work on it it can be secured to a reasonable degree I think -- I'm not aware of any security issues regarding Business Catalyst, apart from recent issues with the captcha and spam which might have been resolved with Akismet and Recaptcha (both of which you can also get on Wordpress obviously) but personally I don't like having all of my accounts linked with a single Adobe username/password.
But then again, I have to trust that Adobe has their **** together and there isn't some festering zero-day sitting at the heart of all of it because the price you pay for playing in BC's sandbox is just that -- it's their sandbox. They're not releasing the code. If you can't change it with an existing module setting or can't hack around with with javascript then complaining until they fix it's your only option.
In short, I think it depends on your needs. Neither is entirely the wrong answer, and both have their issues. I've been just as frustrated with some of the rendering bugs and limitations in BC as I have with the way Wordpress (IMHO) overdoes abstraction while simultaneously sticking with its horrendous code-and-content mixing template style. If you have inventory and need to push stock and don't really care about mucking around with server-side code or anything really complex than BC will probably work for you, and of course there are always sites like bcgurus and these forums to help out with edge cases.

Free Version of JDeveloper for OAF development

Hi All,
I'm looking for the below patch of JDeveloper for OAF Development. Is there a free version available for learning/training purpose?
7237006 - R12 RUP6 for ATG Product Family(R12.ATG_PF.A.DELTA.6)
Regards,
MK

I'm looking for the below patch of JDeveloper for OAF Development. Is there a free version available for learning/training purpose?
7237006 - R12 RUP6 for ATG Product Family(R12.ATG_PF.A.DELTA.6)
You need to have a valid MOS username/password and CSI number to download this patch (Patch 7523554 10G Jdeveloper With OA Extension ARU for R12 RUP6) from MOS website.
How to find the correct version of JDeveloper to use with eBusiness Suite 11i or Release 12.x [ID 416708.1]
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Hussein

Dreamweaver & Flash Learning Curve

Hello!
OK Firstly sorry for the long posting!. I am learning CS3 Flash + Dream weaver, a experienced Illustrator and Photoshop user. In the process of creating a web site, and I would really appreciate a heads-up with any top tips or suggestions to help my learning curve!.
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down featuring changing flash background elements and text in dream weaver
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I would like to change to help navigate the user through the 75% featured area.
Hope that kind of makes sense?
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Blank screen with a symbol to click to enter the web site.
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Playing a few frames continuously until a button is clicked
25% navigation area appears after the animation has played once
revealing buttons and one button glowing to navigate the user.
On clicking the button the 75% area is replaced with a slide in motion
Graphic occupying the complete background 75% space. The idea is
to appear as if you are moving forward from the left screen format edge
to the right edge. Across all five buttons the same slide in motion
will occur with a different background graphic. Across all 5 navigated
areas I would like to feature copy in Dream weaver (rather than as part of
the animated file) My design is currently using Helvetica Regular
14 point and leading 24 point. How can I create text in Dreamweaver
with the design. Or should I place type in my flash file?
Are there any templates I could use to achieve this effect?
Any top tips creating a site like this from scratch?
My design layout is currently in Illustrator and Photoshop CS3
So looking to utilize CS3; new compatible program features.
Flash Animation Question?. I would like to create a blink effect
Revealing an image. For instance the word CHOCOLATE
Appears and vanishes with a blinking motion. Any suggestions?
Search Engine Friendly
The reason for using text in Dreamweaver was to try and achieve
Optimum search results. Ideally this is the way I would like to go
And would appreciate help with my limited knowledge.
If I call my site CHOCOLATE, rather than my not very well know name
Will this have a greater search engine impact?. My domain name is (XXX CHOCOLATE)
Can I paste Keywords in the background as blind text to impact on my
Search results?
Any top tips in naming files, can I save image files as key word names
For instance.. CHOCOLATE LOVE BELGIUM CHOCOLATE etc
Once again really appreciate any help to aid the learning curve!

A lot of tutorials are currently on youtube.com
I've found this link to be very helpful.
http://youtube.com/user/tutvid
good luck

Bought my first Mac and am curious about the learning curve for FCE HD

After 30+ years in the DOS/Windows/PC world, I've ordered my first Mac -- a Mac Pro -- with Final Cut Express HD.
I was wondering if other switchers could give me an idea of the kind of learning curve I'm looking at. I have used Sony Vegas Video almost exclusively for the past 5-6 years.
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I have no experience with Vegas so don't know what the similarities and differences will be.
People like Tom Wolsky (the main contributor to this forum) will be able to advise you on that.
I came from Premiere 6.5 and found the transition reasonably quick and pain-free.
I would suggest that you get an editing workshop book. Tom has written several but of course you will need FCE 3.5.
He guides you easily step by step from the complete basics (connecting the camera etc.) to a high level of editing skill.
http://www.fcpbook.com/FCE%20HD%203.5%20Editing%20Workshop.html
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Ian.

Bought and installing Logic X hope to use all my Pro Tools Stuff with Logic X to reduce the learning curve

Bought and installing Logic X hope to use all my Pro Tools Stuff with Logic X to reduce the learning curve for my Wife who is not very computer savy All her music is 96K and degitized with Pro Tools from analoge 16track tape.

mende1 wrote:
Welcome to Apple Support Communities
Apple offered a refund for users who purchased Logic Pro 9 30 days or less before the Logic Pro X launch, but they don't do it anymore, so if you want to upgrade to Logic Pro X, you have to purchase it in the Mac App Store
Part of this is incorrect...
Some App Store employee's "accidentally" (but in good faith) issued refunds to a few users who had purchased Logic 9 within 30 days prior to the mid-July release of Logic-X. Word quickly came down from Apple HQ that this was against App Store policy and the practice was immediately stopped.
To the original poster.. you never stood a chance, even if they were issuing refunds you didn't fall within the 30 day period. There were many who purchased Logic 9 a few days before the LX release who did not get a refund.

How steep is the learning curve for InDesign?

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I am a book author and previous works are out of print. I have scanned and digitized the books but need to revise and re-print several that are filled with color photos, using on-dermand technology. SOem of these books will also be pub;ished as e-books with embedded features like videos. Is it silly for me to try to learn how to lay out and prepare for printing a 200+ page book, or is the learning curve so steep that I am better off hiring an agency to do this work? I have never used Pagemaker so this is a whole new experience for me. Need advice PLEASE! THANKS to all - Joel

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I used to teach InDesign at my local community college. We offered regular semester-long courses which were worthwhile and some six-hour classes that were a joke. I teach the production staff of the student newspaper what they need to know to produce that particular project in an afternoon, but they don't get fluent for a few weeks, and they'd mostly be lost, even after a semester, if asked to branch out to something new like a book.
You mention your books will get distibution in electronic format instead of or in addition to print, and that's an additional layer of complexity to learn (and you really need to understand the requirements and the limitations for producing electronic publications, in my opinion, before starting your project if you want everything to go smoothly). I think the question isn't so much how steep is the curve, but will you enjoy the climb, or do you just want to get to the top as quickly as possible. If you're not sure, download the trial (Ok, folks, I know one of you bookmarked where the CS5 trials are hidden for the next couple of weeks) and take it for a spin so you have a better idea waht you're in for before you shell out the big bucks.

PureMVC, and the learning curve. Please share your thougths

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So I have decided to get my head wrapped around the PUREMVC framework. It has been a week and yes some of it makes sense yet I still struggle with it. I would like to know if anyone else share the same sentiments as I do. I have been able to find couple online tutorial on it, but this one makes more sense than others:
http://hubflanger.com/building-a-flash-site-using-puremvc/
What advice can you pass with regard to overcoming the learning curve. The more I try absorbing it, the more frustrated I get.
Thanks a lot.

i've used the mvc design pattern (not puremvc) in projects and i'm learning to code for the iphone (which uses the mvc design pattern) and i still find it adds more hurdles than than it overcomes.
so, i wouldn't feel badly about struggling with that particular implementation of mvc. and like everything, the more you work on something more you'll understand. but the benefits of using a design pattern come in the future (maybe). not while you're working on a project (unless it's collaborative).

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I hope this link would be helpful for you books For web developer Using Flash by "William Sanders"
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Is there any Documentation frame work for OAF development

hi
Is there any Documentation frame work for OAF development like AIM Documentation for RICE components ?
Hence , it is very clear that, MD50 and MD70 template is not for the OAF java development.
Is there any need to document the oaf development, hence it is using MVC architecture and all the components of the OAF development is very transparent.
thanks

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Bad Link on Beginner Developer Learning Center

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Dream weaver Learning Curve!

Hello! OK Firstly sorry for the long posting!. I am learning
CS3 Flash + Dreamweaver, a experienced Illustrator and Photoshop
user. In the process of creating a website, and I would really
appreciate a heads-up with any top tips or suggestions to help my
learning curve!.
DESIGN DESCRPTION
Screen Format 720px (L) 650px (W) Is this OK or should I
consider a different dimension?
Site Frame Structure
The rectangle format will be 75% from the top edge to
two-thirds down featuring changing flash background elements and
text in dreamweaver related to clicked buttons. The remaining 25%
will be the navigation area with a static background graphic
constant through out the site with animated flash buttons that
would like to change to help navigate the user through the 75%
featured area. Hope that kind of makes sense?
Based on that I can now try explain what I would like to
achieve. Blank screen with a symbol to click to enter the website.
75% area is seen as a flash animation and plays once
completely. Playing a few frames continuously until a button is
clicked 25% navigation area appears after the animation has played
once revealing buttons and one button glowing to navigate the user.
On clicking the button the 75% area is replaced with a slide
in motion Graphic occupying the complete background 75% space. The
idea is to appear as if you are moving forward from the left screen
format edge to the right edge. Across all five buttons the same
slide in motion will occur with a different background graphic.
Across all 5 navigated areas I would like to feature copy in
Dreamweaver (rather than as part of the animated file) My design is
currently using Helvetica Regular
14 point and leading 24 point. How can I create text in
Dreamweaver with the design. Or should I place type in my flash
file?
Are there any templates I could use to achieve this effect?
Any top tips creating a site like this from scratch?
My design layout is currently in Illustrator and Photoshop
CS3. Looking to utilize CS3; new compatible program features.
Flash Animation Question?. I would like to create a blink
effect Revealing an image. For instance the word CHOCOLATE
Appears and vanishes with a blinking motion. Any suggestions?
Search Engine Friendly
The reason for using text in Dreamweaver was to try and
achieve Optimum search results. Ideally this is the way I would
like to go, and would appreciate help with my limited knowledge.
If I call my site CHOCOLATE, rather than my not very well
know name, will this have a greater search engine impact?. My
domain name is (XXX CHOCOLATE)
Can I paste Keywords in the background as blind text to
impact on my Search results?
Any top tips in naming files, can I save image files as key
word names For instance.. CHOCOLATE LOVE… BELGIUM CHOCOLATE
etc
Once again really appreciate any help to aid the learning
curve!

> Hello! OK Firstly sorry for the long posting!. I am
learming CS3 Flash +
> Dreamweaver, a experienced Illustrator and Photoshop
user. In the process
> of
> creating a website, and I would really appreciate a
heads-up with any top
> tips
> or suggestions to help my learning curve!.
Don't learn 'dreamweaver'. Learn HTML and CSS. THEN
Dreamweaver will make
sense intuitively.
> DESIGN DESCRPTION
> Screen Format 720px (L) 650px (W) Is this OK or should I
consider a
> different
> dimension?
Screens come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. As do web
browsers. If you
must pick a specific width, 720px is fine. Don't worry about
height. People
can scroll just fine.
> Site Frame Structure
If my frame you mean HTML Framesets, rethink that. Frames are
usually a bad
idea.
> buttons that
> I would like to change to help navigate the user through
the 75% featured
> area.
Unless this is entirely a flash web site, avoid flash-based
navigation. It's
less accessible, less Google friendly, and much more work to
maintain.
> Blank screen with a symbol to click to enter the
website.
Why start with a blank screen? Just let them get to the home
page to begin
with.
> On clicking the button the 75% area is replaced with a
slide in motion
> Graphic occupying the complete background 75% space. The
idea is
> to appear as if you are moving forward from the left
screen format edge
> to the right edge.
At this point, it really seems like you are making a Flash
presentation
moreso than an HTML web site. As such, you might have better
luck asking
these questions in the Flash newsgroup.
> Search Engine Friendly
Basic rule of thumb: The more flash you use, the less
search-engine-friendly
your site will be. You CAN make Flash search-engine-friendly,
but it takes
work and knowledge.
> If I call my site CHOCOLATE, rather than my not very
well know name
> Will this have a greater search engine impact?. My
domain name is (XXX
> CHOCOLATE)
If you use the term 'choclate' then people searching for
'chocolate' would
be more likely to find you than if you didn't use that term.
That said,
'chocolate' is a pretty generic term. As is 'xxx'
> Can I paste Keywords in the background as blind text to
impact on my
> Search results?
That will likely hurt your search results. Google considers
that a form of
spamming.
-Darrel

Learning curve / path from Go Live! to Dreamweaver; is it worth it?

Learning curve / path from Go Live! to Dreamweaver; is it worth it?

I'll be blunt, it's not worth "learning Dreamweaver" at all, if you don't understand html, css and basic javascripting prior to opening the program.
Without those three things, DW becomes a monstrous time sink that allows you to produce rudimentary websites that your viewers and peers will scoff at.
Now, if you do understand HTML and CSS (and to a lesser extent, javascript) running the DW tutorials from the Adobe site (hit F1 while in DW to open the Help site) will help you get up and running in no time and you'll be able to create some fairly advanced sites relatively quickly with current internet standards-compliant code.
If you don't understand code and refuse to educate yourself, as Ben says, Muse would be the way to go.

Pro Tools to Logic Pro Learning Curve?

I currently use Pro Tools LE 8.0.1 with the original MBox but am about to upgrade my interface and know I have many options. I've been told that I'd get more bang for the buck by getting whichever interface I want and going with Logic Pro instead of PT. From a financial standpoint, that makes sense, since I've seen PT 10 selling for something like $500 or $600. For those of you who've gone from PT to Logic, was it a huge learning curve? Do you prefer it? I do voiceover and simple songwriting "scratch" demos, and that's all - no finals for music and only occasionally, for voiceover. I honestly don't need anything with a million bells and whistles, but want more than Garage Band. What's your take on this?
Thanks,
Annie

The thing that I advise you is to approach to Logic with the "logic of Logic".
Do not make the mistake of trying to do the same things you did on ProTools at the same way you do on ProTools.
Logic is a bomb, deserves to be interpreted in the right way. Once done, you never go back.
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