OBIEE v/s Cognos or Business objects

Can anyone tell me the main advantages of OBIEE over its competitors (Cognos, BO ...etc)?

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Cognos/Business objects books need

Hi all,
I am new to learn the Cognos/BO. Please kindly post the path which easily to learn the concepts for the Cognos and Business objects. Please do needful

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Are you sure you're asking this in the correct forum. Or better: in the forum of the correct vendor? Unless Larry went berzerk and bought both IBM (Cognos) and SAP (Business Objects) ;-)

How to extract Cognos Data into Business Objects?

Hi All,
I would like to know whether anyway to pull Cognos data into Business Objects?
1. Pull data thru Universe from Cognos Cubes?
2. Pull data using Crystal reports from Cognos Cubes?
3. Or any otehr method of pulling data from Cognos Cubes?
If nothing is possible I would have to explore using the RDBMS Tables to build Universe, WebI and then present in Xcelsius. Anybody is aware of getting data from Cognos?
Thanks in advance.
Alex.

Cognos Reporting on SAP BI data
We need to create a new project to import the structure of the SAP BI cube or Multiprovider.
Enter User ID and password.
Click on OK
It will ask you to enter the User ID and password again. After enter the User ID and password it will ask you to select the language.
Then it will ask you to select the metadata source, select the Data source as shown in below fig. and click next.
Select the data Source as shown in below.
Here we are planning to import SAP BW cube so we have to select SAP BW and click on next.
Select sign on and Click on OK.
Here we have to select our desired cube or multiprovider and click next.
Now we have to select the language again.
Here Cognos is giving the flexibility to use different options when importing cube structures.
Here I am selecting to use the technical name of the objects and to bring same model as it is in SAP BI.
Finally it will show list of all objects which are imported from SAP BI.
When you click on finish it will take to the frame work manager. There you will see the SAP BI Cube Structure.
Now it is exactly imported like SAP BW extended star schema model.
Here you can compare the technical names of the dimensions in both in Cognos and SAP BI is same.
         COGNOS    Model                                         SAP BI Cube model
Here I am comparing the values of the info Objects with in one dimension.
               Cognos Model                                                   SAP BI Model
If there are any hierarchies in BI, it will form separately as shown in below fig.
When you open the main object of Program definition, we will find 3 objects under this.
It is always recommendable to use Level 01 objects.
This is how it looks when you open all the above 3 objects. You can use any of those depends on your report requirement.
When you open the info object if you see number of different items, that means this info object has got attributes in it.
0COMP_CODE is the technical name of the info object in BI.
In Cognos if it technical name starts with 1  Short Text of the Info Object.
                                                                   2  Key of the Info Object.
                                                                   4  Long Text of the Info Object.
                                                         5  Medium Text of the Info Object.
LELEL00  Is Summarized values.
LEVEL01  Is Item level values of Info Object.
Once you see this in bw/bi environment, i hope you know how to gather and use it in BOBJ environment !!

Business Objects to pull Cognos data

Hi All,
I would like to know whether anyway to pull Cognos data into Business Objects?
1. Pull data thru Universe from Cognos Cubes?
2. Pull data using Crystal reports from Cognos Cubes?
3. Or any otehr method of pulling data from Cognos Cubes?
If nothing is possible I would have to explore using the RDBMS Tables to build Universe, WebI and then present in Xcelsius. Anybody is aware of getting data from Cognos?
Thanks in advance.
Alex.

You need to create a universe based on the RDBMS source. Look at the COGNOS data flow to create universe. Have you found any other leads?

Business Objects and Cognos 8 Controller integration

Hello,
I have a requirement where we need to report Cognos Controller data in Business Objects more specifically our client would like
to explore Cognos Controller data using Business Objects Explorer. I don't have any idea how data is stored in Cognos etc.,
We need to integrate Business Objects and Cognos in some way. Do we have any integration kit for this?
I would appreciate if anyone would share some ideas experiences on this.
Thanks

only way would be an ODBC driver

How to migrating from Business Objects to OBIEE

Hi,
I have one query is it possible migrating from Business objects to OBIEE ? if, yes could you tell me any one regarding this requirement.
Advance Thanks.

Hi,
I don't have any documentation link , we need to design rpd based on BO Universe and BO reports functionality.
first observe what are the physical tables used in universe those physical tables improted into physical layer of obiee rpd give physical joins. In BMM layer design hierarchies, calculations and outerjoins all these things done in BMM layer thats it.
Regards,
Naresh

Business Objects and OBIEE

Hi,
Can some one please explain me what are Oracle Business Objects and how is it different to Oracle Business intelligence Enterprise edition.
Also please point me to Oracle Business Objects Documentation.
Appreciate your help on this.
Thanks,
Kiran

Kiran,
Jokes aside, Theres a few documents on how Oracle partner with Business Objects but there is no "Oracle Business Objects" BI product, at least up until end of last year before I left Oracle Consulting BI practice.
Yes SAP Business Objects connects and supports Oracle 10G database functionality, but that would be Oracle DB, not Oracle BI EE.
I seriously doubt they would launch ANOTHER BI tool with the same application name as a competitor?
I hope you can get the information you are seeking.

Replacing Business Objects - Modelling Issue

I'm working on a large 'BI' project that is replacing Business Objects with OBIEE ( actually its not really a BI project its more of a give us what we've got now using OBIEE project ) - which is proving challenging in some areas.
One example is with the Data Model that BO provides in its Universe, the model I'm replacing is pretty much 3NF (even though it uses DIM and FACT in the table names) they're joined pretty much all over the place, which enables the users to select from tables which can be 4,5,6 steps away from the original - including via M:M relationships!
Anyway one specific issue is based around the old question of multiple fact tables where not all dimensions are conformed.
Dim - Business Manager ---< Fact - Forecast >----- Dim - Product -----< Fact - Actuals >------ Dim Salesman
I've setup the Dimensions for each Dimension Logical Table.
I've created a single logical table containing a Forecast and Actual Amount from the 2 fact tables and set the logical levels appropriately at Table Level. For the Forecast measure I have a logical level set to 'Total - Salesman' and for the Actuals measure I have logical level set to 'Total - Business Manager'.
This works great when I select an Attribute from Business Manager, and Salesman and both of the measures in the Answer.
However the users want to be able to select from Business Manager, and Salesman dimensions without selecting the measures, is this possible - do I need to add a bridging table to resolve the relationships between a Business Manager and Salesman explicitly rather than implicitly via the facts?
I have set Implict Fact at the Presentation Model, however this doesn't work (it misses off Total Level aggregation in the OBI Server SQL).
Thanks in advance for any suggestions/answers.

Thanks for the helpful reply Turribeach, along with the interesting and informative link.
This is my first foray into the world of BO and I think some of the points you make in the link are right on the money. I've spent many years working with Oracle Tools (Dataquery,Data Browser, Discoverer and then OBIEE when Oracle acquired the tool ). There are difficulties in the modeling with OBIEE, certainly when it comes to trying to replicate a 'fairly' complex BO universe they become apparent.
Many hoops to jump through to give the user a like for like, which I'm not convinced will be possible - maybe some negotiation is required :-)

To download cognos 8 business intelligence ...........................

Hi all,
can anyone tell me where can i download cognos 8 business intelligence software for free like informatica,business objects. i know this is not a right place to put this question..as i need to get working practices on that tool please let me know..thanks in advance..
regards,
siva k

Cognos 8 Business Intelligence
http://www.cognos.com/products/cognos8businessintelligence/index.html
If you cannot find the download link, please contact IBM support.

Hyperion to Business Objects Migration

Hi All,
Do we have any tool that would help us migrating/converting hyperion reports to Business Objects WEBI reports? The BO environment would be XI R3. Thanks!
- Noman Jaffery

Hello Noman,
i dont know if there is someting available.
I heared "rumors" that there are tools for converting Cognos Reports to BO reports. But you only get this assistance when you open a OSS Message. But i really dont know if this is true.
Maybe you can raise an OSS Message at SAP to ask for assistance.
Regards
-Seb.

Connect Business Objects to Essbase 7.1.x

Hi,
Has anyone ever successfully connected Business Objects to Essbase 7.1.x? If so, was it worth it? Also, where does the Essbase Runtime Client need to be installed?
Thanks,
Sam

Hi Sam,
I have connect BO & Cognos to Essbase cubes. It depends on the type of reporting you are doing on whether it is worth it or not. If you want faster ad hoc reporting via BO connected to your cube, it's worth it.
Client would be installed on your machine.
What version of BO would you be connecting to? XI? Web connectivity?
Sarah

Business Objects TO OBI conversion

Hi,
We are planning to convert Business Objects to OBI( reporting).
We are new to OBI.
Let me know how can we proceed
Please advice!!
Cheers..

You need to create a universe based on the RDBMS source. Look at the COGNOS data flow to create universe. Have you found any other leads?

Interface Settings Error, Business Objects Planning, Templates

Hello all,
I am getting an error in interface settings whenever I have tried to run a template.
I have searched these forums and wikis and been googling for days and have not found anything even remotely relevant.
This company is using Business Objects Planning, version 11.10.1325.0
Platform is Windows Server 2003 SP2. Excel version 11.0
They have been using BOP for two years. They have been manually copying actuals data (i.e. historic data) into the template-derived workbooks for budget and forecast and them saving them for users. The consultants did not leave them with templates that loaded historic data from the SQL server, nor did the consultants even tell them about write-back (save-to-database) reports (which are what I am used to building).
In the short term I have been asked to get their templates working properly.
A week ago I logged a request with the consultants (SAP gold partners) but have yet to hear back.
We have tried starting at the basics and building a very simple template that follows the examples given in the users guide.
(i.e. the Planning Professional Edition Plan Administrators Guide, note that the consultants did not leave copies of the guides that matched the BOP version, so I downloaded the correct editions for this installation, but the basics are the same.)
So I have a template that has account ("ACC" for this organisation, "ACCT" in the Guide) in cell A1.
Row 1 then contains the Other Column to write back to in cell E1 (ESourcePY for this test), and Row 1 is even coloured pastel green.
Row 2 is coloured pastel yellow just like in the Guide and contains "Control Row for Interface" in cell B2 and the Time Series to read from in cell E2 - SSANYB_TOT, which basically means NYB_TOT for this company.
Rows 3 - 6 are coloured purple and cell B3 holds "Summary Print control Row". I have tried "SRCPrintControl" in cell H3 and I have tried without it. I have tried "Monthly Print Control Row" in B4 and I have tried without it (and SRCPrintControl in H4).
And then I have a number of natural accounts in cells A21:A24, I have tried using just one ACC and I have tried them on different lines, but in the end I put them on the same line as the ones in the Guide start at.
I have also tried with and without "HDR" in the cells in the H column.
My Settings sheet has been exactly as the one in the Guide, and I have tried with only a Summary in the Printing section, deleting the Monthly stuff, I have also tried changing the Border Columns and Rows but I am not too sure that is relevant.
The relevant sheet in the Interface Setting book is exactly as the one in the Guide but using the local Time Series and Target Sheet Name etc., although I have tried using the write-back target (ESourcePY) Other Column in the Target Column Name instead of SSANYB_TOT as shown in the Guide.
There is one difference; this organisation is not using Standard Planning Methodologies (no client I have seen uses them) and so that cell (B11) is empty.
But all I ever get, no matter how many variations or modification I try is :
"Error in interface settings of Default Interface interface on control row or column in temp1 sheet. Do you want to continue?"
Can anybody please shed some light on what is missing?
Thanks in advance,
Kai
P.S. This seems to lose all format/structure when uploaded, but it is all in paragraphs with white space when I write/edit it.
Edited by: Kai Richmond on Feb 22, 2010 6:00 AM

NOT ANSWERED
But a month and no answer means that obviously no-one on this planet, including the SAP help desk, knows the answer.
Business Objects used to have a really good help desk based in Singapore. Yeah, their consultant partners in Australia were not very good, but the help desk was very helpful and proactive.
Now that SAP has acquired the product the 'gold partners' are still useless but the SAP help desk is just a joke. The help 'portal' is just a door to a void, the responses are very tardy, and the majority of the points they raise have already been answered by me in previous communications to the same staffer. Obviously they don't read your replies.
I have already advised one client away from purchasing this product and I cannot see how in good conscience I could ever recommend BOP (or SAP) to any client in the future. Cognos is good, but IBM has no mainframe finance package; so I think that Oracle and Hyperion Planning are probably going to be the way of the future now.
Edited by: Kai Richmond on Mar 17, 2010 12:43 PM

Data federator in business objects

Hi,
What is the use of data federator in business objects.
Regards,
G

HI,
The only option in this case is to 1) use Business Objects' Data Federator to bring XYZ data and BW (new) data together, 2) creating a relational universe, and 3) creating Crystal / WEBI reports using the relational universe; see Picture 1.
>> You can also combine the data by using a MultiProvider in BW which is access the data in BW and the data in the legacy system and an additional alternative is to move all the data into BW.
After 20 years goes by, and we no longer need to report on data housed in XYZ anymore, the environment will be turned off.
1) When this happens, wouldn't we want to remove Data Federator and the relational universe from the scenario ?
>> That depends on the approach you took
Ingo

SAP Log on into Business Objects server not working (Error FWB 00014)

Hello,
I recently installed Business Objects XI 3.1 Edge series, I am able to logon to enterprise and everything is working fine. I am even able to import roles from SAP system but I have two problems.
1. Logging on to enterprise using SAP user: I am getting the following error message when I choose SAP in the Athentication and enter SAP username and password and click log on.
"Account Information Not Recognized: All of your system's 0 Concurrent Access Licenses are in use at this time or your system's license key has expired. Try again later or contact your administrator to obtain additional licenses. (FWB 00014)".
2. Logging on to SAP system through SAP Logon pad: When I enter my username and passord in SAP system from the same server as I installed BusinessObjects I am getting a run time error.
Did any one of you had the same problem or does any one of you have any clue how to solve this?
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
I assume that you have a key for named licences (You can check this in the CMC under Licence keys).
What you need to do is to go in the CMC, navigate to Authentication->SAP->Options and select the Named users option.
Regards,
Stratos

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