OCMJEA: mandatory course attendance requirement if you have previous cert.

Now for Oracle Certified Master, Java EE 5 Enterprise Architect it is necessary do a mandatory course. The list of available courses for this certification is: (between others)
Java Programming Language, Java SE 6
Developing Applications for the Java EE 6 Platform
Building Database Driven Applications with JPA
Business Component Development with EJB Technology, Java EE 5
Business Component Development with EJB Technology, Java EE 6
Creating Web Services Using Java(TM) Technology
Developing Applications for the Java EE 5 Platform
EJB 3.0 Technology Update Workshop for Version 2.x Developers
Web Component Development with Servlets & JSPs, Java EE 5
Web Component Development with Servlets & JSPs, Java EE 6
Java Programming Language
But some topics of these mandatory courses are included in other certifications, for example:
Oracle Certified Professional Java Programmer
Oracle Certified Professional, Java EE 5 Web Component Developer
Oracle Certified Professional, Java EE 5 Business Component Developer
The question is, if you have any of this certifications and you want to prepare the exam for Java EE 5 Enterprise Architect, it is necessary do a training course?
For example, if you are an already Oracle Certified Professional Java Programmer Java SE 6 and you want prepare the exam for Java EE Architect, why must be necessary do a training course like "Java Programming Language, Java SE 6" ?
Regards.

kerule wrote:
Now for Oracle Certified Master, Java EE 5 Enterprise Architect it is necessary do a mandatory course. The list of available courses for this certification is: (between others)
Java Programming Language, Java SE 6
Developing Applications for the Java EE 6 Platform
Java Programming Language
But some topics of these mandatory courses are included in other certifications, for example:
Oracle Certified Professional Java Programmer
Oracle Certified Professional, Java EE 5 Web Component Developer
Oracle Certified Professional, Java EE 5 Business Component Developer
The question is, if you have any of this certifications and you want to prepare the exam for Java EE 5 Enterprise Architect, it is necessary do a training course?
The answer from http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=449 is that an approved training course must have been attended and verified to be awarded the certification.
For example, if you are an already Oracle Certified Professional Java Programmer Java SE 6 and you want prepare the exam for Java EE Architect, why must be necessary do a training course like "Java Programming Language, Java SE 6" ?
The above link indicates that for a PERSON 'Oracle Certified Professional Java Programmer Java SE 6' in is not NESCESSARY for you to submit THE training course "Java Programming Language, Java SE 6" however it is necessary you submit a training course from the list.
The range of courses are generally presented so there is hopefully opportunity for most people to be able to choose a training course in an area where they are not totally knowledable already .... IMHO Oracle is trying to avoid the need for people to take a training course in an area that they are already familiar with.
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Regards.Note probably revelevant, but you may also wish to view.
Other links that may be of interest:
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=326
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=516
Aside: Certiifcation Forum Moderator may care to note the 'Java Programming Language, Java SE 6' is comon to both Oracle Certified Master, Java SE 6 Developer and Oracle Certified Master, Java EE 5 Enterprise Architect .... dows this mean attending this training course (once) is sufficient for both certifications? ... On the Oracle DBA Side for example a course used at OCP may not be reused for OCM.

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