OCP training

Hello Everyone,
I have cleared OCA 10g and now wants to appear in the OCP 10g but as per the guideline I need to take Oracle Training , so I like to know whether I am eligible to appear in the exam and get the certificate OCP certificate.
Pls give some advice..
Thanx
AKG

Hi,
You can take the Exam but for the OCP certification you need to do a Hands on Course. For more details plz visit\
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=244#3
Thnx,
Mr.R
Edited by: Mr.R on 12-Aug-2010 00:21

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