Ocr & voting disk lost

Hi,
Learning about RAC..........please anyone reply it
If ocr & voting is lost means, is the database lost some datas? Is it correct?
For Ex: I had backup of OCR ,VOTING DISK which is taken at 3 Am.
Now 3.45 Am I lost current(running) ocr file ( mirror also) & voting disk.
I lost 45 minutes data?

Hi,
OCR Maintains cluster configuration information as well as configuration information about any cluster database within the cluster. OCR is the repository of configuration information for the cluster that manages information about like the cluster node list and instance-to-node mapping information.
VD primary function of the voting disk is to manage node membership and prevent what is known as Split Brain Syndrome in which two or more instances attempt to control the RAC database.
So looking into above functionality we can understand that the above are conf files and not actual data files. So you database does not lost.
Secondly, try to hold a replica copy of OCR/VD and make backups in time.
- Pavan Kumar N

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Dear Friends,
I am using 10g R2 RAC serup on Linux
My OCR,Voting Disk and ASM Disk for DBF Files are on a SAN box
Now i am reorganising SAN by scrapping the entire SAN and cretaing new LUN's (It's a must)
so pleae let me know
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I will be doing it in Planned downtime only
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For step 1 you should following metalink doc.
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I have done this in windows for you.
D:\app\ranjit\product\11.2.0\dbhome_1\BIN>rman target /
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Copyright (c) 1982, 2009, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
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How to determine raw disks configured for OCR/voting disk, ASM spfile

I have a two-node Oracle 10gR2 RAC configuration using raw disks. Basically, raw disks are used for CRS's OCR/voting disks, ASM's ASM spfile and disk groups.
Is there a better way to figure out what raw disks are configured in Oracle using methods other than those shown below:
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Status of Oracle Cluster Registry is as follows :
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- Is there a way to figure out what disk device is used for ASM spfile?
- To find out raw disks configured for disk groups:
while connected to the ASM instance in sqlplus:
SQL> select name,path from v$asm_disk where name like 'DG%';
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DG_DC_ASM_0000
/dev/rhdiskpower13
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DG_DC_ASM_0002
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Ocr & voting disk in 11g

Is it true that ocr and voting disks can be created on ASM in 11g? If yes, during RAC startup how would the crs which starts first be able to access ocr & voting disk on asm which comes up only after crs is up and running.
Thanks

user1824755 wrote:
Is it true that ocr and voting disks can be created on ASM in 11g? If yes, during RAC startup how would the crs which starts first be able to access ocr & voting disk on asm which comes up only after crs is up and running.With 11gr2, you have essentially 2 installs. Grid Infrastructure - that is recommended to be installed in a different o/s user (e.g. grid). This owns the (integrated) CRS and ASM software stack. You will then install RAC/EE/SE as the default oracle o/s user. You can also install it in the same o/s user (using different homes). But separating that instead as different o/s users allows more flexibility in management and admin and security of these different s/w stacks.
CRS and ASM start "together" because of their interdependency.
With OCR and Voting disks on ASM, you will now find that you cannot simply stop ASM like in the past. ASM will thrown an exception saying that it has in-use diskgroups - despite all Oracle db instances using ASM being down. Thus ASM can only be shutdown in conjunction with CRS.. and successfully starting CRS also means that ASM is started. The acmcmd CLI interface has been improved, ACFS replaces the need for using something like OCFS (and managing that as a totally different s/w stack), etc.
ASM and its feature set are maturing very nicely IMO.

Create raw devices for OCR & Voting Disk for Oracle 10g R2 RACLinux 64 bit)

Hi Friends,
Please let me know the Document to cretae RAW Disk for OCR and Voting Disks (like rpm's required,process tio cretae raw disks) in Oracle 10g R2 on Linux (64 bit)
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DB

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Defining OCR / Voting disks

I followed this guide
http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/11g/OracleDB11gR2RACInstallationOnOEL5UsingVMwareServer2.php#install_grid_infrastructure
to install "clusterware" on my SLES11 maschines.
Question:
In 10g I were able to select which disks a for voting and which are for ocr.
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zekeriya, you are only right for Version 10. Things changed with Oracle 11. Now you cannot store vote and ocr on raw devices, only in ASM or a cluster filesystem. I know it is a chicken-and-egg problem and I have not quite understood how they do it but that's how things work now.
You can store voting disks and the OCR on Oracle Automatic Storage Management (Oracle ASM), or a certified cluster file system.See this link for more details
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E11882_01/rac.112/e10717/votocr.htm#CHDJDFIC
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OCR and voting disks on ASM, problems in case of fail-over instances

Hi everybody
in case at your site you :
- have an 11.2 fail-over cluster using Grid Infrastructure (CRS, OCR, voting disks),
where you have yourself created additional CRS resources to handle single-node db instances,
their listener, their disks and so on (which are started only on one node at a time,
can fail from that node and restart to another);
- have put OCR and voting disks into an ASM diskgroup (as strongly suggested by Oracle);
then you might have problems (as we had) because you might:
- reach max number of diskgroups handled by an ASM instance (63 only, above which you get ORA-15068);
- experiment delays (especially in case of multipath), find fake CRS resources, etc.
whenever you dismount disks from one node and mount to another;
So (if both conditions are true) you might be interested in this story,
then please keep reading on for the boring details.
One step backward (I'll try to keep it simple).
Oracle Grid Infrastructure is mainly used by RAC db instances,
which means that any db you create usually has one instance started on each node,
and all instances access read / write the same disks from each node.
So, ASM instance on each node will mount diskgroups in Shared Mode,
because the same diskgroups are mounted also by other ASM instances on the other nodes.
ASM instances have a spfile parameter CLUSTER_DATABASE=true (and this parameter implies
that every diskgroup is mounted in Shared Mode, among other things).
In this context, it is quite obvious that Oracle strongly recommends to put OCR and voting disks
inside ASM: this (usually called CRS_DATA) will become diskgroup number 1
and ASM instances will mount it before CRS starts.
Then, additional diskgroup will be added by users, for DATA, REDO, FRA etc of each RAC db,
and will be mounted later when a RAC db instance starts on the specific node.
In case of fail-over cluster, where instances are not RAC type and there is
only one instance running (on one of the nodes) at any time for each db, it is different.
All diskgroups of db instances don't need to be mounted in Shared Mode,
because they are used by one instance only at a time
(on the contrary, they should be mounted in Exclusive Mode).
Yet, if you follow Oracle advice and put OCR and voting inside ASM, then:
- at installation OUI will start ASM instance on each node with CLUSTER_DATABASE=true;
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even if you'll take care that they'll be mounted by one ASM instance at a time.
At our site, for our three-nodes cluster, this fact has two consequences.
One conseguence is that we hit ORA-15068 limit (max 63 diskgroups) earlier than expected:
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so 30 diskgroups each node, for a total of 90 diskgroups (30 instances) on the cluster;
- in case one node failed, surviving two should get resources of the failing node,
in the worst case: one node with 60 diskgroups (20 instances), the other one with 30 diskgroups (10 instances)
- in case two nodes failed, the only node survived should not be able to mount additional diskgroups
(because of limit of max 63 diskgroup mounted by an ASM instance), so all other would remain unmounted
and their db instances stopped (they are not Production instances);
But it didn't worked, since ASM has parameter CLUSTER_DATABASE=true, so you cannot mount 90 diskgroups,
you can mount 62 globally (once a diskgroup is mounted on one node, it is given a number between 2 and 63,
and other diskgroups mounted on other nodes cannot reuse that number).
So as a matter of fact we can mount only 21 diskgroups (about 7 instances) on each node.
The second conseguence is that, every time our CRS handmade scripts dismount diskgroups
from one node and mount it to another, there are delays in the range of seconds (especially with multipath).
Also we found inside CRS log that, whenever we mounted diskgroups (on one node only), then
behind the scenes were created on the fly additional fake resources
of type ora*.dg, maybe to accomodate the fact that on other nodes those diskgroups were left unmounted
(once again, instances are single-node here, and not RAC type).
That's all.
Did anyone go into similar problems?
We opened a SR to Oracle asking about what options do we have here, and we are disappointed by their answer.
Regards
Oscar

Hi Klaas-Jan
- best practises require that also online redolog files are in a separate diskgroup, in case of ASM logical corruption (we are a little bit paranoid): in case DATA dg gets corrupted, you can restore Full backup plus Archived RedoLog plus Online Redolog (otherwise you will stop at the latest Archived).
So we have 3 diskgroups for each db instance: DATA, REDO, FRA.
- in case of fail-over cluster (active-passive), Oracle provide some templates of CRS scripts (in $CRS_HOME/crs/crs/public) that you edit and change at your will, also you might create additionale scripts in case of additional resources you might need (Oracle Agents, backups agent, file systems, monitoring tools, etc)
About our problem, the only solution is to move OCR and voting disks from ASM and change pfile af all ASM instance (parameter CLUSTER_DATABASE from true to false ).
Oracle aswers were a litlle bit odd:
- first they told us to use Grid Standalone (without CRS, OCR, voting at all), but we told them that we needed a Fail-over solution
- then they told us to use RAC Single Node, which actually has some better features, in csae of planned fail-over it might be able to migreate
client sessions without causing a reconnect (for SELECTs only, not in case of a running transaction), but we already have a few fail-over cluster, we cannot change them all
So we plan to move OCR and voting disks into block devices (we think that the other solution, which needs a Shared File System, will take longer).
Thanks Marko for pointing us to OCFS2 pros / cons.
We asked Oracle a confirmation that it supported, they said yes but it is discouraged (and also, doesn't work with OUI nor ASMCA).
Anyway that's the simplest approach, this is a non-Prod cluster, we'll start here and if everthing is fine, after a while we'll do it also on Prod ones.
- Note 605828.1, paragraph 5, Configuring non-raw multipath devices for Oracle Clusterware 11g (11.1.0, 11.2.0) on RHEL5/OL5
- Note 428681.1: OCR / Vote disk Maintenance Operations: (ADD/REMOVE/REPLACE/MOVE)
-"Grid Infrastructure Install on Linux", paragraph 3.1.6, Table 3-2
Oscar

How do I define 2 disk groups for ocr and voting disks at the oracle grid infrastructure installation window

Hello,
It may sound too easy to someone but I need to ask it anyway.
I am in the middle of building Oracle RAC 11.2.0.3 on Linux. I have 2 storage and I created three LUNs in each of storage so 6 LUNs in total look in both of servers. If I choose NORMAL as a redundancy level, is it right to choose my 6 disks those are created for OCR_VOTE at the grid installation? Or should I choose only 3 of them and configure mirroring at latter stage?
The reason why I am asking this is that I didn't find any place to create asm disk group for ocr and voting disks at the oracle grid infrastructure installation window. In fact, I would to like to create two disk groups in which one of groups contains three disks those were brought from storage 1 and the second one contains rest three 3 disk that come from the last storage.
I believe that you will understand the manner and help me on choosing proper way.
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You have 2 Storage H/W.
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It will happen:
https://forums.oracle.com/message/9681811#9681811
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Hello,
We need to move OCR,voting disk and ASM from one storage media to another .I think ASM related files are very easy to move/re map but how OCR and Voting Disk files will be migrated to the new storage media?
Thanks,
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Hi,
when you said:
"Move Voting Disk : run as root.
crsctl query css votedisk
crsctl add css votedisk new_backup_san_device
crsctl query css votedisk - Make sure the new device is added
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crsctl query css votedisk - Make sure that the old one is removed "
I supose the new_backup_san_device could be a raw device??
In my system I have a 2 nodes cluster, oracle 10gR2, RAC and ASM
the ocr and voting disk are stored in /dev/raw/raw1 and /dev/raw/raw2
thoses 2 raw devices are mapped with LUNS in the first storade media.
We are about to change it..
So what must I do at this step? What are the logical steps I must done?
add the new LUNS in the nodes and map it as raw devices?
I have this at the moment:
crw-r----- 1 root oinstall 162, 1 Feb 8 17:33 /dev/raw/raw1
crw-r----- 1 root oinstall 162, 2 Feb 8 17:33 /dev/raw/raw2
crw-r----- 1 oracle oinstall 162, 3 Feb 8 17:33 /dev/raw/raw3
in the case of migration, I must add 3 new row devices?
as this?
crw-r----- 1 root oinstall 162, 1 Feb 8 17:33 /dev/raw/raw1
crw-r----- 1 root oinstall 162, 2 Feb 8 17:33 /dev/raw/raw2
crw-r----- 1 oracle oinstall 162, 3 Feb 8 17:33 /dev/raw/raw3
crw-r----- 1 root oinstall 162, 1 Feb 8 17:33 /dev/raw/raw4
crw-r----- 1 root oinstall 162, 2 Feb 8 17:33 /dev/raw/raw5
crw-r----- 1 oracle oinstall 162, 3 Feb 8 17:33 /dev/raw/raw6
That's it?
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If we do this activity these are the possible changes may occur.......
According to IBM there could be a possibility of RHDISK number , MAJOR and MINOR number changes LIKE /dev/rhdisk0 to /dev/rhdisk1 in this case
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for example currently our OCR LOCATION IS IN : Device/File Name : /dev/rhdisk23 this may change to /dev/rhdisk<25>
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From OCR and VOTING point of view :
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In this Scenario
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Regards,
Vamsi....

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Hi Champ,
There is one confusion for the OCR and Voting Disk.
In case my RAC is up and Running and There are 3 RAW partitions for the OCR as well.
and I dont know which partition is for which purpose?? how to Identify the partions which are for the OCR,Voting disk?
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DB version : 11g Release 2
Platform : Solaris 10
I understand it is not recommended in production. But for a test setup, is it technically possible to have OCR, Voting disk and spfile in one LUN (all these in one ASM disk group) ?

Max wrote:
DB version : 11g Release 2
Platform : Solaris 10
I understand it is not recommended in production. But for a test setup, is it technically possible to have OCR, Voting disk and spfile in one LUN (all these in one ASM disk group) ?
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I asked my system admin to provide me two partitions so that i could format them with OCFS2 file system.
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*"Is what you want before I do it??*
*/dev/emcpowera1 is 3GB and formatted OCFS2.*
*/dev/emcpowera2 is 3GB and formatted OCFS2.*
*Are those big enough for you? If not, I can re-size and re-format them*
*before I mount them on the servers.*
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*/dev/emcpowera2*
*I was thinking if this mounting techique would work like so:*
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Pls refer the enviroment information i provided above and make recommendations.
As of now i am using Jeffery Hunters guide to install the entire setup. You think the entire install guide goes well with my enviroment??
http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hunter_rac11gr1_iscsi.html?rssid=rss_otn_articles
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MK

Thanks for ur reply Mufalani,
You have managed to solve half part of my query. But still i am stuck with what kind of mount point i should ask the system admin to create for OCR and Voting disk. Should i go with the mount point he is mentioning??
Let me put forth few more questions here.
1. Is 280 MB ok for OCR and voting disks respectively??
2. Should i ask the system admin to create 4 voting disk mount points and two for ocr??
3. As mentioned by the system admin.
*/u01/shared_config/OCR_config*
*/u01/shared_config/voting_disk*
Is this ok for creating the ocr and voting disks?
4. Can i use OCFS2 file system for formating the disk instead of using them as RAW device!!?
5. As u mentioned that Openfiler is not needed for Configuring ASM... Could you provide me the links which will guide me to create partition disks, voting disks and ocr disks!! I could not locate them on the doc or else were. I did find a couple of them, but was unable to identify a suitable one for my envoirement.
Regards
MK

OCR and Voting Disk partition

Dear all
I uninstall clusterware. And i want to install again that but when i made partition in windows 2003 then CVU fail the stage command.
I did the following things..
1) diskpart --->select Disk 1----> clean -->exit (both the nodes)
2) diskpart -->automount enable--->exit ---> restart (both the nodes)
3) Then i make four partition in one node. And see after restart node 2 have that partition with drive letter. I remove all the drive letter.
But CVU stage command failed. And if i run clusterware then it can get partition which has not previous OCR and voting. I think previous OCR and Voting disk could not clean.
Could u pls tell me how can i get solution.
Moinul

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Hi,
We have oracle 10.2.0.4 RAC database. Now we are planning to mirror the OCR and Voting disk. Currently we are using SAN mirror copy. SAN admin assures that we don't need mirror copy as it is being mirrored at the disk level. Can any one please suggest me if we need any mirror copy of these. If so what advantages I get from the regular SAN copy.

You use SAN or High Availability Storage + RAID. You don't need to mirror OCR/VOTING .
Anyway , If you can do it... Mirror OCR + Multi VOTING... , that's good thing oracle recommend.
By the way, If you can not mirror OCR + multi VOTE on 10g, You should backup VOTE File ("dd" linux command) after setup completed/add node/delete node.
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/rac.102/b28759/adminoc.htm#sthref148
And Check OCR file automatic backup:
$ ocrconfig -showbackup
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/rac.102/b14197/ocrsyntax.htm

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