Octave double of one channel strip?

Hi, Fairly new to mainstage. I have a very memory hungry software instrument as part of a patch, and what I want to do is somehow send it two notes for every one I play- the one I play, and another an octave below that. But I don't want to create another copy of it.
So, two notes will sound, an octave apart. How can I do that? In Logic this kind of thing is so easy, just set up a transformer and you're done. I miss transformers.
Thanks for your time.... Darcy

You don't have transformers in MS (i could bet they're working on them tho). I think The straight way is to add a second instrument strip. Chanches are using two instances of the same plugin will not result in doubling the resources needed. Even if you see the cpu usage raising to 100% try to play intensively and check if there's any lag.
Alternatively you can try using a pitch shifter or a delay designer and mixing it with the dry sound to see if you like the result.

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Control only the software instrument of one channel strip at a time with one Controller

Hi people,
I have a Nord Lead 2 and a Korg Nanokontrol and I want to use these as Midi controllers in the following way, but don't really know how to set up the system:
I have 4 Channelstrips and each has the free software instrument Tyrell N6 inserted. I have the opportunity to change the volume of each channel strip with my faders on the Nanokontrol which works fine and gives me the opportunity to make layers and change also to only use one sound at a time. And this works fine. However, now I want to have the opportunity to change the parameters of each Tyrell with my Nord Lead. But with 4 channelstrips each with a Tyrell N6 I want to have the opportunity to only somehow manipulate only one instance of Tyrell at a time and change the channelstrip for which the Nord Lead manipulates the Tyrell. Is there an opportunity in Mainstage to do that?
Hope it is understandable. Help would be really much appricated. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Hi DaCaptain,
Thank you very much for your answer. I tried it yesterday, but it doesnt really work for me to be honest. The thing is that I really wanna stick to one patch, so that I can have like one patch for each song.
However, if you might be interested I found a way to do it yesterday on my own. This is how I have done it:
In Layout-Mode
- Create Controls for each instance of Tyrell. For my purpose I created 4 times:
             - controlls for the Filter Section
             - controls for ADSR1
             - controls for ADSR2
- So you have 4 Sections of controllers in Layout Mode. Each meant to controll one Tyrell Instance
- Now each section gets its own Midi Channel. So all the controllers of section 1 respond to MIDI Channel 1 and the controllers of section 2 respond to MIDI Channel 2 and so on.
- Now you tell the Nord Lead that it should send via MIDI Channel 1 and you assign the Cutoff-Controller of the Nord Lead to the controller (the one of the first section) that is suppose to control the cutoff of the first Tyrell. And you proceed this way until all the controllers of the first sections are assigned. Then you swith to MIDI Channel 2 on the Nord Lead and assign the Cutoff-Controller of the Nord Lead to the controller (the one of the second section) that is suppose to control the cutoff of the second Tyrell. And here again you proceed this way until all the controllers of the second sections are assigned. Then you go on with the third and fourth section taking MIDI Channel 3 and 4.
In Edit-Mode
- In Edit Mode now you of course assign the controllers to the functions in each Tyrell
Result
- Now you can switch between the MIDI Channels on the Nord Lead. This is quiet easy because you can assign a MIDI Channel to one of four buttons on the Nord Lead.
- So if you switch to MIDI Channel 1 you can controll the functions of the first Tyrell and if you switch to MIDI Channel 2 you can controll the functions of the second Tyrell. And all in one Patch with only one controller which is even from the nineties. I find this really great. The only problem is that the Layout might get really messy, if you try to maybe control more functions of each Tyrell. And I really think maybe Mainstage in future could give us the opportunity to create bigger Layouts - maybe with different Windows or something.
Hope you might find this interesting or even helpful.
See you

ALL VOLUMES IN ONE PRESET/CHANNEL STRIP

When mixing, is it possible within one song, to save all volumes from both audio and virtual instrument tracks as a preset in one channel strip. And then to be able to flip to another preset for a different set of volumes?
This only pertains to stationary track volumes and not pan etc.
Many thanks
Jonathan

No you can't save dynamic changes over time into a channelstrip. Channelstrip settings are static presets containing Plug In settings but not their automation over time.
You could export your automated volume as a Midi file and then drag it onto a copy of of your track so it will get affected by the Midi volume changes stored into that Midi file.
Open any automation event list with a keycommand - close your current Arrange page - open a new Arrange page - you will now see a page with all the automation regions containing the data for each track. Make a selection and use "export as Midi file" - reopen your normal Arrange page and import the Midi files you just created.
That's one way I can think of - not really an elegant way of doing this sort of thing though...
The other way would be to just copy the track's automation folder to a new track and adjust the Midi channel in the Midi event list if needed
or
on Instrument tracks make a duplicate channel - copy the Midi region together with the automation and change the Instrument Plug In

Recording Control Surface automation to a channel strip

Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone could help me.
I have a Novation Remote 25 SL which its perfectly connected with Logic as a Control Surface.
What I want is to record live all the moments i do with Mixer in Logic using Remote Sl as a Control Surface while my track is playing. I want to record it to one channel strip or somewhere were i can edit them later. Is it possible? Thanks in advance.

Read the automation section in the manual.
Basically - switch all channels you wish to automate into Latch mode to write automation. Put them back to read mode to avoid overwriting. Logic has full automation editing.

Channel Strips and PreAmps; Do I need one?

I’ve been using a Rode NT1-A to record both my acoustic guitar and my Fender Princeton Amp with my Electric Guitar. I have the mic going straight into my PRESONUS FIRE BOX interface and from there to the iMac. Sometimes with the acoustic guitar I run 2 mics for a stereo sound.
This is my first set up for recording into a computer and I’m happy. For the most part I think that I get a pretty darn good sound. Keep in mind that I’m still learning about good mic placement and EQ etc…
I’ve been seeing quite a bit of news about other types of external microphone pre amps and “channel strips”. Some of them are just “pre-amps” others have EQ and or Compression by companies like ART, Presounus, Focusright etc..
Am I missing something sound wise with the Mic / FireBox / Computer chain? Would I notice much of an improvement in my sound if I ran the mic through one of these?
My budget is on the lower side as you may have guessed based on the price of my mic and my interface (about $300 each). Any ideas on a PreAmp / Channel Strip to check out?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.3.9) 1.5 gigs ram

OK.........
If I were to say get a "channel strip" unit, would I then take the outputs into the "microphone" inputs of my Presonus FireBox or should I use the "line" inputs? In this way I think that I would be using 2 pre-amps at the same time; the "channel strip" and the "firebox".
OR is there need to bypass the "pre-amp" section of the Firebox and just use it as a analoge to digital interface?
Best,
Morris

Naming channel strips one thing and tracks another..?

hi.
i have my global track header set to channel strip name so if i rename a channel strip from the arrange track then all the tracks assigned to that channel will rename the same...
BUT...
sometimes i want to name the channel strip say 'drums' but all the tracks 'kick' 'snare' 'hats' etc....
is this possible because im sure i remember it used to be...?
Thanks!!

Hi,
of course it is possible! CTRL-Click on the Track header and select whatever you want. You can even select to display 2 lines, you can edit the track header name in the inspector window and on and on...
Fox

Is it possible to copy all the channel strip info to another Logic project?

Hi
I'm trying to combine two projects so that I can crossfade from one to another yet still have full mix control. I've figured out how to copy the audio files (drag and drop), and that's brilliant, but I'd like to keep all my channel info without having to copy every single strip and rename them. Can anyone shed light on this and save me a couple of hours?
Thanks

Yeah, as Miles says, the track import function might be your best bet - you have to navigate to the files you want - double click on the Project file name to see what's in there and you can bring back your channel strips and the track contents, there are a few options to choose to decide what you want, but that's OK, innit ?
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Channel Strip Settings For Voice Over

Might have screwed something up, or forgot. I record voice overs onlyon Logic Pro. Do I set both channel strips to the left with one circle or the interlocking circles. Or do I set one circle on one and the double circles on the other? I record in mono. I notice when I use the interlocking circles there are two circles near the top. When I use only circle the larger circle near the top disappears. Confused. Just need to know what is the correct settings for VOs. I thank you for your help

If you record in mono, all you need is the single circle. Mono track. Not L, not R, just mono.
http://help.apple.com/logicpro/mac/10/#lgcp45c6e19a

Odd stuff - recording delay - automatic channel Strip changes

Recently I upgraded my interface from a MOTU 828MKII, to a Metric Halo 2882. I also upgraded from Logic 8 to 9. The problem is, I did this in the middle of a project. This project was/is just a test of a whole new upgrade to my home studio including some preamps/mics/interface/acoustic treatment/etc. Up to this point I mainly recorded my own stuff (5yrs), no big deal. But I'm thinking of moving this into a part time gig. So I asked a some friends if they'd be interested in free recording as guinea pigs.
The first day (Saturday) we tracked drums into the MOTU on Logic 8, as my Metric Halo interface hadn't arrived yet. Everything went good. That Monday, my Metric Halo arrived. I switched out the MOTU, and had the 2882 up and running by Wednesday. Thursday, I installed Logic 9 and updated to 9.1. I had all weekend to work though some of the new stuff, and it all sounded good.
By Monday I had the guitar/singer come by to lay down the rhythm guitar. When we recorded it, with the same settings as in the previous session, although with Logic 8 and a Motu interface, the guitar was around 246 samples late. I adjusted the Recording Delay ahead 246 samples, and it made it slower. I adjusted back 246, still not right. So we called the session.
I've scoured forums, and the only info I can find is plugin latency, and I/O buffer settings. I never had any issue with the MOTU as far as recording delay goes. I had latency issues, but nothing that actually recorded. It was my understanding that, the I/O buffer only affects the monitoring latency, everything "goes to tape" correctly though. I've spent the last 4-5 days trying to figure this out. If I start a new project with the 2882, everything syncs up great, no delay at all. But if I try to add to any project that was started with the MOTU, and Logic 8, I get a recorded delay.
The frustrating part of this is, last night, I updated Logic to 9.1.1, and recorded a loopback click. It worked fine. No delay at all. I tested a bass through the same recording chain I used before, and it was perfect too. I'm not sure if this was a fix in the new update, or I have some other instability thing going on. Any Ideas there?
Also, after updating last night I had a weird problem with plugins that were disabled, suddenly re-engaging. It seemed as though when I would do any changes in the MIO Console, I would come back to Logic, and random plugins would be re-enabled. I'll check tonight if this is repeatable, but last night it was a bother. I also had a Focusrite LiquiMix running at the same time. Maybe this was causing a problem. It did seem to only affect the channel strips that the LiquidMix inserts were on.
Thanks,
Erik

Thanks very much; I'm still perplexed though. You're right, the "mono->stereo" plug-ins yield stereo effects for the guitar; but I'm referring to the pre-assembled "sets" of plug-ins that are accessed by clicking on the word "inserts" (above the various slots for plug-ins). When you click on this word, all sorts of effects-sets are offered: for drums, vocals, pianos, guitars, etc. I'm referring to one for "electric guitar" (under "distorted guitar") called "Angus on SG + MS 1959" (though this is true of the other effects in this same category for electric guitar). Here's why things don't make sense to me: 1) since this effects-set ("Angus...") works just fine if it's applied AFTER I've recorded the guitar dry, why should it NOT work when I'm recording with the effect? I.e., I don't need a special double guitar plug for my Firepod for the effect to work on the signal it HAS recorded; so why should the special double plug be necessary WHILE recording? Meanwhile, 2) given that this is a GUITAR effect (Angus Young playing his Gibson SG through a 1959 Marshall Stack), and guitars always have mono output, then how can it be that Logic, by design, should require users to buy a special stereo plug when using effect-sets specifically designed for guitar? .... That's why I'm perplexed. I do think your two suggestions will work; but it just seems impossible to me that Logic is actually designed to work in this way -- at least not on purpose. On the other hand, I'm a newbie, and I may be missing something that's obvious. Sure would appreciate hearing whether it seems to people that there's a problem with my set-up (or with Logic), or whether the physical stereo-plug solution is actually a well-known practice that I am simply not familiar with. Many thanks!
You have recorded only one chanel on a stereo track.
Use a second input on your firepod or use mono ->
stereo plugins on a mono track to hear them in stereo.
dual g5 Mac OS X (10.4.4)

Apple midi loops load incorect channel strip

when i preview a midi apple loop in the loop browser it sounds fine, but when i drag it onto an inst. channel it loads up all the wrong channel strip info. it will load the Garage band sampler but the correct samples do not load. I have used Redmatica's EXS manager and the Inst. are connected to the correct samples, and still no luck. even if i go into the EXS24 and try to load the Garage band Inst it does nothing (not even a warning saying it cant find samples) it stays unloaded. this has mainly been the drums from jam pack 2. I have reinstalled them twice. initialized my drive and reinstalled everything .
has anyone experienced something like this?

Good question with a complex answer. Let's say you have three synths you want to layer together, EXS24, ES1 and ES2. On one of those tracks in your arrange window, drop in your midi arrangement, for this example we'll say it's the EXS24. You'll notice a "plug" on the top right corner of the channel strips. Locate the plug on the EXS 24, click + hold and drag this plug to the ES1. Now repeat the process for the ES1 to the ES2. You have now changed all the instruments together, and they will respond to the the midi input from the base synth, i.e. the EXS 24.
To make this easier, it may help you to create a new layer in the environment window and then place the channel strips for those instruments on this layer. This will keep things organized for your workflow, but it's entirely optional. Hope this helps. Check out macprovideo.com for more environment + midi tricks.

Memory problems when using alias channel strips (3.0.2)

I'm having memory issues when using alias channel strips. What is happening is I create one instance of the plugin, say Massive. Then make a bunch of other alias on different patches. When looking at the memory usage everytime I add and alais it increases the memory usage by an amount the same as the origional plugin. ie. add 3 alias and you have 3 times more memory usage. See attached photos.
Original plugin instance ~80mb memory usage
Adding 3 Alias channel strips. ~330mb memory usage
By comparison here is the usage by adding 3 brand new instance of the plugins. ~160mb memory usage
By comparison it is using less memory by having 4 seperate instances of the plugin compared to using 3 alias's of the origional. This doesn't make sense since the whole point of an alias is to save memory by only loading one instance of the plugin.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Jon

What's interesting is that if I, starting with a blank concert, add a Massive to a patch and then make an alias the memory is as you say. But if I make a duplicate of the inital patch and then make alias's of that the memory is lower.
Are you seeing the same with the built-in plug-ins?

Solo Button in Channel Strip with Red Line

Solo Button in Channel Strip with Red Line through it and it won't solo?
How'd it happen and how do you get rid of it?
Thanks!

Try This----From the Manual
Logic Pro, Express: Solo Safe mode may not remain disabled for a particular channel strip
Symptoms
In certain projects, "Solo Safe" mode for a channel strip may enable each time you load the project, even after you disable it and save the project.
Resolution
When a channel strip in Logic is "Solo Safe", it remains audible, even when other channel strips are soloed. Solo Safe is indicated by a diagonal red line through the solo button on a channel strip.
You can manually toggle the solo safe status of a channel strip by Control-clicking its solo button. There are times when you may find that a particular audio channel strip in a project reverts to solo safe mode when you load the project, even after you manually disable solo safe. Here is why that may happen and steps you can take to prevent it from occurring.
A Logic project contains a special audio channel strip used for pre-listening to audio in the Sample Edit window, Audio Bin, and Loop Browser. When you create a Logic project from one of the factory templates, this channel strip is assigned to "Audio 256". This channel strip stays in solo safe mode so that you can always preview audio. The image below shows the channel strip for a new, empty project.
If there is no audio channel strip in a project assigned to "Audio 256", Logic will use the highest-numbered available audio channel for pre-listening. When the project is loaded, that channel strip will be put into solo safe mode. You may find this happens in older projects that you open in Logic 8, or in cases where you have deleted the "Audio 256" channel strip in a Logic 8 project. To prevent this from affecting channel strips you are using in a project's arrangement, follow these steps:
Choose Window > Environment.
From the Environment window menu, choose New > Channel Strip > Auxiliary. A channel strip will appear in the environment.
Select the channel strip. It will highlight.
In the Device parameter box in the upper left of the Environment window, click the arrows to the right of "Channel" and choose Audio > Audio 256 from the menu.
Select the text tool, click on the name below the channel strip and name it "Prelisten".

Error using pretrigger when capturing more than one channel

I am having problems acquiring data with pretrigger samples when capturing more than one channel, using NI-PXI-6071E hardware and Labview's Analog Input VIs (Legacy NI-DAQ).
My goal is to trigger on one signal, while capturing another. Unfortunately, I cannot use the PFI0 for external triggering, as our cables/hardware have already been built, so I must use an analog input channel as the trigger. I understand that to do so I must capture both channels, and the channel that I wish to trigger off of must be the first channel in the list.
If I trigger and capture on the same channel (tried 1-4) then it
works great, regardless of the number of pre-trigger samples set. If I
capture more than one channel (passing the trigger channel first), with no pretrigger samples set, then triggering and capturing both work fine. However, if I do the same with the pretrigger sample > 0 I get the following error:
Error -10621 occurred at AI Control. Possible reason(s):
NI-DAQ LV: The specified trigger signal cannot be assigned to the trigger resource.
I don't se any such limitation explained in the user manual, and searching the forum, I have found a few other people that had the
same
problem
but they did not have solutions. Any ideas?
Solved!
Go to Solution.

I'm sorry for double-posting this. I was trying to post it in the DAQ board and it kept ending up on the LabView board.
If moderators have the ability to delete this thread you are welcome to do so.

All of a sudden, I can no longer add any plugins to any channel strips? And when I click on an existing plugin to edit, it disappears off the channel strip?

I am running Logic express 9 on a 2008 Macbook, (non pro). Anyhow, logic has always seemed to work great for me. However, last week I opened up one of many existing projects, (I'm in sample editor). When I went to add a new plugin to one of the channel strips it would not allow me to. Also, if I click on any plugin that already exists on the channel strip it dissapears? The strange thing that also happens weather I click to add a new plugin or click on an already existing plugin, is both the "repeat section" and "crop", buttons from the above menu (in sample editor), the actual buttons become a faded image,(as far as the actual font and images of the buttons). As soon as I am done clicking to add a plugin on the channel strip, both buttons from the menu go back to looking normal like all of the other choices from that menu? I really don't get it? All I want to do is to be able to add plugins as well as edit or change plugins again. Any thoughts as to why I can no longer add any new plugins to any channel strips? And why any existing plugins disappear from the channel strip when I click on it? Why the "repeat section", and "Crop", buttons from the menu above fade in and out when I try clicking on the channel strip is very strange? I don't mind that I just want to be able to add or edit plugins again. I did do some document cleaning up last week as my memory was getting low. I then emptied out my trash bin. I'm hoping I didn't accidentally delete some kind of Logic component? Why can't I add or edit plugins anymore? Anyone ever run across this?
Thanks,
Mike.

Mike,
Are any of your other applications going wonky, or is it just Logic?
I'm afraid I've never heard of this particular problem before, but if it were happening to me the first thing I would do is delete my "com.apple.logic.express.plist" file in Library>Preferences, then repair permissions in Disc Utility, and finally restart my computer. Then I would launch Logic and see if the problem has been corrected. It's amazing how much these two steps can accomplish.
If that doesn't resolve the issue I would launch Logic and go to Preferences>Audio Units Manager to see if all my plug-ins are properly validated.

Logic Channel Strip Instruments no longer open after Logic 8 upgrade

I upgraded Logic 8.0 to 8.0.1 and now none of the preset Logic Channel strip instruments will open. I can open all of the instruments on their own no problem. But if I select something from one of their saved presets or an instrument that I've saved, it does nothing, just hangs. There's no beach ball or logic not responding. When you do force quit, it quits logic and then upon a restart of the system, the system just freezes too. This is really frustrating because I've save a lot of my own instruments and can't get to them now. This happen in a previous session and a new session started from scratch with the upgrade. I can access all of my saved audio channel strips. Has anyone encountered this? One more bit of frustration and impediment to my work flow. Thanks, Jeff.

I've also trouble with that Channel Strips. I've saved and closed a Song with some Mastering-Plugs in the Output 1-2 ( also Stereo Sum ) and after I reloaded that song, there wasn't no Plug anymore. So all my work was gone and I am also very frustrated.
The next big Problem is working with folders. I've in most of my songs folder of MIDI and Singers and when I am working with this songs on Logic 8, I got many failure in the view of waveforms and regions.
Sometimes regions doesn't play anymore when I switched between folders in the song. That nervs me up the whole time ...
Maybe someone can help or can tell me that's why we get ProKit 4.5

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