Odd Display Problems - Solved (& More...)

Earlier today I picked up the weird display problem shown in this thread: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1524985&tstart=30
I went ahead and reinstalled the Leopard Graphics Update and reset the PRAM. Problems seemed to go away. But then I ended up with an even weirder white-on-black display that looked a lot like an xray. So reset the PRAM again. No fix. Then restarted in SAFE mode - all OK, so probably not hardware. Then ran Disk Utility from the Leopard System CD. No probs revealed. Problem (white-on-black) came back on restart. Searched Discussion base and found reference to wrong toggle set in Universal Access System Preference. This was the white-on-black problem and toggling to black-on-white solved it.
Here's the part I don't understand (but like): the machine is much faster than it was. Safari pages load with great speed, apps open faster, etc. It may have been the series of restarts that cleared something, but somewhere in this troubleshooting string things overall got a lot better. Beats me, but like it... YMMV.

I just have some general thoughts. Does it look correct if you connect it to a different monitor? (to find out if the TV / TV connection is the problem) Did you install something in your house that could affect the signal that is being transmitted through the wire? (I highly doubt it) Are you SURE you didn't install / update / change any settings before it stopped working?
The problem you described reminds me a little of the glitchy GTK problems I was having with my Radeon. My problem ended up being related to the open source driver and KMS. Is there another driver or video card you could try? Is your video card getting too hot?

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    I have the EXACT same problem. In fact, I could not have described it better myself. What gives? I brought it in to the "genius" bar and they repolaced the power supply free of charge but the problem is still there. I noticed they ordered a new logic board but did not end up replacing it after all. Did you have yours replaced and did it work? Is this a known issue?
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    Re: What's the problem? Display? Power supply? Cooling? My G5's gone mad
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    Re: What's the problem? Display? Power supply? Cooling? My G5's gone mad
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    Re: What's the problem? Display? Power supply? Cooling? My G5's gone mad
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    Re: What's the problem? Display? Power supply? Cooling? My G5's gone mad
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    The Fans going at full is only because you have an application that is using a lot of cpu power and therefore causing the imac to heat up so it turns the fans on. The screen-saver and sleep problem you describe sounds like something that may just happen on accident. But this sounds mostly like a software problem. Try making sure to always quit all non-apple products and see if anything changes.
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    Re: What's the problem? Display? Power supply? Cooling? My G5's gone mad
    Posted: Jan 15, 2007 6:50 AM in response to: AG-Nate
    Thank you, Ag-Nate. I will try as you adivised but I con't think the fans were activeted my intensive CPU using. In most of the cases, the problems happened when the Mac was sleeping, when the minimum CPU were being used.
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    Timothy Klein
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    Re: What's the problem? Display? Power supply? Cooling? My G5's gone mad
    Posted: Jan 31, 2007 1:02 PM in response to: AG-Nate
    "The Fans going at full is only because you have an application that is using a lot of cpu power and therefore causing the imac to heat up so it turns the fans on."
    That's only partly right. A hard-working process will make the fans run at high speed, of course.
    But, the OS is in touch with the firmware of the iMac, telling it how to run the fans, based upon information the OS X kernel is getting about the state of the hardware.
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    Kensall
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    Re: What's the problem? Display? Power supply? Cooling? My G5's gone mad
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    Hi I have a 20" G5 imac it's about 18 months old and I am having the same problem, It freezes and the fan runs really loud. It's nothing to do with software as my I.T. guy has done a complete re-install. All of our admin people have imacs of differring ages and the flat panels are all OK but every one of the G5s has had a booting problem. Some fell into the recall for replacement logic boards but the one I have at home is the newest and doesn't. I'm waiting for my apple reseller to get back to me, but it looks like it's the logic board and as none of the serial numbers fall into the recall, I'm expecting a big bill. I'm really disappointed as I've been a professional apple user for over 15 years and have grown to expect a certain amount of honesty and integrity from them. Looking at all of the discussion boards and the amount of people complaining of the same problem the logic boards are defective and apple should be replacing these free of charge.
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    Re: What's the problem? Display? Power supply? Cooling? My G5's gone mad
    Posted: Feb 2, 2007 10:27 AM in response to: Kensall
    Kensall,
    Welcome to Apple Discussions!
    As in the other thread I wrote:
    Being from England, you may find the repair program under these pages:
    http://www.apple.com/uk/support/imac/repairextensionprogram/
    http://www.apple.com/uk/support/imac/powersupply/repairextension/
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    The screen is covered in small visible dots, some flashing, some static. When I open a document, or a page in Safari, it displays more or less normally (I can use Word, for example), by then "smears" if I start to scroll down the page. At other times the graphics break up completely.
    I'm guessing this is a display problem, but one other odd symptom is that sometimes if I click on a file in the Finder window, instead of opening the document the window shuts down and re-opens in its starting configuration.
    I tried a restart, but it stuck on a black screen, and I had to force it to stop via holding the start button, and start again from there. I tried accessing system profiler, and it all froze up, requiring another button stop / start.
    It looks like a hardware issue, but I've no idea what kind. Anybody recognise what is happening? (I'm posting this from my iBook).
    Kenny

    Since the update 10.9.4:
    My soundcard is missing and on Safari 7.0.5 video artefacts and flickering.
    On macbook Pro 13 Early  2011

  • Display Problem--Lines around icons and mouse

    My Dell monitor attached to the Mac Mini recently shows faint lines and hatchings around the mouse curser, moving along with the cursor, and also appears around the header of the desktop, dock and the icons for folders,etc. When the screen goes in sleep mode and the screen saver comes on the resolution is really bad with these same lines cutting through the images. Furthermore, the drop down menu displays the same hatchings and lines but appears all over the menu.
    I've tried resetting the resolution and that did not change it. I thought the computer got too hot and put it on top of an external fan pad, but the lines and hatchings are still there. I connected the monitor to my lab top and the lines and hatchings are not there.
    Could this be a problem with the video card or ram?
    Thanks for any suggestions and help.

    Welcome to Apple Discussions!
    While this could be a hardware fault, specifically the ATI video subsystem and it's 32Mb VRAM, it could also be something simple such as a connection in the video cable.
    First thing to try is to unplug the video cable (and adapter if used), and the cable at the display end, and then reconnect everything,making sure it is very tightly reconnected. Once the system is rebooted, if the problem still exists, as a double check that it isn't the cabling, gently press down and sideways on the connectors to see if there is any change or flickering in the image. If there is, then the connectors may not be making a solid connection.
    If the cabling isn't the problem, there are two things to try next:
    Firstly, perform a PMU reset to ensure the video subsystem is being correctly powered.
    To reset the PMU
    - Unplug all cables from the computer, including the power cord.
    - Wait 10 seconds.
    - Plug in the power cord while simultaneously pressing and holding the power button on the back of the computer.
    - Let go of the power button.
    - Press the power button once more to start up your Mac mini.
    If that doesn't resolve it, download and run YASU (it's available at www.versiontracker.com), setting it to perform all tasks except deleting cookies. Leave it to run, without using the system for anything else while it does it. This will clear out system caches and perform a range of other spring cleaning type activities and then force the system to reboot when done. The reboot will be slower than usual and the first few minutes afterwards the system will also be a little slow as it rebuilds the cache files, but this can often resolve odd behavioral problems of this sort.
    If the problem persists after that, please post back.

  • IBook G4 Display Problem

    I am having a display problem that looks exactly like the video link below:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFzfdq3xMrI
    What could be the cause of the problem?
    Some possibilities:
    If the display cable, how can this be replaced without taking the whole thing apart - is there a simpler way?
    If a video card heatsink problem, is this an easy fix?
    Many Thanks.

    This appears to be a continuation of an issue you noted in September, as the
    display had some problems then and after trying a few things, it seemed to be
    stable at the time.
    Perhaps the components involved with the iBook then are behind this problem.
    Does not seem any easy path could be available to fix the problem, since the
    parts most likely to be affecting or contributing to the symptom are deep enough
    into the computer to require tedious disassembly effort. And odd screw locations.
    Looking into the iFixit guide for iBook G4 12" 800MHz to 1.2GHz series build:
    https://www.ifixit.com/Device/iBook_G4_12%22_800_MHz-1.2_GHz these
    items may be weak or failing: the inverter, inverter/airport cables, and there
    may be an indirect issue with the data display cable as they get bent & can
    fail. The rolling & flickering image may be the inverter, but there are a few
    components that essentially are not replaceable on the logic board that can
    be the cause of display failure when these other items have not failed.
    And a failing graphic processor or overheating may be contributory causes to
    the symptoms. A complete diagnostic test, probably beyond most AASPs interest
    may be required to troubleshoot the device accurately. So many don't want to fix
    the older hardware, perhaps they're fearful of someone not willing to pay a lot to
    have an older machine repaired. Hard to say...
    You may need to enlist the aid of a specialist who restores and refurbishes
    Apple portable computers and who has sufficient facilities to repair almost
    everything in most any of these computer models... wegenermedia.com.
    Since they have devised methods to fix these correctly & more efficiently
    that may be a way to go. To call them &/or email after looking at their web
    site can be helpful to discuss the matter and their processes of repair, etc.
    Sorry to not be of much help, but in the process of locating correct service
    and repair, you may also consider obtaining a second iBook or something
    that can run the software of that vintage, to extend the usefulness of it.
    Good luck & happy computing!

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