ODWA6i/Headstart 6i against Designer 6i R4

Hi guys,
i'm experiencing troubles running iDevCOE software against Designer 6i Release 4.
1. Grant scripts in ODWA 6i report errors because Designer lacks several packages (CIOACTION_ITEM for instance) in comparison to previous releases. The RAU doesn't report missing or invalid objects anyway.
Question: has Designer's interface been changed, or is the repository not installed correctly?
2. Restoring Headstart's unversioned dump in an unversioned repository doesn't work. Importing works, but when performing next step, Designer reports the user needs 'manage workarea privilege', which can't be set for a non-versioned repository. This all worked in Release 2.
Question: is the unversioned dump incompatible with Designer 6i R4? Or is it an incorrect installation again?
Did someone run into the same kind of trouble?

We are planning to use Des6i R4 but I noticed this post that this could cause some problems. So I am wondering why there was no response from the Headstart team at this question or that the problem is solved at the customer.
I mean this is a very important issue !!

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