OEM ADDM & Tuning Pack

Hi Friends,
I'm evaluating the Oracle Diagnostic pack and tuning pack to compliment the already available standard SAP tool for tuning like st04/st03n,etc
Few questions
1. Anyone see the worth of the above 2 pack ?
2.sto4 can show you only so much why certain read/write in DB is slow, will this be the better tool in market for diagnostics
3. Anyone sees negative impact/ horror stories due to this?
4. Oracle has improvised OEM in 11g and 10g significantly, any inputs on this and usage on RAC
5. Any other great inputs are welcomed as well
Thanks & Best Regards,
Naren

Hi Naren,
From an Oracle DBA perspective, which is where am coming from, these tools are very helpful but because you are on SAP where you are really bound by SAP metrics, these are not going to be helpful to you because SAP recommendation supercedes Oracle's recommednation.
Note also that these packs require a separate license. If you are not licensed to use it, you should not be using them. From Oracle10g onward, Oracle had a record everytime that you use the diagnostic pack. You should have gotten this warning the first time that you try and use the diagnostic pack.
IMHO, most tuning are supposed to be coming from an application end and this is what most of the OEM reports will show you, the most expensive SQLs, you need to put index here and there, log switching, memory not enough etc. Most of these are already discussed in SAP notes. Additional indexes if ever one is identified, you will still have to get SAP Support to approve that, so what's the point?

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