Ofcom wants to ban misleading broadband speed ads

Ofcom is seeking to stop internet service providers from advertising unrealistic broadband speeds.
Currently most ISPs advertise services as 'up to' a certain speed - for instance, 20Mbps (megabits per second).
But Ofcom's latest research finds that very few consumers actually get these headline speeds.
Ofcom's latest research into broadband speeds found that just 14% of customers on 'up to' 20Mbps services received speeds of over 12Mbps, while 58% averaged speeds of 6Mbps or less.
Cable and fibre services fared better, with 92% of V***** M**** customers on an 'up to' 50Mbps service averaging 45.6Mbps.
BT's Fibre-to-the-Cabinet technology, which is currently available to 15% of UK homes, has an average of 31.8Mbps on the 40Mbps service.
BT is not impressed with Ofcom's idea.
"We have real concerns with their approach. Broadband speeds vary from line to line and so it is meaningless to use one speed for advertising. That is why we use the term 'up to'," said John Petter, managing director of BT Retail.
He said he thought such a policy "would encourage digital exclusion rather than tackle it".
"Enforcing typical speed ranges is also dangerous as it could encourage more ISPs to cherry pick customers who will increase their average, leaving customers in rural and suburban areas under-served," he said.
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I feel 'Up to' is acceptable, 'Maximum product speed' (with the usual caveats about line length, quality, etc) would be better when advertised alongside a minimum product speed guarantee, say 2Mb/s.
Far more pernicious are 'Unlimited' claims (which Ofcom/ASA are also investigating) - any service which is advertised as 'Unlimited' and has ARTIFICIAL constraints placed upon it is not unlimited!
Blaming users for actually using the product they have purchased and restricting 'heavy' users is disingenuous!  IF a package is described as unlimited then the available bandwidth should be shared equally between those users contending it rather than the more common 'you've exceeded your permitted bandwidth of this unlimited product... we're restricting you to speed X during peak times.'
Such restrictions are not for the benefit of the other customers... if memory serves, residential bandwidth is contended 50:1 (or thereabouts)... if the ISP has insufficient bandwidth to accomodate a serviceable connection to each of those users simultaneously that is the ISP's problem but which would they prefer to, potentially, lose?  A few 'heavy' users or fifty customers for having the audacity to expect some minimum level of service?

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    FROM THE OLD FORUM Original post by John Jorgensen...
    Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 22, 2010 9:17 AM           
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    Hi,
    I have had bt broadband opt3 for almost 3 months now and have always had a healthy 9mb+ connection, however have noticed it being very slow in the evening when I come home from work, I checked the speed last nite as iplayer was constantly freezing and was getting 1mb . A bit upset by this as I got bt broadband to play my ps3 online and to get faster speeds on my laptop, and I use these services mostly at nite.
    I checked my speed this morning and was getting 11mb, is this normal or am I being capped I cant believe Id be going over my download limit. Can someone from bt get back to me on this?
    Thanks
    John
    alison griffiths     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 22, 2010 11:22 AM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen           
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    Welcome to the world of BT , the tv advert when he says " business slow" when trying to load a webpage is not other companies thats BT.
    John Jorgensen     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 22, 2010 12:11 PM   in response to: alison griffiths in response to: alison griffiths           
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    Yes Alison, I think I can see that now. I wouldnt mind if broadband was a bit slower at peak times, I know thats normal, but when I'm only getting 1mb when my max is 14mb, I just dont feel I'm getting what I pay for. And when it gets to the point where I cant watch iplayer without it stuttering everywhere and online games lagging on the ps3, this is certainly not what I'm paying for.
    I was hoping one of the mods here would help me and check my line and see if there is any cap on the line and get it removed.
    I really dont wanna phone India, I deal with them 5 days a week as is...
    Think I will just send one of the mods an email to check my line and see if it is being capped or if somethings wrong.
    anthony dickerson     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 22, 2010 3:52 PM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen           
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    You will never get decent speeds on Iplayer,
    BT limit it because they want you to subscribe to their precious BT Vision service.
    The only way you are guaranteed to get decent speeds on BT is to subscibe to BT Vision and also unlimited broadband.
    Then you will get priority when you stream TV at your exchange unlike fighting it out with all the other broadband users as you currently are for the available bandwith.the more over subscribed your local exchange the worse it is
    Paddy B Mod     
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        Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 23, 2010 2:04 PM   in response to: anthony dickerson in response to: anthony dickerson           
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    Hi John,
    I can take a look at the network side of things for you, to see if there is anything I can do to help improve your speed during peak periods. Please could you drop me an email with your BT account details? Please also include a link to this thread. It would also be very helpful if you could run a few speed tests using www.speedtester.bt.com when you feel your Broadband is running slow. I can then check those results from here.
    Thanks
    Paddy
    BT Forum Moderator - [email protected] - if you're emailing please include a link to your thread so I can reference back to it.
    Mateusz Sokolin...     
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    Registered: 10/11/08
        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 24, 2010 7:33 PM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen           
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    Well John i'll tell you what it is...
    First of all welcome to BT and I hope you'll enjoy 18months of pain and suffer.
    OK here it goes....
    If you look at your contract, find a rule that says Fair Usage Policy.
    Basically it states that BT will cap anyone that is abusing their lines.
    However, it does not say what are the limits after which you are going to be capped for how long and at what times. (I'll come back to this later and explain)
    If you ring 08007076044 I'm sure that someone will confirm my theory. As constant 1MBit between 6PM till 11/12 PM is actually FUP applied on to your account.
    Ok time to explain my frustration about FUP.
    Since I signed my contract with "lovely" BT for constant 4 months I had similar issue but it took me even longer to find out what is going on and how to deal with this problem (thanks to google).
    FUP team states that if you exceed 100GB in a month (everyone will admit that these days 100GB is nothing when a single game for PS3/XBox360/PC sometimes is more than 5GB and 1080p film is about 12GB) will cap you for a month at peak times to outstanding and superfast 1Mbit (about 130-150KB/s).
    I'be been watching my download and for few months never exceeded that 100GB in a month. Been ringing FUP team to verify when suddenly they told me that from (cant remember exactly) March FUP will apply only to accounts that are using Torrents and other P2P.
    you won't believe how happy I was hearing that.... So i've started to download and next month guess what.... 1Mbit connection.
    Really mad rang FUP team and asked them what on earth is going on. They confirmed that its only P2P and I've explained them that I only use Youtube, BBC iPlayer, Rapidshare, Steam and XBox Live, Beatport (just don't understand how ppl can use torrents and other P2P as they are just way to slow). So they were happy to take the cap off my broadband connection.
    Next month same issue solved exactly the same way.
    After that for consecutive few months I had no problem whatsoever until September where FUP Team said that there is no such thing and FUP applies to everyone.
    So just want to say that BT is rubbish that can't keep their word.
    I went to one of the sales advisor in the shopping centre and asked him how FUP works as it does not say in the contract "how, when, who and what".
    So he said that policy is applied based on amount of files downloaded within that 100GB. So if I download e.g. 3x 50GB (although its 150GB altogether) files I wont be affected but 100x 1GB will put a cap on me.
    I've been so curious if what he said was right and started to download 2x 60GB and guess what... Got frigging FUP placed on my account!!!.
    I've got 2months left with them and will be extremely happy to cancel my contract, moreover, I will do everything in my power to sue them under EU Consumer Rights Law (that states that contract should be clear and fair to both sides) as Fair Usage Policy is one of those things that allows BT to do anything they want to their customers;
    1. No clear explanation of what FUP is.
    2. Does not states the amount of downloaded data required to have cap on the acount
    3. Does not states for how long it will be applied
    4. Does not states when it will be applied
    If you look at e.g. Virgin Broadband everything is clearly written in nice and understandable way. It warns you at what times FUP will be applied under what circumstances and for how long. Isn't it what we all want to know??
    Alex Owen     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 24, 2010 9:35 PM   in response to: Mateusz Sokolin... in response to: Mateusz Sokolin...           
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    @Mateusz I think I maybe a victim of this outragous stint BT have done. I have 2 XBOX 360's running on XBOX Live, 2 Desktop PCs connected to the web constantly, and 3 laptops, we have a torrent sharing running and World Of Warcraft on one of the PCs. All of this is shared across a 6 person family. How can a family where two members goto to college and university do their college ork, download application such as VB.net do their coursework and revise without the hassle of a **** connection. Seriously BT get your ******* head outta your **** and stop this ********, we are customers, we pay for what we are offered. When I signed up several years ago I could download everything on the net woithout infracions on my line being set in motion. You altered my contract without telling me. You will lose custom from this. Also you have ****** my wireless
    Edited by: Alex Owen on Jan 24, 2010 9:36 PM
    amanda jones     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:42 PM   in response to: Alex Owen in response to: Alex Owen           
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    You lot are lucky, We wish we could be capped to 1mbit. Our IP profile is capped to 500kbit because BT say the line isn't good enough for anything more. We are paying for option3 up to 8mbit and BT have said we must continue to pay for it for the remainder of the contract, or buy ourselves out of it early, the reason they give.... Up to 8mbit means up to 8mbit. If you dont get 8mbit then TOUGH LUCK SUCKERS!!
    The outcome? We feel like we've been turned over by a dodgey second hand car salesman called BT. The internet deal he flogged us was a dog, a ringer, it wasn't cosher and certainly had a false MOT certificate.
    Computer Geek     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:49 PM   in response to: amanda jones in response to: amanda jones           
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    Hi Amanda,
    Why have you joined BT Option 3 when you can not get what BT can offer?
    No pun intended but you are a bit of a sucker for paying high prices where other suppliers are cheaper and can provide what your line can support.
    CG
    amanda jones     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 26, 2010 9:13 PM   in response to: Computer Geek in response to: Computer Geek           
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    we moved house last october to this one, the connection was rubbish from the get-go, BT said the router was broken and we needed a new one, we said OK. That "OK" meant that we had entered into a new contract for option 3 same as out old one. The router wasn't broken, the new one didnt fix or improve the problem, we have since asked for a price reduction or compensation and been told "no". we are in contract and can pay to buy ourselves out of it if we like but otherwise we have to pay for option 3 and recieve fixed rate 500kb.
    Clare Thurston     
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        Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
    Posted: Jan 27, 2010 11:57 AM   in response to: amanda jones in response to: amanda jones           
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    Hi Amanda,
    I think you'll find that the Hold To Term rules have changed. BT are now unable to charge you for the account if you no longer require it. It is against OFCOM's rulings for a company to make more money out of you as a leaving customer than an existing one. However, You will need to pay for the connection charge (if that has not expired it's original differed contract) which is £40. A cancellation fee of £25 if you are simply cancelling and not migrating using a MAC key and for any hardware. The Routers are advertised at £88 and i would suggest that if they believed on to be faulty then that would be replaced under guarantee and not be put on a differed basis. I would check exactly what they say the are charging you and query this through OFCOM. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/

    Months of impecable service form BT as an option 3 customer. (I've even recommended BT to people)
    but
    For the past 2 weeks peak traffic has murdered my connection.
    I can get 14mbit off peak, and it used to drop to about 7-9 at peak times.
    Now its down to 1-2mbit at peak times. (no i haven't breached FUP as I check my btinternet inbox for the 80GB warning)
    I think its resonable to experience drop off but 90%!!!
    BT advertising says fast speeds at peak times. less than 2mbit is not fast. (that the governments minimum standard!!!)
    I don't know how to procede because when I'm experiencing these issues if I ring up I will end up waiting so long to speak to someone (because its peak time) the concection wiill be better again.
    I can think of no recourse other than to approach trading standards...
    Guarnetee me 5mbit at peak times (enough to stream HD iplayer) and I'd be happy
    That is what BT vision customers are in essence are getting + what ever their PC is using.
    Fair usage? what about Fair Supply.

  • Broadband Speeds

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    according to the btspeedtester results you have posted you are on adslmax up to 8mb and you have the max connection of 8128 with the correct profile of 7150 and throughput looks fine.
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  • Unacceptable broadband speed? 352 Kbps download

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    Hi there.  It looks like the broadband/accelerator plate, has BT logo on the top.  Latest BT Speedchecker results are Test1 comprises of two tests
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    828 Kbps
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    you are on broadband with fibre vdsl which is the same as infinity but because your speed estimate was <15mb BT do not sell infinity where speed is <15Mb but you get broadband with fibre instead.  this is still fibre to the cabinet and copper from cabinet to your home - just the same as infinity.
    this is the second post recently where the estimate was the checker 'A' speeds but the reality is your line is not good enough for 'A' so you have somewhere between 'A' and the 'B' speed
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  • Broadband Speed dropped and wont come back

    Hi, I need help and advice please.
    Background info first though, so please bare with me.
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    Over the next few days my broadband speed went from 0.74mb download to 1.95mb download. Fantastic!
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    The big problem where I live is sometimes we have power cuts. Sometimes lasting hours but mainly just for seconds. Even so it switches the BB router off. (I know, but not my fault)
    When we had the freak snow fall the other month problems started to raise their head. The computers in the household found issues connecting to the router and to resolve this BT BB Helpdesk kept advising me to reset router to enable connection. After connecting new ADSL filters the speed returned but connection issues continued.
    BT supplied me with a brand new home hub 3 which I connected thinking it would give me my 2.4mb speeds again. Oh No. To be fare I think I was getting 1.95mb but I wanted more, as most people would. Why cant I get 2.4mb most of the time I have had for a few months.
    Anyway I contacted BT who were kind enough to send a BT engineer out. He Said to me the Broadband speed is put out at the exchange (4.5km) at 8mb and comes into our village at between 3mb and 4mb. He detected no fault on the lines and spent the next 3 hours renewing 'D' and 'E' I think side of cabling (found this out later). He mentioned the noise was high but did something to lower it. On leaving he said I had 2.5mb and was confidant it would rise to 3mb.
    Great not drastic but should give me 250kbs to 50kbs extra.
    The day he was at my house we had 2 short power cuts followed by another couple some days later. This has not helped I'm sure.
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    My download speed since that day has not gone above 1.46mb download and every time I speak to the call centre they tell me my line is only capable of 2mb therefore 1.46mb is within acceptable range.
    I am so tired of explaining that I was capable of receiving 2.4mb some 2 months ago yet now since the new hub 3 and line fiddling I am only capable of a 2mb downstream - 1.46mb DLS.
    I know I have to wait 3 - 10 days but with power cuts its a nightmare, and they are so adamant about my 2mb downstream limit What the hell has happened.
    Here is a link to my recorded (Speedtest.net) data over the past 11 months showing actual proof of receiving 2.46mb:
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    1.38 Mbps
    0 Mbps
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    HEC Errors (Down/Up):
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    Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Please Help me I know I've had better than this but all the numbers point to the fact I can no longer have them. Why?
    Many thanks
    Jon
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    Hi JONNYYOUNG,
    I'm not educated enough to help but it mat reassure you, as it did me, to know your circumstances are not unique.
    Your story sounds very simialr to my experiende last November, speeds and line length being very similar.  An engineer said there was noise on my line so he switched me to another pair.  Did the engineer do that for you too ? Net result my speed dropped from ~2.3 to ~1.4Mbps. 
    Fortunately a 21CN upgrade at my excahnge has brought my speed back up to ~2.4Mbps.
    I'm sure imjolly, john46 and maybe a mod if you need it will sort you out as well as they did me.
    Good luck,
    dfenceman 
    Best regards,
    dfenceman

  • Broadband speed is low.

    Hi,
    I did a speedtest on the 1st and it showed I was getting 16mb DL speed however in the past couple of days I have only been recieving 3-4mb sometimes even slower.
    I checked my status through ADSL settings and was wondering if the noise on the line is the problem:
    ADSL line status
    Connection Information
    Line state
    Connected
    Connection time
    2 days, 01:26:37
    Downstream
    5,479 Kbps
    Upstream
    763 Kbps
    ADSL Settings
    VPI/VCI
    0/38
    Type
    PPPoA
    Modulation
    G.992.5 Annex A
    Latency type
    Fast
    Noise margin (Down/Up)
    31.1 dB / 10.3 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up)
    18.9 dB / 7.8 dB
    Output power (Down/Up)
    35.0 dBm / 1.1 dBm
    Loss of Framing (Local/Remote)
    0 / 0
    Loss of Signal (Local/Remote)
    0 / 0
    Loss of Power (Local/Remote)
    0 / 0
    FEC Errors (Down/Up)
    0 / 0
    CRC Errors (Down/Up)
    7 / 0
    HEC Errors (Down/Up)
    2 / 0
    Error Seconds (Local/Remote)
    7 / 0
    Thanks.
    Tom.

    HI welcome to the forum
    Yes your noise is the problem that has risen because of disconnections
    can you please try the quiet line test at the test socket located inside the master socket dial 17070 select option 2 you should hear no noise if you do then you need to phone bt faults on 151 and report a noisy line but do not mention broadband when you call increases in noise margin can also be caused by manually restarting the hub have you been doing that in the hopes of increasing speed if so please stop as restarts of the hub are the worse thing you can do this link may also help the post by RogerB gives lots of suggestions to try as well http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-in-Home/Poor-Broadband-speed/m-p/14217#M8397
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  • Will a new router increase my broadband speed in this configuration

    How much (if at all) can I increase my broadband speed by getting a faster router. Here's my config:
    DSL line --> DSL modem --> Lynksys BEFSR41 Router --> Ethernet cat-5 wiring in house --> TimeCapsule WiFi
    The computers using this network are an Intel iMac (10.6), a PowerPC iMac (10.4), and two Intel MacBooks (10.6).
    The modem/router are located in an in-wall distribution box in a utility room. I want to keep the hardwired ethernet available in case the WiFi quits temporarily. The TimeCapsule is in a good location (top shelf bookcase on first floor) for coverage of my 2-story house. In principle could eliminate the Lynksys modem, and use the TC as the primary router, but it would be difficult to physical locate the TC where it could both distribute to the house ethernet and have good radio reception.
    Testing via the hardwire ethernet (using Speakeasy and speedtest.net) shows download and upload speed 1.27Mbps and 0.32Mb/s. My ISP is pacbell.net. I get the same result via my W-Fi. Speedtest.net tells me my result is about 40% of the average for pacbell.net to my zip code 94301.
    I've heard there are much faster routers than the BEFSR41, but I don't know if my internet speed is limited by my current router or by pacbell's DSL service.
    Any insights would be appreciated.

    Will a new router increase my broadband speed
    No...your speed is only going to be as fast as your weekest link, which in your case is the DSL modem and the connection speed package you subsribe to.

  • Re: Broadband speed issues

    So - You think that you have a problem.
    Compared to the atrocious broadband service which I receive from BT, Your connection is Fast.
      Since having my phone line installed 15 months ago, I have spent Hundreds of hours on the phone ( when it works ) listening to machines telling me to wait, because  '' Your call is very important to us ''
    Twenty-five to Forty-five minutes is the usual waiting time.
      When I Do Eventually get through to the Indian Helpline operator, I find that their English is usually rudimentary and, although they do try very hard to help me, they are unable to do so.
      After around anywhere between half an hour and Two hours of trying unsuccessfully to help me, they arrange an Engineers Visit to my home.
      I have had visits from FOURTEEN ENGINEERS at my home in FIFTEEN  MONTHS.
    MY BROADBAND SPEED PROBLEM IS CONTINUING. SOMETIMES I HAVE NO CONNECTION AT ALL.  
    My Download Speed normally varies between 0.01mbps and 1.1mbps. I have, on occasions had 1.4mbps to 2.5mbps, but these occasions are rare, and they only last a day, or two days at best.
    All of the ( Very Nice )  BT  Engineers have tried their very best to help me.
    Some of them were successful, but the improvements which they make don't last.
    Luckily, I am retired, so I have the the time available to see the engineers.
    I need the broadband for the online shopping, because my nearest local supermarket is 12 miles away.
    I used to get angry about the situation, but it just adds even more stress & it doesn't  help.
    I have become accustomed to paying £21 a month for an awful service. 
      ANYONE WHO CAN SUGGEST A PERMANENT CURE WILL BE INVITED HOME FOR A FREE LUNCH.....

    Hi welcome to this customer to customer self help forum if you read this link provided by CL Keith http://forumhelp.dyndns.info/speed/first_steps.html. And post back the details asked for then we can start to offer you some help and if further help is needed we can help you by putting introduced with the forum moderators who are a small UK based team of trouble shooters
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  • Re: Slow Broadband Speed

    I am having the same type of problems I just joined BT from another provider as they have cut my broadband speed in more than half since July the 1st 2012 I live in a small Welsh Vallley called Gilfach Goch.  I have two seperate internet lines into this house one with BT and one with Sky they have both has their speed cut by more than half I spoke with a BT engineer at the local exchange today who told me that BT know that there are severe Broadband problems here in Gilfach but that the BT management is refusing to allow engineer's to track and repair the fault.  So all I can say is that unless BT does it's job and repairs the fault in this area I will not pay them for such a extremely poor levell of service and I would also suggest that people start complaining to Ofcom about the service issues as I most certainly will be.

    As you can see from above the BT Mods do not appear to like the truth being told about how bad BT service is in essence you must not say anything bad about BT.  I can honestly say that I do not suffer from the rose tinted spectacles of the Mods myself as someone else has pointed out that BT make you sign an 18 month contract in advance I will point out now that BT if they are providing less than the service that you agreed to and were receiving prior to signing said contract will be in breach of their own terms and conditions and they are also liable under the Goods and Services act which states that a company must provide the agreed to service in a reasonable time frame and with due care.  If this is not the case then they potentially face a claims for damages against them and they would have to explain their lack of services in a open court room you can file these types of claims using the Money claim online service should the individual choose to do so and you would of course have to be prepared to argue your case and pay the required fees.  As I have already been informed that BT knows about the problems here in Gilfach and is not willing to do the required repairs to deal with the loss of services this clearly puts them in a breach of contract situation and potentially liable for said damages as well as a fomal complaint to the Telephone regulator ofcom finally it is up to the individuals own choice as to what course of action they choose to take whether they wish to continue paying for poor service or trying to deal with it the facts around here speak for themselves. 

  • Recent drop in broadband speed

    Hi,
    I've been with BT approx 2 months now (since I moved into my new house) and have usually got a speed of ~2Mbps.
    However over the past few days I've noticed an obvious drop in speed.
    I've run the BT Speed Test and here are my results:
    Download speed achieved during the test was - 674 Kbps
     For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 200-1000 Kbps.
     Additional Information:
     Your DSL Connection Rate :3136 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
     IP Profile for your line is - 750 Kbps
    ADSL Line Status
    Connection Information
    Line state:
    Connected
    Connection time:
    0 days, 08:31:23
    Downstream:
    3.063 Mbps
    Upstream:
    448 Kbps
    ADSL Settings
    VPI/VCI:
    0/38
    Type:
    PPPoA
    Modulation:
    G.992.1 Annex A
    Latency type:
    Interleaved
    Noise margin (Down/Up):
    7.6 dB / 24.0 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up):
    49.3 dB / 25.0 dB
    Output power (Down/Up):
    19.5 dBm / 12.3 dBm
    FEC Events (Down/Up):
    62486 / 30
    CRC Events (Down/Up):
    145 / 26
    Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
    0 / 0
    HEC Events (Down/Up):
    2501 / 4
    Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
    245 / 94
    Is anyone able to offer any advice on what the problem may be?
    I'm on BT Unlimited Broadband (up to 20Mb) and the speed is so bad that I can barely use BBC Iplayer without buffering for ages.
    Thanks

    Hi Welcome to the forums
    youe speed has dropped  because of disconnections of your hub  causing a drop in your ip profile if you do the following  then we can help you further 
    If you post the full stats from your router
    For homehub – type 192.168.1.254 into your browser
    Navigate to ADSL Settings or use the A-Z at the top right of the home page and scroll down to ADSL Settings and click on it
    Click on More Details and then post the full results.
    also post the full results from http://speedtester.bt.com/
    Have you tried connecting to the test socket at the rear of the master socket
    Have you tried the quiet line test? - dial 17070 option 2 - should hear nothing - best done with a corded phone. if cordless phone you may hear a 'dull hum' which is normal
    also you could try the hints given by poster RogerB in this link they may help http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-in-Home/Poor-Broadband-speed/m-p/14217#M8397
    This is a customer to customer self help forum the only BT presence here are the forum moderators
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  • Massive Reduction in Broadband Speed

    Hi,
    I am having woes with my BT Broadband Connection and am having absolutely zero joy in plotting a path through the indian call centre scripted process.
    It all began about 7 days ago when both my telephone stopped working and my broadband speed collapsed to about 100kbps DL
    I actually didnt notice the landline issue (I barely use it) so I reported the fault as a broadband speed issue.
    To be fair to BT they diagnosed the broader issue and raised a fault on the PSTN line which an engineer came out to look at and got my telephone working again by recapping the cable on the last hop on the street just outside my house.
    This however has left me with broadband that is still incredibly unusably slow. Looking at the information I have available to me it seems to be due in my eyes due to an ongoing low SNR on a degraded line that has been made good enough for a phone call but not to provide a decent broadband connection speed.
    I have captured some stats from the HH2 for those interested
    VPI/VCI 0/38
    Type PPPoA
    Modulation ITU-T G.992.5
    Latency type Interleaved
    Noise margin (Down/Up) 30.6 dB / 5.8 dB
    Line attenuation (Down/Up) 39.5 dB / 20.9 dB
    Output power (Down/Up) 20.5 dBm / 12.4 dBm
    Download speedachieved during the test was - 211 Kbps
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    Additional Information:
    Your DSL Connection Rate :572 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 852 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
    IP Profile for your line is - 350 Kbps
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    xDSL linestate up (ITU-T G.992.5; downstream: 575 kbit/s, upstream: 854 kbit/s; output Power Down: 20.6 dBm, Up: 12.4 dBm; line Attenuation Down: 39.5 dB, Up: 20.9 dB; snr Margin Down: 5.0 dB, Up: 29.5 dB)
    The call centre seem to be telling me they think the problem is one dealt with by BT wholesale and that they as my ISP cannot help me. As far as I can tell from the BT wholesale website however they dont deal with the general public. What do I need to say to these people to get a BT wholesale engineer to come and fix the line ?
    They have already done something called an extended diagnosis ? However the call centre guy said he couldnt see the results of it on his system.
    It is all getting rather frustrating as each time I ring I have to spend a good 30 mins running through the standard call centre checks including replacing microfilters, unscrewing faceplate on wall connection to connect to "test socket" etc. which seems pretty pointless at this stage.

    welcome to the forum
    have you always been on 21CN up to 20mb or did you receive an email recently from BT advising about exchange upgrade?
    From the brief stats you have posted I think all the problems with your line has caused numerous disconnections/resets which the exchange has seen as a bad noise problem and you are currently in a banded profile until your line stabilises.
    Normally this last 3/5 days and if there are no further resets/disconnections and you stay connected 24/7 then your speed your speed should return to normal.
    please can you post the adsl stats from your router may need to 'show detail' to get all stats (if hub enter 192.168.1.254 in your browser and navigate to adsl or use a-z, if netgear enter 192.168.0.1)
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  • VERY slow broadband speeds (0.76mbps) Phoneline?

    VERY slow broadband speeds (0.76mbps)
    Options 
    on 28-10-2012 12h38
    ROUTER STATISTICS
    System Up Time: 0:08:24
    Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up TimeWANLANWLAN
    MER
    2351
    2177
    0
    136
    104
    0:00:56
    324
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0:08:24
    6762
    6743
    0
    164
    132
    0:07:57
    ADSL Link Downstream UpstreamConnection SpeedLine AttenuationNoise Margin
    766 kbps
    414 kbps
    48.5 db
    27.1 db
    15.7 db
    16.3 db
    I'm with Sky, and have had very slow broadband for a while now. Above are the statistics from the test socket. Sky seem to think there is a problem with the line. I've now plugged the router into the main socket. 
    Any help would be appreciated. 
    **EDIT** My phone line is with BT, my broadband is with Sky. The problem Sky says is with the phone line it seems. 

    Hi Joe,
    Try sticking your telephone number into this line tester page and let us know if it finds a fault. If it comes back clear, you'll need to go back to Sky as there'll be no issues with your telephone line. If it comes back with a line fault, we can get it progressed towards a fix
    Dean
    BTCare Community Mod
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  • Slow broadband speed/connection dropping.

    Hi, I discovered yesterday that my Hub was unable to connect to broadband, this was around 5pm, at around 7-8pm, the hub was then able to connect to broadband, but with painfully slow speeds, (under 1Mbps download). Connection ha not been any better today and regularly cuts out before reconnecting. Until around 5pm the broadband cut out completely, and did not reconnect. Much like yesterday's problem. It can't be a line fault without our house as the phone works fine, and the broadband was reaching 7Mbps downloads before Wednesday. It's as if BT have come out and downgraded the line. Infact, I'm writing this message using a BT Openzone hotspot from another router in my street, which is capable of 3Mbps download speeds, much faster than what my Hub is able to manage.
    Obviously can't give ADSL stats as there is no connection to the Broadband.
    Any ideas as to what the problem might be, and how to solve it?

    Hi Welcome to the forums
    Here are some help pages done by CL Keith http://www.btinternet.com/~cbeddoe/wireless/hub3_wireless.html
    If you post the full stats from your router
    For homehub – type 192.168.1.254 into your browser
    Navigate to ADSL Settings or use the A-Z at the top right of the home page and scroll down to ADSL Settings and click on it
    Click on More Details and then post the full results.
    also post the full results from http://speedtester.bt.com/
    Have you tried connecting to the test socket at the rear of the master socket
    Have you tried the quiet line test? - dial 17070 option 2 - should hear nothing - best done with a corded phone. if cordless phone you may hear a 'dull hum' which is normal
    also you could try the hints given by poster RogerB in this link they may help http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-in-Home/Poor-Broadband-speed/m-p/14217#M8397
    Then someone here may be able to help and offer more advice.
    This is a customer to customer self help forum the only BT presence here are the forum moderators
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