Off color printing

I have to say I don't think this is an Epson problem. I have both an Epson 2200 and a Xerox Phaser solid ink printer, and I've suddenly turned up unable to get decent color from either of them. All the posts I've seen here seem to concentrate on Epson printers, but there is no doubt in my case that it also afflicts my Phaser.
A couple weeks ago they both printed with beautiful color. The last few days, total crap. The problem arose somewhere between upgrade to Snow Leopard 10.6.0 and the installation of 10.6.2, as when I first installed Snow Leopard, the prints were great. They turned crappy while I was running 10.6.1. I have no idea why, but I am about to do an archive and install on 10.6.0 and see if I can recover.
What I'm seeing on both is that regardless of whether I use the Gutenprint driver or the Epson driver, or the Xerox driver, and regardless of whether I use color management by the printer driver or have Photoshop or Lightroom do it, and regardless of which paper profile I select, everything has a greenish cast to it. I've one photo in particular of a black and gray dog on a red wagon seat, and the dog comes out muddy, the seat turns fluorescent green. To be sure the different set ups and printers wind up with changed colors depending upon how they are set up, but the green more or less pollutes everything, and that darn seat is always VERY green and not at all red.
I don't have time this week to do the archive and install, so if anybody can shed some light on this problem before I do it next week, I'm all ears.

I am having a similar problem with my Canon ip4000 and Aperture. I was printing much better after one update to Aperture but now everything has a yellow cast to it. I've downloaded the recent drivers and tried to adjust the yellow but to no avail.

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I Use Macbook Pro OSX 10.8.2
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I have been lookoing in the print dialogue and I can not find any way to turn off colour managment...
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Canon Pixma Pro9000 Mark 2 - HELP! - switching off color management in the print dialog

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I'm using Lightroom 5 to print. I'm selecting a custom profile in the print section and lightroom says in italics below
"when selecting a custom profile, remember to switch off color management in the print dialog."
Can someone explain to me how to do that?
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Yosemite.
Many thanks
Stuart

It may be a little different with the 9000 as it is several models back by now. But what I explained should be close.
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Turning off color managment in Canon Pro-10 printer driver

Hi,
I am using Lightroom 5 to print to a Canon Pro-10 printer. How do I disable the color management in the printer driver. I have selected the appropriate canon PRO-10 profile in Lightroom and it says to turn off color management in the printer driver dialogue box but I don't see where / what to do

"my monitor has been calibrated"
I hear this all the time. It is the main reason I don't like all the calibration gadgets out there. You need to "calibrate" your monitor to what your printer is printing. Not some spec some gadget thinks it should be.
You need to know what the bias of the printer is. In this case Canon has put a reddish bias in it's printers to simulate a warm look. This condition will not be accounted for in calibration software or monkeys.
Get your brightness, contrast and grey-scale right and the rest will take care of itself. You can do the necessary corrections in LR to make up for, or leave as is, the warm tone from the printer.
BTW, you should be working in AdobeRGB or higher. Factoid, you can not get every color to match. This is not possibile. You are dealing with two completely different mediums. Light and dyes. Adjusting any color effects other colors as well.
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So, CAN I turn off the printer's color management? Pixma Pro-100.

So, I am trying to turn off the color management function for the Pro-100...
On my Windows desktop, I use Photoshop to print with Canson Rag 210, color profile installed, allow photoshop to manage colors and print a beautiful, perfect print with the Mark 9000. Now, I have the Pixma Pro-100 and using the exact same settings, I print wirelessly with my laptop, and I get these dark, red/orange hued prints that are atrocious.
I should mention the same exact photograph printed between setups ALWAYS prints better with the Mark 9000 and my desktop. However, when using my laptop and the Mark 9000... Crap. Laptop and Pixma Pro-100... Crap. What is my MAC doing that my desktop is not?! How can identical settings print such drastic results? Photoshop does warn me (newer version on my MAC vs. Windows) to turn off the printer's color management in the printer's settings, but I do not see that option. Maybe I'm missing it? How do I do that? I'm thinking it may help!

Have you tried printing from the MacBook using Canon Print Studio Pro or letting printer manage colors? I know this doesn't specifically answer your question, but PSP is designed to handle the PS/printer interface.
Download PSP 1.3.5 from the Canon support site.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/printers_multifunction/pixma_pro_series/pixma_pro_100...
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Thanks John. I tried deleting the Epson printer folder from the library like you said and then checked for Software Updates. But Apple did not indicate that there were any for my OS (probably because I had installed the latest OS update this morning). So I installed the driver from the Epson site with the printer folder removed. But this did not work because when I tried to print the computer indicated that there were missing files. So, I reinstalled the Epson folder that I had just moved to trash, deleted the new Epson folder, then tried reinstalling the Epson driver with the original folder in place. THIS WORKED! Finally, I am off and printing but with little knowledge gained about the inner workings of my computer.

Turn off color management in printer driver?

Hello folks:
When I select an icc color profile in Aperture 3 in the Print dialog box, a warning pops up that says "Turn off Color Management in the Printer Driver." I have an Epson R2880, but for the life of me I cannot find a way to turn it off in the driver. Any thoughts? The Epson Printer Utility is also of no help.
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Understanding that I have not actually used ColorJunki:
-- A printer is always going to have something manage color. Either an ICC profile at the application level, or the printer driver.
-- The warning is poorly worded. It means "Turn off the PRINTER color management and let Colorsync manage colors." Thus on the greyed out screen you will see that Colorsync is selected.
-- To use a printer profiler you normally print a target sheet. Your software should tell you what settings to use.
-- Next you read the target sheet and the profiler makes you an ICC profile of your printer/paper combination. (The same process that Canon, Epson, Red River, Illford, et al. follow.)
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-- You use that same profile to print. (Remember, the profile is specific to a printer/paper combination and you will still have to set Quality/Media correctly for the paper.)
By selecting the correct ICC profile on the first print screen, you automatically kill printer color management and, with a bit of luck, a good profile, and clement atmospheric conditions, you will actually get a good print.
Trust me on this, I have been getting great prints from Aperture for years. My only gripe is that AP3 no longer lets me at the color options which I used to tweak for my cheap and cheerful Costco paper.

How to turn off color management in Canon MX860 for printer profile

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Just got the answer from Spyder:
his applies to ALL Canon printers drivers running under both Leopard and Snow Leopard and it's the correct "solution" to get them to print without color management (a critical, unavoidable requirement for building custom printer profiles with any 3rd party printer profiling solution).
Make sure you're running OSX 10.6.2 or whatever the latest is. There have also been some Canon driver updates that will show up in System Preferences:Software Update, so make sure you've got nothing left to apply as an update. Another way to make sure you have the latest Canon driver installed: go to Print & Fax, select your current Canon driver, and click on Options and Supplies... to see what version it is. (It should be 10.26.0.0 or later, and here's the Apple list of latest drivers for all printers):
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3669
If you don't have the most recent driver, then click "-" to remove the older Canon driver from the list. Then, with the printer attached and powered on, click "+", and add back the driver for it (this should download and install the latest version for you).
Now: when you PRINT and want to turn off color management in Spyder3Print, THIS is the way to do it:
In the Color Matching pane of the driver, select ColorSync (not Vendor Matching, or Canon Color Matching!)
In the popup beneath that, you'll see "Automatic"; a list of all the Canon standard profiles; and a command to choose from other profiles. Use that last command to see a list of all profiles on your system.
Select "Generic RGB" from the list. (this is the key). Then say OK and you'll see that "Generic RGB" shows beneath the ColorSync radio button in the Color Matching pane. This is the secret to disabling color management with the Canon drivers in Snow Leopard (and it also works in Leopard, as well, although in that case, a warning gets displayed underneath "Generic RGB", which can be ignored)
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NOW you should get a properly dark (non-color-managed) target print. Measure this and build a profile.
Printing with "No Color Management" from Photoshop actually works the same way. It invisibly pushes through "Generic RGB" or an equivalent when you choose "No Color Management" in its Print dialog, This is why, in the Color Matching pane of the driver, ColorSync subsequently comes up auto-selected and also disabled; Photoshop has done the same thing I just described "under the hood" and as a result, that choice in the driver gets "locked".
When printing through the profile in Photoshop: do it the usual way. (Photoshop Manages Colors, choose the profile, Saturation intent, etc etc etc). It should work fine.
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Epsom R2400 Printer - turning off color adjustment in CS3

Printing very well with R2400 in CS2 but.....
In Photoshop CS2 there was a button to allow Photoshop to control the color printing by selecting it and later to select 'no color adjustment' This worked out great.
In Photoshop CS3 I can also select Photoshop to control the color management but the images come out wrong. Cannot find ' no color adjustment button.' CS3 Help says "turn off color management for printer profile settings.' Where or how do I do this?
Thanks for any help you can provide. Roy

HI Ramon, After PRINT and in the Epsom R2400 dialogue box (layout page) there are only the following selections offered:
Color matching (nothing available to select)
Paper Handling
Paper Feed
Cover Page
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Summary
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Falling behind in my work and appreciate your time, Roy

Turning off color with eprint/airprint

I have a Laserjet Pro 300 color MFP. I no longer have an immediate need for the color capability. I do a lot of printing from my iPhone, and if the page I am on has color, the printer (of course) prints in color, wasting those very expensive color cartridges. Is there some way to completely disable the color function on this Printer, either through the printer app or at the printer? What if I just take out the color cartridges?

HI Ramon, After PRINT and in the Epsom R2400 dialogue box (layout page) there are only the following selections offered:
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How do I turn off color management in my Epson Stylus Photo R1900

How do I turn off color management in my Epson Stylus Photo R1900 printer? I am using the laetest Epson driver, I am using Adobe Photoshop CS5 and I'm using OSX 10.5.8.
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I have researched the matter a lot and I,
along with many others, still have problems with this complicated
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Color management is as simple in theory as Honoring a Source Profile and CONVERTING it to a Target Profile (monitor or printer) for Proofing.
But yes, we work at the mercy of the rocket scientists who try to dumb an extremely complicated process down so regular folks (like me) can make it work — trouble is I think their approach needs a bit more distilling and common sense sometimes...but it is very doable once you put in the time to figure it out, just follow the CHAIN in your workflow if you're still having problems.
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CS6: Can't switch off color management in the printerdriver when photoshop manages colors

So this is weird: I'm using CS6 Extended and Lightroom 5 on a Windows 7 Pro machine, printing to an old Canon Pixma Ip5200R. When i print from Lightroom, i am using a special printer profile for the pixma and my photopaper, so color management is switched off in the printer driver. The photos print fine.
Now when i print the same photo from CS6, it has a magenta color cast, so clearly something is wrong with the color management. Even though i am using the same printer, the same paper, the same printer profile and - of course! - had set photoshop to manage the colors, and switched color managent off in the printer driver. The magenta cast could be an indication that the photo is double colormanaged.
It took my quite a while to find out what happens, and this is really weird: When i re-checked the printer driver settings, i noticed that the color management settings did not stick. The canon printer driver offers the options "driver matching" "windows ICM" "none", e.g. having color management done by the printer driver or windows, or switch color management off. So when i go to the PS print settings and set it to "photoshop manages colors", add the correct printer profile, i have to check the settings in the printer driver and make sure that color management is set to "none". I set it to "none" and click OK. Now everything should be configured correctly. But it's not - because when i re-check the print driver settings, i see color management is set to "diver matching". I can go to the print driver settings again and agian, but whenever i check, color management is set to "driver matching". This setting simply does not stick. No wonder i get a mangenta cast on my prints, the colors are doublemanaged by photoshop AND my printer driver.
Now, this is getting weirder: Only the color management settings don't stick. I can change other settings like print quality and the stick.
But - how do i get rid of this? The culprit seems to be photoshop, not the printer driver. If i print from lightroom, i can change the color management settings in the (very same) printer driver and they stick. When i set the photoshop print dialogue to "printer manages colors" i can change the color management settings in the (very same) printer driver - and they stick! So this looks as if photoshop stops me intentionally from using the correct printer driver settings, that is from switching off the printer drivers color management if it is set to manage colors.
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Hi all, Just to let you know that I finally solved my problem myself.
Essentially what had occurred was that I had updated my Epson driver for my printer , but it hadn't installed, despite informing me that it had! To cut a long story short when I checked in System preferences the older driver for Leopard O/S was still the current driver. I proceeded to ask Epson support for assistance, bu despite their efforts I could not immediately resolve the problem. They were directing me to my Utilities program to remove all traces of my current driver from Printer Utility which did not exist. When I queried this they stated it was not always visible and I should proceed to the next step then install the new driver. Problem was they required me to access this invisible utility in order to complete this process, and yes before you ask I had informed them I was using an Intel Mac with Snow Leopard 10.6.2 O/S. Finally I ignored their advice and took the following steps:
1. I opened System Preferences and double clicked the Printer & Fax icon.
2. I highlighted my Epson R2400 Pinter and removed it by clicking the minus sign at the bottom of the Printers window.
3. Next I did a search and deleted any old drivers for my R2400 that were on my system with the exception of the new Driver.
4. I restarted my Mac Pro.
5. I reinstalled my new printer driver which I had previously downloaded from Epson Support.
6. I restarted my Mac Pro and found that the new driver had installed correctly and full functionality had been returned to the Print Features Dialogue box i.e I could now turn of color management and access advanced features to set the quality of printing using the full spec of the R2400.
Hope this post will be helpful to others if they have a similar problem
Regards Denis
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Problem with Color Print in Illustrator. Photoshop fine. Epson R2400

OK.. I’ve spent all morning trying to troubleshoot bad color on Illustrator CS4 to Epson R2400 and can’t find a solution. Mac 10.5.8
I’m getting off color (but a neutral grayscale) when printing to from AI 14.0 to Epson Stylus Photo R2400. This just started today. The graphic prints fine in Photoshop.
The main color in logo is R-125, G-69, B-73 in sRGB editing space. It prints very magenta from AI to Epson 2400. Prints fine to my HP laser and fine to PDF.
I’m not new to Color Management and I’ve double-checked all the usual suspects.
Recalibrated Monitor
Re-installed Epson print driver (v6.57)
checked ink nozzles
Checked color settings (synched in Bridge to NA Gen Purpose 2)
checked proper document and printer/paper profile are selected (sRGB to Matte HW)
checked Relative Colorimetric
in Printer dialog checked proper Media Type selected (Epson Matte HW)
and that Color Settings were set to No Color Management.
trashed AI Preferences.
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Yea! Working today. One of these things did it, I think. (unfortunately, I did not test after each one)
Recalibrated monitor, again
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Why is a color print from CS5 so different from the same image in CS4?

I have made prints from the same file using CS4 and CS5, and the prints from CS4 are showing what I think is good color. My monitor is calibrated, and I have always been quite happy with prints from CS4. When I make prints of the same files using CS5, the color is terrible compared to the CS4 print. I am using the same printer, same sRGB color space and all the settings in the "Print" dialog windows. I make sure the Color Handling box is set to "Photoshop Manages Colors" and I then go to the "Page Setup" box and make sure Color Settings is set to Off (No Color Adjustments). I am using a New MacPro Quad-Core Intel Xeon with 16 GB ram. I did notice that Apple Software Update did install Epson drivers after I installed CS5 Creative Suite 5 Design Premium. The color using CS5 looks the same starting in either 32 bit or in 64 bit. Another thing I notice is that printing on an Epson 2200 Stylus and using their 13x19 paper that the prints are being cropped to 5/8 inch into the full screen size of the images. I.E. The prints are losing 5/8 inch of what I see on the 30" Apple monitor. in both dimensions of the screen image. This cropping effect is showing now using CS4 and CS5. I have "Position" checked for Center Image, and Scale to Fit Media is also checked. I've been using PS since version 2 and have always been quite happy with the prints from my Epson printers and the prints from my Photo Lab, but the prints I am getting using CS5 are terrible. All the settings are the same in both the CS4 and CS5 "PRINT" windows.
HELP!!!! :-)

I have tried all of these things. I have checked and double-checked the print dialog. Sheet after sheet of paper goes by. Ink, at $40 per tank, is wasted. Results are still wrong. I followed your video. You use an Epson printer. I use an HP. Different print dialogs. different results. Whatever worked in previous PS versions does not work now. PS CS5 requires new settings to get the results that match what was determined by years of evolution and fine-tuning.
I set up all of those print dialog parameters but it required an adjustment layer or two to get the results I got using previous Photoshop. So I could do that with every image I printed with good results using previous versions. There is nothing out of gamut in these images, so I don't have unrealistic expectations about more saturation in the prints. Anyway, it's an 8-color printer that can handle a pretty wide gamut compared to a 4-color.
Wade, I know you are trying to help but this finger-wagging "error in your ways" and "you need to change your ways" stuff is patronizing. I did "change my ways" and try everything in your video. All was not well on the paper. I'm glad it worked out for you but it didn't for me. Accept it. I'm not some novice hobbyist still getting the hang of Photoshop. I've been using Photoshop since version 2. Adobe changed something in CS5. I haven't seen Chis Cox or any Adobe staffer jump into this discussion and say otherwise. Maybe there are no answers from the folks who should know the most about it. Maybe they're working on it.
It's not the first time Adobe has broken a tool. Anyone remember what happened to Outline Stroke in Illustrator CS2? It had previously made a path that could be edited by selecting points but after CS2, it was broken. Illustrator made a filled path that was nearly impossible to edit with all of the overlapping points. It was finally fixed in CS4. It's hard to understand how a useful tool that functioned properly in every version since it was introduced became an unusable mess. Maybe that's the case with PS CS5 and printing.
With 4,300+ posts in 14 months, maybe Wade has more time to tinker and tell us about it. I don't.
Or I could just print in CS4. At this point it's not that important to spend several days of testing to be able to say that CS5 can print my legacy stuff that was created and printed with various color profiles over a 12 year period. Maybe a more disciplined approach to color management would be a good way to work in the future when creating images, I'm dealing with tried-and-true printable images that were not done that way.
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Why do the colors in images embedded in word (TIFF/JPEG) export off-color from Acrobat?

I chose this forum as opposed to the printing and pre-press forum because I have a very limited existing knowledge of color space and profile matching and I didn't want to be (1) shunned and (2) overwhelmed by the level of technical detail.
When I attempt to PDF a word document that contains a TIFF image, the TIFF image appears SIGNIFICANTLY off color. I was able to substantially correct the problem by extracting the TIFF image within the Word document and resaving it as a JPEG, but it still isn't 100%.
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I'm using Windows 7; Word 2010; and Acrobat X. I also have Photoshop CS5.1 and InDesign CS4.
My color SETTINGS are matched in each application to be tied to my monitor, and my monitor is set to the system default, which is a system default: :sRGBIEC61966-2.1"
I'm using the document for professional purposes, so color matching is important to me, but I'm working with what is available to me at a nonprofit, so that means an Acer X183h monitor and a Canon iR C5185 networked office printer and no real color management policy or equipment.
I'm looking for the best possible solution to maintain color performance between the monitor and the printer.

Incredibly as I posted this the solution came to me - I leave it to the moderators to determine whether this should be preserved or deleted. I wasn't able to find any help on this and it might be valuable to other users.
The image itself that was embedded in the Word Document had a CMYK color profile. It was displaying appropriately in the software, but wouldn't convert to PDF or print. I opened the source file in Photoshop and converted it to my working profile, then re-added it to the word document and it is now reliably reproducing in the right color.
Since dropping outside images into word is a common (if also poor) work process for people creating documents in the nonprofit sector, I think this kind of information could be valuable in the knowlegebase.

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