Off Host Backup for Hyper-V

Hi<o:p></o:p>
We have a 3 Node Hyper-V Cluster with a Dell 6000
Equalogic SAN connected over 10 GB iSCSI. Actually we use Backup Exec 2012 for
Hyper-V Backup, but I am looking for a Off Host Solution to Backup all Hyper-V
over the San Network. Symantec support Offhost ore ADBO for SQL or Exchange but
not Hyper-V. I am looking for a new good Backup Solution for this Problem. <o:p></o:p>
Thanks for all Tips<o:p></o:p>
Best reagards
Röndi
Roendi
What do you mean by "off host"? Do you want to have backup software running directly on top of EQL firmware? Or do you want to avoid proxy servers and have steady stream from EQL to backup storage?
-nismo

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Adrian,
I have DPM 2012 R2 backing up a HV 2012 R2 cluster. One of the SANs we have is a HP P4000. VSS hardware writers work..........but as you discovered...........the backups go over regular TCP/IP network...........not over iSCSI. Same thing happens
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