Off Topic - Forum Bandwidth Usage

I recently noticed that every time I do a "refesh" of the Java Programming page that about 340kb of data is downloaded. The actual source HTML file is only about 50kb which means that about 290kb of data that should have been cached is being downloaded a second time (ie. I expect that the JavaScript and Stylesheets and Images would be cached, but they don't appear to be).
This is eating into my month download usage (and probably a reason for slow forum response).
For my full obsersavations and questions, please see this posting:
[http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5292806]

I tried to post the question in a forum that I thought Sun people might visit. I then linked to that posting so the conversation could be kept in a single place.
The point of the question was not to discuss Internet access plans.
Based on that, I decided to turn off JavaScript, which reduced my traffic by about 80%,That was the point of my question!
It is my understanding the the JavaScript files ( and style sheet files and image files) required by the forum should be cached automatically. This seems to be happening on other websites.
So is this a Sun forum problem (likely) or a problem with my machine?
I was hoping to get a few comments in the other posting so that when I complain to Sun I have other opinions to back me up that this indeed is a Sun problem.

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Forum Atom feed and the Off-Topic forum

I'm subscribed via https://bbs.archlinux.org/extern.php?ac … der=posted and I've just noticed I don't get any notification if a new thread gets opened in Off-Topic forum. I haven't yet checked if any other forum is also excluded.
I know that I can subscribe to this forum via 'Subscribe to this forum' but according to http://projects.archlinux.org/vhosts/bb … extern.php the default feed shouldn't miss any subforums, as there are no nfids mentioned.
What am I missing?

ngoonee wrote:
Inxsible wrote:I don't mind opening the off-topic section as read only to not logged-in users/non-members
As I recall off-topic, dustbin, and TGN are log-in so that moderation there can be slightly more lenient, since its guaranteed its only our community in the place (no lurkers)? Not part of the 'main' forums in that sense, then.
EDIT: lurkers and/or bots, which is the main point.
This is correct. We don't want someone to type "Arch Linux" in a search engine and to get, as the first link, an off-topic forum thread about some random absurdities or some TGN rant. The same goes with someone visiting the forum to see what kind of community Arch Linux has before installing it. It's a question of giving a good first impression while still being able to have a good time.

Why does the off-topic forum is only for registered users ?

I discovered that when sending a link to the "I'm a nerd..." thread to co-workers, and they couldn't see it.

off-topic is Arch specific and solely to the community only.iirc this had been said earlier too.

Suggestion: General Discussions\Off Topic Section

hi,
it would be great to have an off topic forum/section here for us to interact and have general discussions. almost every forum i'm a member of has an Off Topic section. we can get to know each other much better and share useful information and opinions about various topics, technology and others also. we can do the same through PM's, but getting everyone involved will feel much better.
Make it easier for other people to find solutions, by marking my answer with \'Accept as Solution\' if it solves your problem.
Click on the BLUE KUDOS button on the left to say "Thanks"
I am an ex-HP Employee.

if they start posting technical questions or spam here, then they should be banned!
EDIT: in other news, my reputation level increased!
Message Edited by DexterM on 01-07-2009 11:44 PM
Make it easier for other people to find solutions, by marking my answer with \'Accept as Solution\' if it solves your problem.
Click on the BLUE KUDOS button on the left to say "Thanks"
I am an ex-HP Employee.

Off topic: posting XML/HTML in these forums

How do you post XML to these forums? Encoding the < as > just gets interpreted as a literal, but using straight XML doesn't work because if there's overlap with HTML, the XML gets formatted as HTML. Here's an example -- if you have an XML tag called "s" (< s n a m e = " f o o " > b a r < / s > ), look what happens (because of the strikethrough HTML tag): <s name="foo">bar</s>.
Sorry to post off-topic!
Chris Bucchere | bdg | [email protected] | www.bdg-online.com

Hello red_menace,
Indeed a pre-processing code like yours is always an option for us, but from my point of view, the correct solution is for the discussions' admins to disable this meddlesome formatting feature of the new fora software.
This new feature affects not only new posts but also the existing messages in the fora, that means it has rendered quite a few useful messages totally useless. This is actually serious data loss caused by the thoughtless software. And for what?
After all, these discussions' boards are not chat rooms where people might want some simple input methods for fancy text formattings, but technical support fora where people frequently post programming codes, computer outputs and so forth that have many reserved symbols and notation.
I really wish they may fix this promptly.
Best regards,
Hiroto

Forums: Off-Topic tags

Hi,
It is very common to see off-topic posts in forums as discussions usually engender new questions, shared experiences, etc... Anyway, could we imagine an OT tag that would, for example, color text or frame it or whatever, in order to make it easy to sort what's OT and what's not ?

[OT=avatar]
[OT=avatar]what an odd avatar you have[/OT]
That's my japanese pacman under steroids[/OT]
If you want to go extra features right now, options to show/hide [OT][/OT] could be nice too (like the spoilers tag on some movies forums with show or hide as default in your profile)
Last edited by bangkok_manouel (2008-02-01 10:20:37)

Newbie wireless question (slightly off-topic)

I didn't want to post this here as it's not entirely an Airport-specific question. I posted this to the iBook forums, but nobody there has answered so my apologies if this is not welcome here. (Any moderators can remove it if that's the case.)
I've been using computers extensively for over a decade, but I'm a total newbie to wifi. I just set up a wireless network in my house and would appreciate some advice/feedback.
My main concerns are whether or not my network is reasonably secure. I know there is no such thing as perfect security, but I don't know if what I've done is good enough or not.
I don't have an Airport base station, but I do have a D-Link Airplus G and an Airport card in my iBook. I have WEP set up on the router and I have enabled MAC filtering, listing only my desktop and my iBook, excluding all others from the network.
I'm fairly certain that nobody in my neighborhood is going to get into my machines this way or be able to sniff my network data stream, but am I right in assuming that nobody can "piggyback" on my Internet connection too? Presumably, if everyone but my own machines are MAC-filtered and kept out, then the Internet connection is also protected. Is that how it works?

WEP and MAC filtering are better than nothing, but you can do better. These are my suggestions:
1. Use WPA with a pre-shared key (PSK) and TKIP encryption on your Netgear router, along with an alphanumeric passphrase of at least eight characters not found in any dictionary. The equivalent setting on your Mac is "WPA Personal". Unlike WEP security (which an expert can crack in under half an hour), WPA security is currently unhackable by any practical means as long as you use a non-dictionary passphrase. One last point - WPA security requires all your wireless Macs to be running MacOS 10.3 or newer.
2. MAC filtering is (these days) essentially useless as a wireless security method. Using "packet sniffing" of traffic on your wireless network to find out what MAC addresses are used by computers on your network, and a PC that allows its MAC address to be cloned so that it is identical to the MAC address of one your own wireless computers (which is possible with most PC wireless network adapters) even an amateur hacker can defeat MAC address filtering in minutes.
By the way - I don't think your posted message here is off topic. In my opinion, the Airport discussion forums are the best place to post any questions related to usage of wireless networks. Questions of this nature are virtually never specific to any Mac model.

Off Topic: Increase Blog LogSize

Hi,
I am sorry for asking an off topic question... How do I increase/reset log space for my blog (on www.blogger.com) for which I have enabled statistics collection from www.statcounter.com?? (ofcourse for free)
It (www.statcounter.com) says it has reached the maximum size. "Current Log Usage: 100. Total Log Size: 100."
Do you suggest any other website which does this for free??
Regards

Well, according to the StatCounter FAQ the current limit for their free service is 500. But then the StatCounter knowledge base says the limit is 100.
As you seem to be running into the lower limit I think the best thing for you to do is to side up with the StatCounter Users' forum and ask the question there.
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How can i calculate the bandwidth usage of my Azure subscription?

Hi,
I know currently there is no API which provide bandwidth usage details. Is there any other way to find out my subscription's bandwidth usage?
Thank you!

Hi,
Please have a look at below thread.
#http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4590682/how-to-measure-windows-azure-bandwidth-usage-programmatically
Here is a snippet.
The Azure SDK doesn't provide any billing or consumption information programatically. As lgorek stated, you can approximate usage with IIS And WCF performance counters.And you'll also be able to use your own logging to track traffic from different users.
However, you won't be able to track bandwidth consumed when users download content from blob storage. Well, you could, but only if all of your blobs were private and you streamed their content through your web application instead of direct links on your web
pages .
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Slightly off topic: JDev + 10g + recommended laptop

Hi gang
This is a slightly off-topic post in the forum. Apologies to the forum moderators up front.
I'm in the process of purchasing a new laptop for development. Among other things I need to run Oracle 10g, + JDev + Solitaire.
My assumption for such a laptop is I'll need a fast hd (7200rpm+) for builds, and lots of memory to run Oracle 10g and memory hogging Java JDev. Also extra screen real-estate would be ideal with the multi-pane JDev.
However without the ability to walk into a laptop supplier, load up the software and do some tests, I'm not sure what would be sufficient. I don't want to go overboard on features in order to save $s, but I don't want something that wont run fast enough without bugging the Hell out of me either.
Does anybody have any recommendations on what laptop they are currently running or what they would buy to run Oracle 10g + JDev? Are my assumptions correct or does anybody run this config with less, happily?
Any help appreciated.
Cheers,
CM.

I have been doing all of my jdev + oracle development exclusively on my PowerBook G4 for over a year now. JDev 9.0.5.2 runs great, and so does the new 10.1.3 preview. I have upgraded the memory on it to 1.5 GB, but even with the stock 512 it ran well. Plus, there are all of the productivity benefits from running Mac OS X. I was skeptical about it at first, as you might be, but once I switched over, I haven't even looked back. The 17 inch screen is beautiful, it works just fine on the Windows network at work, has all of the Unix tools underneath, and for the very few times a windows machine is needed, Virtual PC helps out. Do yourself a favor and check it out.
Mike

Off topic: General comment

All,
I know this is totally off-topic but this is the best way to send a very important message.
One of those days, someone called to us to offer Solaris support services, because that person was reading this forum and saw our entries. I guess, if we are here asking for help, and helping others, the idea is to use the community to achieve better results.
I understand that every business needs to make money, but there are some limits as well. If we had any interest to hire a consulant and pay for him/her services, we would not be here making posts.
Also, what is much more important, is to share information and knowledge about a product, Solaris, which is open source now.
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I broke my last Epson while leaping up and down upon it in an apoplectic rage in such circumstances. Really.
But it seems you are right, we have no option. Finally, Print Shop by Broderbund is probably like a high-tech wunderkind chrome robot when compared to the Official Worst Appplication of All Time, Epson Print CD, which closely resembles a turd.
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Request to have off-topic posts moved

There are a number of posts accumulated in the Server and Storage Systems group of forums that are just not on-topic for them.
Generally they've been posted by people that care to not read anything nor drill down to an appropriate forum and just dump a question.
I've done the "report abuse" routine on a number of them but that seems to have been ignored.
Thus this new post.
These are from the last 60 days:
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How to start Galssfish when computer start
Glassfish 3.0.1 updatetool
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AMPostAuthProcessInterface redirect problem
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Weblogic Spring/Sample Application Help
Cannot add new LDAP Group Members in Sun Java Server 7.0
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iText vs Jasper Java Application Source Code
OpenMQ Unack'ed messages causing Java Heap overflow in STOMP
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how can i release lock record?
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Problem using TNS_ADMIN in registry (Ora. 11g R2 Instant client in Win. 7)
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Performance Monitoring
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Visual Web Developer 2010 Express and Oracle ODAC - Oracle data provider
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http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2153592
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2149027
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2128320
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2137784
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1982259
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1574872
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2123572
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2041227
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2077085
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2069660
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2113069
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1981627
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1981082
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http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1979404
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http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1938192
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100 percent bandwidth usage

I have two 2 Cisco 2821-VK/9 routers between 2 offices. The connection between the 2 is a 2 Meg diginet line.
When ever I copy a file between the two sites that is more than 1 Gb in size, the bandwidth usage is 100 % and it takes a very long time to complete.
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Regards
Cyril

Hi Cyril,
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you might want to consider implemented a QoS policy on your network if there isn't one already in place.
You can start with some light reading here.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/5x/50nstrct.html#wp1043960
It won't make your 1Gb files copy faster but it can help stop them choking off your other network traffic.
regards,
Paul

What is the actual bandwidth usage?

When I use Adobe Connect I am online and broadcasting for about 4 hours a day, for 10 days at a time. I only do screen sharing and voice -- no video.
I have DSL Internet. The DSL upload speeds are very poor (under 1Mb). To speed things up, I thought I'd look into getting a 4G hotspot, but I'm worried about actual bandwidth usage, since such plans have a practical limit of 5 or 10Gb per month.
My off-hand guess is that If I were to watch a video of myself, I guess it would be a couple of gigs for a four hour, non-HD video. So by that very rough guestimate, I'd hit 20Gb pretty easily over the 40 hours of my meeting. Is that right the way to think about it?
Has anyone monitored actual consumed bandwidth for a simple meeting of one person talking and sharing his screen? I'm not looking for definitive answers -- just some ballpark estimate of what such a meeting consumes each hour...
Thanks! :-)

Page 22 of this document will give you some numbers that will allow you to estimate the total data used for a meeting. Keep in mind these numbers are what Adobe saw as average consumption, yours may be higher or lower.
http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/products/adobeconnect/pdfs/web-conferencing/Adob e-Connect-9-Technical-Guide.pdf

A bit off topic, but what time should I arrive at the Keynote?

I'm posting this in the FCP forum because this is the only one I read. I'm attending Macworld for the first time and I have the cheap tickets for the Keynote (user's conference). I have no idea how early I need to show up to wait in line to guarantee I get into the Keynote.
Thanks and sorry for the off topic post.

Just showing a pick of what I look like...hee.
I will have an exhibitors pass, so I wonder if I can get in any later and still get good seats? HA! I will bring my lappy, to keep me occupied (I hope they have wireless access).
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