OK to trash OS 9 Classic?

Since Leopard doesn't support Classic, is it OK to trash the OS 9 application folder and system folder?

Verify that none of the applications in the application folder aren't Carbon applications that will run in OS X.
After that, yes you can delete them.

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How do you empty the trash in the Classic Environment?

There was a large file on my desktop, called ".tif" (no filename, just ".tif" and nothing else). It was apparently created by the VueScan scanning software. It was not an image I asked it to scan, it's just some sort of test image. It only appears to applications running in Classic. It does not appear to OSX applications, and the Find command in the OSX Finder can't find it.
Using Sherlock 2, running under Classic, I was able to find this file, but the only thing I could do with it in Sherlock 2 was move it to the Trash. So now, it's sitting in the Trash of the Classic environment, but OSX doesn't see it, the Trash in OSX is empty.
There is no "Empty Trash" command in Sherlock 2, or any other Classic program that I have. All of the third-party utility programs that I have for OS 9, such as Norton Utilities, DiskWarrior, etc., won't run under Classic. When I try to run them, I simply get a message, "That application is not supported by Classic."
So, how can I get rid of this file? It is only visible to the Classic environment. Are there any utility programs that run under Classic that can cause the Classic environment Trash to be emptied?
Thank you

Hi, Bob. I have no way to replicate your problem and test this suggestion on my Mac, but I'm confident that it will work. Download File Buddy 8 and use its Find command to search for a file whose name is .tif, including both visible and invisible files in the search. (The "." at the start of the file's name makes it invisible in OS X). Once you find it, select it in File Buddy's hit list — make very sure you're selecting the right file and only that file — and use the Delete command in FB's File menu — not the Trash button in FB's toolbar. "Delete" will remove the file instantly and irrevocably, no matter where it resides, ignoring the usual rigmarole associated with the Trash.
File Buddy is to the Finder what Photoshop is to QuickTime PictureViewer, or Word is to SimpleText. Anything FB can't do to or with your files (and much of what it can), you should be scared of doing. But when you need it, there's no substitute.

"Microsoft componenet......"Error message

Though I have posted this b4 and I havent gotten any response; here is my sitiuation again, I have OS 9.2.2 and OS X 10.2.8 on my G4 which I have pagemaker 6.5 among other packages.
The pagemaker 6.5 crashed and I saw this error message while trying to reinstall:
The application (null) has unexpectedly quit
Microsoft component library
GetRegQueryClassCallback(-2624)
Pls could anybody help me out.
Thanks in anticipation
power pc G4 Mac OS X (10.2.x)
power pc G4 Mac OS X (10.2.x)

If this runs for a month that seems encouraging and
it may be important to know how exact is "a month"
please? If that's very rough, forget it but if it
happens at the same time, same day each month that's
very suspcious, yes?
Here the Month is just a rough estimate
However, if Pagemaker runs for weeks then crashes and
reinstalling both the application and OS 9 makes no
difference, then the problem is more likely with the
X system...
Yeah reinstalling both the classic and the application makes no difference, but I dont know whether I do miss something along the way; here is how i do it
Trash the application, empty the trash, restart, reinstall classic from my X CD and then reinstall the application from CD
Exactly how does Pagemaker crash, while doing what
please? For instance, one of my printers will run
happily for weeks in both Classic and X but after
weeks, it simply won't be available. After
reinstalling 9 drivers and OS 9 with no effect, I
discovered that the X prefs for that printer were
corrupt; now Trashing them and restarting revives it
every time…
It does'nt crash suddenly, but starts with a sign. The sign comes this way, it will run smoothly for some couple days and stops printing till after restart. Few days afterwards it wont print or open new publication even after restart
If you "can not print and open a new page" this might
be similar... If you can find Preferences for your
particular printer in (main
disk)>Library>Printers>(maker's name)… does Trashing
them and Restarting make any difference?
I havent tried trashing the prefs for my printer. will try that when next it crashes
If this is an X problem and your Mac is old enough to
boot in pure OS 9 yes, that should get round it while
you're in 9…
If your Mac is old enough, you should be able to boot
once in pure OS 9 by Restarting with the Option key
down or by inserting a 9 install CD and Restarting
with "C" held down, or make 9 the default by changing
the setting in System Preferences>Startup Disk.>
My Mac is G4, when I checked the system pref>startup disk could'nt see the option of booting from 9 & dont have any 9 CD, my classic is in X CD. Is there anyway i can do it?
In pure 9 you can turn off Extensions either through
Control Panels>Extensions Manager or more simply by
holding down Caps Shift at Startup.
In Classic 9, turn off Extensions either from System
Preferences>Classic or by holding down Caps Shift at
Classic launch.
On checking preferences>classic it shows extension off
power pc G4 Mac OS X (10.2.x)
power pc G4 Mac OS X (10.2.x)
power pc G4 Mac OS X (10.2.x)
power pc G4 Mac OS X (10.2.x)
power pc G4 Mac OS X (10.2.x)

Best way to prep for migration to new iMac

New 27" Mac (probably i5) on horizon since my G5 is 5-1/2 years old & having power supply issues. G5 using Tiger; never went to Leopard since I wanted to hang on to a few Classic legacy apps, which is no longer possible with new iMac (and I'm ready to let go ). Would it be best to trash all old Classic apps & games before doing final clone to external FW drive (via SuperDuper) in preparation for migration to new Mac? Or should I not worry about it & believe Migration Assistant knows all?

For SuperDuper, just download it again and reinstall. If you paid the optional shareware fee to enable its addition features, you can probably contact the developer if needed to register it again (if the method previously used to register it does not work).
I'm not sure I use Symantec Antivirus, but you should use the latest available version. Again, that would be a new download. If the new version requires paying for an upgrade or new license or some type of annual subscription fee, that's what you should do. If you have an existing license for the latest version, then you should be able to register it again after you download and install.
If you only want to scan for malware, there is a free utility called ClamXav
http://www.clamxav.com/
It does the scans on your command, but does not install any software that runs in the background. To me, that is an advantage. There are no Mac OS X viruses, and other types of malware such as trojans exist, but are not very common (for Mac OS X); as long as you don't go around installing software off the 'net from suspicious sources, periodically running a scan should be sufficient protection. The only things I've ever found were Windows malware embedded in spam emails that I had not bothered to delete yet.
Downloaded software is not any different from software that comes on discs. You are just substituting the downloaded .dmg file for the disc. Even for the software that comes on physical discs, you should check the developer's web site for a newer version. If you want to keep using an older version, you should check to make sure the older version works with the latest Mac OS X 10.6.2 and with Intel Macs. This may be particularly important if some of your older Mac OS X software is for PowerPC. Most PowerPC software runs on Intel Macs using the Rosetta translator, but it would be best to update to Universal or Intel versions, if possible.

Classic System Folder Disappeared or Got Trashed By Mistake

I upgraded from OS 10.3.9 to 10.4.10, and from a G3 iMac to a G4 iMac -- all because the G3 died and I have had to put its hard drive into a USB enclosure to access it, and because one of my LaCie backup drives now needs a complete Data Rescue II.
The problem is this: Classic will not run; an error message appears which says "No System 9 Classic Folder installed." When I upgraded to 10.4, I did a clean install which certainly ought to have included the necessary pared down system 9 necessary for Classic. On the G3, I had both 9.2.2 and 10.3.9 installed, and I suppose I might install 9.2.2 from disks if that will give me a system folder with which to run classic. I think a system folder for Classic 9 got lost or trashed, and needs to be reinstalled. Is there any way to do this?
To reconstitute my G3 10.3.9 System to run the now encased former CPU hard drive, should I install a 10.3.9 system directly to that hard drive, boot from it and thereby access all it contained (including whatever made Classic run on that machine)? Should I install 9.2.2 on that same hard drive? Or install 9.2.2 on the new G4iMac running 10.4.10?
It is so easy to make big mistakes mishandling system folders and contents. Any help and advice is greatly appreciated.
Charles

Again much thanks, Kappy. The Classic Folder in the Library in the Previous System is unfortunately empty. This may be because the Archive was created onto an external hard drive(?). My present machine will not permit me to install OS 9.1 - 9.2 because it cannot start Classic (without a Classic Folder already on the machine:- Catch 22.)
Might I be able to use this G4 iMac in Target Mode, firewire connect it to the eMac G4, then try to install from the installer disk mounted on eMac or directly from OS 9 CD startup disk running the eMac? Somehow I have to get some Classic Folder onto the iMac G4 before it will allow me to do anything with the installation disk. It will not even let me install onto an external hard drive. The eMac however has Classic working properly, and will allow all these things; and the eMac and iMac are already connected as an ethernet network for file sharing and printing (if that mode could be used to install onto iMac from eMac.)
I'm sure there is some way to do this; I just can't get past the necessity for Classic to start first on the iMac within System 10.4.10 -- since there is no Classic folder attached to an OS System 9 to allow it.
Do any of my work-around ideas for targeting the iMac from the eMac have merit? If I haven't entirely exhausted your patience, I would deeply appreciate your advice.
Thanks for taking your time to help me.
Charles

Sent Classic to the Trash-Damaged OSX System Preferences Pane

I decided to delete Classic as I no longer use it. Using Spotlight I identified various Classic files and folders and deleted them.
One of them must have belonged to the OSX System Preferences pane, as the Classic Preferences icon has now disappeared.
Can I get this back? If I need to reinstall Classic later I assume I shall need it
iBookG4 Mac OS X (10.4.7)

That's normal, isn't it? The Classic icon only appeared in my Sys Pref panel after I accidentally clicked on a OS9 application. (Started out with 10.4.4 on my mini).
I am reasonably sure should you attempt to start a Classic app, the icon in your Sys Pref panel will re-appear as well.

Can't play game with multiple CD's in Classic

I am running OS 10.4 on my iBook G4 (one that cannot run OS9 native).
I successfully installed and played for about an hour a game called "Obsidian" (1996). About an hour into the game, I was asked to "Please insert Disc 2." However, Disc 1 was not automatically ejected, and manually pressing the eject button also did nothing.
I have heard that some OS9 applications do not run in Classic very well, especially those expected to interact with the hardware (like the disc drive). And this problem is posted to the support page here: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22250 . But the only solution listed is starting up in OS9, which I can't do on my iBook.
Is there ANY way to get this to work? The game is old, mostly before copywrite protection, and I have had success getting the data from other old games' CDs onto my computer, but they still look for the information in the disc drive.
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Hello Dr. Ace,
I would start by checking the Extensions Manager to see if you have the proper CD/media extensions enabled. Also, if you could access the CD from the Mac OS X desktop and drag it to the trash to eject it by using Exposé or using control-click/eject or Right Click/eject to get it ejected.
There may be some preferences you need to apply for this game or special set up settings that need to be altered.
good luck!
-Mike

I open project, says some clips in trash, can I these back into movie?

hello imovie guru's I need some help with my quandry, when I do open a project I've been working on for quite some time now, it tells me there are some clips in the trash would I like to view, or not? Of course I say yes, because when I say no, there is no film left, but they're the clips I want/need. so is there a way to get them back into the original movie? I'm afraid I've emptied the trash in the iMovie by accident? thinking I could just grab them and move 'em back in manually. can I recover these clips without having to go back and start over with the whole project again. thanks for your support ahead of time. VHS conversions from my 1st. band 30 odd yrs. ago. geeky looking cats, but fun to watch and be able to convert to dvd finally for the other boys/men now in the band. who'll be astonished I've kept them all these years. HELP!!! But these classic old videos are great for critic-ing my progress thru the yrs. which backs up my theory of "less is more", especially when making music. Nothing but the Blues baby, gots to keep the American musical heritage alive!!

1. you can copy and paste between projects. So, in project A, select what you want to reuse and use the copy command (command-c). Go to project B, place the playhead to where you want your clips to be, and paste (command-v).
2. yes. also look at the auditions feature if you are aiming to go back and forth between different versions (where the clip is enabled/disabled).

IPod Classic will not update certain playlists

I have a 120GB iPod Classic running software 2.0.1, and I cannot get it to update some playlists. Some will have a different album artwork than in iTunes, and the couple that I really care about are in reverse order.
I tried creating new playlists of the same albums with slightly different names, but they still show up in reverse order on the iPod, which doesn't work so well for a story.
Last nigth I got so frustrated that I restored my iPod to try to get it to work, but still the same playlists are showing up in reverse order.
I have tried restarting my iPod, reseting it, restoring it. I have even run diskwarrior on my iPod, and have tried trashing the com.apple.iPod.plist, to no avail.
Does anyone have any ideas, or am I SOL?

Update!
This is what I did to fix both the skipping songs problem and the iPod verifying forever & not able to restore problem (because of iTunes 9):
a) I used Disk Utility to reformat my iPod while in Disk Mode using the instructions here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1363?viewlocale=en_US
and here:
http://www.methodshop.com/gadgets/ipodsupport/erase/index.shtml#backup
b) Do not unplug your iPod after reformatting (mine showed up as a firewire disk) - simply launch iTunes ( I went back to 8.2) and follow the Restore instructions here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1339
iPod is recognized, syncs and doesn't skip songs anymore after that miserable experience with iTunes 9!!!

IPod Classic having strange issues

My 80 Gig iPod Classic is having the following issues:
1.) It appears empty when I search for songs using the wheel.
2.) It shows on my desktop as "Unknown" and is ejectable when I drag it to the trash.
3.) When I put it into disk mode, clicking the mounted disk on my desktop shows pictures and about 150 songs that are unchangeable (i.e., I tried deleting stuff and I was given error code 61.)
4.) I can reset it using Menu+Select, and I can also put it into disk mode.
5.) When plugged in to my computer it displays "connected, eject before disconnecting."
6.) When I eject it (by using the trash bin) it displays "ok to disconnect" - but it immediately resets, the Apple logo comes on, and it asks me to select a language preference.
7.) When it's first plugged in, iTunes will open and the Apple logo at the top of the screen will flash quickly, but the device does not show on the left hand side of the screen.
And the biggest problem...
8.) It is not recognized by iTunes - therefore I can't figure out how to restore it.
I have 8 other kinds of iPods/iPhones, all of them are recognized by iTunes (version 9.1) using my MacBook Pro, using 3 different USB ports. I've restarted iTunes, my computer, everything, and I still cannot get the device to show in iTunes.
Any suggestions to get this going?

See Corrupt iPod classic.
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Ipod Classic-0 KB Free but nothing on it.

I have a Ipod Classic. In the setting menu it says 0KB Free but in all other parts of the menu there is no music, podcasts, movies etc. When I try to go to itunes to reload the ipod will not come up on my itunes. I have tried all the USBs on the computer. Different wires. I have hard reset the Ipod still nothing. I have also updated the software in Itunes. Does anyone have any ideas?

Check out these troubleshooting guides.
Restoring your iPod.
iPod does not appear in iTunes (Mac).
If you have your iPod set to automatically transfer songs, right click on the iPod in iTunes, select options and if you have a check mark in the box marked “enable disk use”, remove it and your iPod should automatically disconnect after it’s finished transferring music. If it's set for manual transfer of songs, then you have to manually disconnect the iPod. You can just right click on it and select eject, or just drag it to the trash.
There is no email for tech support, only telephone support. Unless you have AppleCare, it's only one support issue that's free, and within the first 90 days of purchase.
This explains.
Complimentary support.
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Ipod Classic not showing Photos in full screen

I have a new Ipod Classic 80gig version and have sync'd it with my windows PC. All is good other than the photos. It will display them in mini form (like a contact print) but when you click on the photo you want to look at in full size version the screen goes black and it doesn't show thge photo. Any ideas?
Cheers
Nick

There are several possible causes for the Black Screen issue
1. Permissions in the Library: Back Up and try rebuild the library: hold down the command and option (or alt) keys while launching iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild. Include the option to check and repair permissions.
2. Minor Database corruption: Back Up and try rebuild the library: hold down the command and option (or alt) keys while launching iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild.
3. A Damaged Photo: Select one of the affected photos in the iPhoto Window and right click on it. From the resulting menu select 'Show File (or 'Show Original File' if that's available). Will the file open in Preview? If not then the file is damaged. Time to restore from your back up.
4. A corrupted iPhoto Cache: Trash the com.apple.iPhoto folder from HD/Users/Your Name/Library/ Caches...
5. A corrupted preference file: Trash the com.apple.iPhoto.plist file from the HD/Users/ Your Name / library / preferences folder. (Remember you'll need to reset your User options afterwards. These include minor settings like the window colour and so on. Note: If you've moved your library you'll need to point iPhoto at it again.)
If none of these help:
As a Test:
Hold down the option (or alt) key key and launch iPhoto. From the resulting menu select 'Create Library'
Import a few pics into this new, blank library. Is the Problem repeated there?

How to remove Classic from a system where it is installed?

To trash Classic:
1. Backup your data in case you make a mistake.
2. Make sure no Application in Applications Mac OS 9 folder lists itself in Get Info as an Application (as opposed to Classic Application). Any that are just plain Applications are designed to run natively in both Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X and can be moved to the Applications folder, assuming they didn't install special components that required them to stay in the Applications Mac OS 9 folder to work.
3. Drag both the Applications Mac OS 9 and the System Folder (containing the Control Panels and Apple Menu Items folder) into the trash. Do NOT trash the folder named System which belongs to Mac OS X.
4. Secure Empty Trash from the Finder File menu. If that takes too long, you can use http://www.macosxcocktail.com/ 's software Cocktail. This software is kind of a swiss army knife, and should only be used for specific functions when needed. Ask before using a utility within it, if you are unsure how it might affect your system.
5. Verify all the applications you use work.

This would be contradictory to dataflow.
If you need loop data elsewhere in the code while the loop is running, you have many possible solutions (queues, functional globals, locals variables, etc.). Please explain in a bit more details what you want to do. Do you have processes running in parallel? Where should the loop data "flow" exactly?
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Cross-post: strange file in trash

In my trash I have found a file associated with iTunes/iPod: iPod2,12.2.1_5H11aRestore.ipsw
I didn't put it there, and don't know why it should be there - the trash was empty not long before, and I haven't restored my iPod for years.
My questions: is it safe to trash it? If not, where does it properly belong?
Thanks in advance for any help. This is a cross-post from the iPod Classic forum

Yes, you can delete it. It's a discarded backup that was produced when you last synched your iPod.

Classic enviornment not starting

When I try to start classic I get a message that I haven't come across in the troubleshooting section.
It says "Cassic was unable to update it's files in "System Folder"
This problem is very recent, and classic has worked perfectly up till now. Any ideas why it wouldn't be able to update files? My thanks to everyone who can help.

Hello jsunday,
Your Classic System Folder could be damaged. Test it. Restart your computer then hold down the Option key as it boots. This will show your bootable systems in your hard drive. If you are running 10.3.x and your System 9 system folder is OK, it should show up. If it shows up, select it and click on the right arrow to continue. If it boots in System 9 fine, restart the computer and it should reboot to 10.3.x. Try to launch Classic now.
If System 9 doesn't show or boot completely, then it is possibly corrupted or damaged. Boot from your OS 9 CD, trash the old System 9 System Folder, and do a clean reinstall. Good luck.

OK to trash OS 9 Classic?

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