OKB9 - Cost of sales accounts assigned to profitability segement

Hi All,
I am brand new in an SAP team and I want to understand how OKB9 works and how I could control it.
I want that all Cost of sales accounts ( included cycle count adjustment, difference when posting MIRO ) are posted to profitability segment.
At the moment account for cost difference between inventory price and invoice price is defined in OKB9 with a default cost center.Can I change that to PSG ?
Also if I define the accounts as PSG, how can I prevent people from booking manually to cost center for example on those accoutns where I only want profitability segment bookings ?
Hope this is clear enough to receive good help.
Thanks
Stéphane

If you dont want people to post to a cost center you can control this via the FSG (Field Status Group)
This is linked to the GL account, and defined at posting key level.

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Do check out the following documentation :
http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/600/html/N74_EN_GCC.htm
Cost of Sales Accounting
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005vp/helpdata/en/b3/c3e040852f712ae10000000a155106/content.htm
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change the message to a warning message instead of an error.
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deactivation to prevent any other ledger being deactivated by
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