Old, deleted e-mails in mail app rise from the dead...

I decided to change from hotmail to gmail because I thought it would sync and work well with the Mail app. - Guess not.
Over the past week I've discovered several problems. Firstly, any incoming e-mails are in two different folders. They are under "Inbox" and under "Gmail" -> "All Mail". That annoys me, but I can live with it.
Another problem is when mails that I deleted several days ago seem to mysteriously rise from the dead!? I delete them using the "delete" button and then delete them from the trash folder. But once the mail app syncs again all the deleted emails reappear. This is annoying me so much! I have a feeling it takes us space on my HD (?) and emails which I wanna keep are mixed with emails that are supposed to be deleted.
Are anyone else experiencing the same problem? - Has anyone found a fix?

I've found that you often have to import your mail from Entourage to Mail bit-by-bit as Mail seems to 'choke' part-way through and you end up with empty folders. With some patience it will all import eventually.
Have you look at this webpage?
http://www.office.mvps.org/import_export/index.html
There are some links there to scripts you can use to export your data, hopefully while retaining important Entourage information (#3 under "Bacics for exporting your data").
Good luck!
Greg

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Accidental Delete of Mail.app

Hi,
I accidentally deleted my Mail application. What do I do to recover or reinstall mail.app, without overriding the emails and setting saved in my system/library.
PLEASE HELP.

I'm happy to report that you are safe so as long as you didn't touch or delete any of the preference files for Mail in the library or preferences folders.
What you're going to have to do though is find your original system restore discs (the grey ones that came with your computer at purchase) to reinstall Mail.
Apple Discussions board user, Cornelius, previously recommended this application called "Pacifist" in order to extract specific files from a restore/installation disc. You can use it to find the Mail.app and restore it onto your Mac.
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Upon reinstallation and startup of the Mail application, it should automatically detect the old settings and e-mails and work right away.
Maybe you should back up your Mail preferences files before running the application for the first time, just in case it happens to reset things or override the old settings.

I've deleted my Mail app. How to get it back?

Hi,
I have somehow, by accident (I have no idea how) deleted my Mail app. It is not in my applications folder and I cannot find it in spotlight. Is there somewhere I can download it or will I have to reinstall OS X, which would be a horror?
Any help is very welcome. Thanks!

Hello,
With Tiger, you need only to do a custom install. See:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301229
then after this custom install run the Combo Update to ensure that Mail is then compatible with your OS version. If you are only using 10.4.8, then you will need to search for the Combo that only takes you to that level. The first one you will find will be for 10.4.9, however.
Ernie

I deleted my Mail app sometime back. I reinstalled it again, today, on my Macbook Snow Leopard Mac OS but when I try launching Mail, it says ' You have Mail version 4.0(1075/1085). It can't be used on Mac OS X version 10.6.8(Build 10K549)",

I deleted my Mail app sometime back. I reinstalled it again, today, on my Macbook Snow Leopard Mac OS but when I try launching Mail, it says ' You have Mail version 4.0(1075/1085). It can't be used on Mac OS X version 10.6.8(Build 10K549)",

The Mail version for your machine is 4.6 (1085) You can get it via the Combo updater. Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1
Then follow with software updates to pick up the most recent security and iTunes updates.

TS3276 I have somehow deleted my mail app so I can't send doc's etc from my mac.

I have somehow deleted my mail app. I never used it, always accessed my mail through safari but now if I want to mail a doc, pic, etc, I cannot.

Did you follow the reinstall instructions?
To reinstall Mail, you must have a system installation disk. Here is the procedure for OS X 10.6, or 10.5.
1. Insert the Installation disk into the computer.
2. The disk will appear on the desktop.
3. Double click on the "Optional Installs" folder.
4. Double click on the "Optional Installs.mpkg."
5. Click on (Continue) in Introduction.
6. Click on (Continue) in Software License Agreement.
7. Click on (Agree) to agree to the terms of the software license agreement.
8. Click on the disclosure arrow ▶ next to Applications.
9. Select (✓) Mail.
10. Click (Continue).
11. After Mail has been reinstalled, download and install the Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1, for Snow Leopard or Mac OS X 10.5.8 Combo Updatefor Leopard to bring Mail up to the most recent version.
source: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3679895?start=0&tstart=0

Many of us know Outlook mails can be stored using a PST Mail app to review the old mails when needed on an iPad. I am considering a switch to Mac OS. But I am wondering if the same is possible with the mbox files.

Many of us know Outlook mails (pst files) can be stored using a PST Mail app to review the old mails when needed on an iPad. I am considering a switch to Mac OS. But I am wondering if the same is possible. What would be the file format of the emails on a Mac OS and the app equivalent of the PST Mail app? Thanks for helping me out. Durai

clw51 wrote:
Thanks for your response and yes I understand what you are saying. Maybe you could explain why "email users" hate HTML email with a passion.
These tend to be technical users who have a more purist attitude about email. They prefer that email be text-only, and consider HTML formatting to be superfluous for most messages. And I do think they have a point. If you have 100 plain-text emails and 100 HTML emails, you will notice that the HTML emails take up noticeably more disk space. And if the HTML email senders have loaded down their default emails with background images, signatures with corporate logos and winmail.dat attachments and all manner of embedded ornamentation, and (I never even thought people went this far) animations, then a simple email reply like "Thanks! I'll see you this evening," ends up carrying an tremendous additional amount of file size and network bandwidth overhead just to carry those six words. It not only means more disk space consumed, but it ripples all through the system: More space is required for backing up and archiving your emails, plus more mail server space and network bandwidth are consumed per message. Purists see this as an incredible waste of resources.
The message body of at text email can simply be "Thanks! I'll see you this evening."
The HTML version, at a bare minimum, must be
{html}
{p}"Thanks! I'll see you this evening."{/p}
{/html}
(replaced angle brackets with curly brackets so Apple Forums won't try and format it)
Already that's almost double the amount of characters required to send the message, just to format it in HTML. And that's if no fonts, styles, graphics, or media have been applied. If they are, the number of actual characters sent balloons dramatically.
I'm in the middle. I don't hate HTML email, I'll even turn it on when I think formatting will help my message. But I like to use disk space efficiently, so I've set plain text as my default for sending messages.

Recall old deleted e-mail

how I recall get copy of 4-week old deleted e-mail

I am sorry but there is no way to retrieve it once its deleted.
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TS1702 On my iPad 2 the mail app opens and the page icons are there but no mail. I can access my mail in other ways so I know mail is being received.

On my iPad2 the mail app opens and the page icons are there but no messages are shown. I know mail is being sent as I can access it in other ways plus the envelope icon on my homepage continues to show the number of messages received.
I have rebooted twice now but cannot think of anything else to do
Help please

Go to Settings>Mail the account and turn the account off and then back on
Next delete the account from the iPad and reenter the settings.

Why has my Mail app disappeared from my MacBook Pro?

If i try to open the Mail app from my applications folder I get the following error message, "You can't use this version of Mail with this version of OS X"
As far as i remember the mail app disappeared since I accepted a security update.
Grateful for any help in retrieving my mail and mailboxes......

!! WARNING !!
about the September 2012
"Security Update 2012-004"
If you've got "Mail.app" in a folder OTHER THAN the root "Applications" folder,
MOVE "MAIL.APP" TO THE APPLICATIONS FOLDER
**BEFORE** INSTALLING THE "004" UPDATE!!
Because *IF* you use OSX's integrated Software Update app from the Apple menu to do the "004" updating, and *IF* your Mail.app is NOT in the Applications folder, then buddy, you've got some sitdown fixit time ahead of ya and/or some internet tie-up time downloading the "004" update file itself.
Been through it all, already. In fact, just got done getting my Mail back up & running. And I tried everything short of attempting to unpacking my "Mail.pkg" receipt file using... whatever... even Pacifist couldn't get it out. So that fixit "Plan D" died quick. And I'm not savvy enough to use Terminal commands to do "Plan E," so that SUDO stuff was my brick wall.
So I compressed my entire "Mail" subdirectory that contain all my emails, for safekeeping during the required surgery, or whatever would work, leaving the original Mail directory where it was. In case something bad happened in all my fixit whatevers, the one thing I *didn't* want to cross paths with was a hosed Library -> Mail folder. Then I'd be pssd. But I can wipe out that ZIP now 'cause all's well now. After 6 hrs of downloading thru a mobile broadband hotspot running at only 14KB/sec speed due to my having gone over my T-Mobile hotspot plan's bandwidth amount (throttled-down after reaching the limit, tho not cut off completely. Kinda nice, but it's a huge speed drop).
I tried moving the two Mail.app versions around, compressing them & then trashing the original so they wouldn't be recognized, blabla, even booted my Mac in Safe Mode & reinstalled the "MacOSX 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) Update Combo.dmg" update file, which in the past has fixed many problems. But after restarting, not this one.
Like a dummy who ignored knowing better, I had my Mail.app in a folder other than the Applications folder, with only an alias to that being in the Applications folder. NOT GOOD ENOUGH. The updater don't see that as nuthin special or useful.
So if you've got, like I've got, "old" icons for Mail.app (v4.5) in your Finder toolbar & in your Dock that all point to "Mail.app v4.5" in whatever folder you've got that in, other than in the Applications folder (where Apple apparently REQUIRES that it be located, and ONLY there, at least for OSX updating purposes), then after you download & autorun that "004" updater using Software Update, NONE of your pre-existing Mail icons will work. And MOST aggravatingly, **NOR** will your brand-new "Mail.app v4.6" work that came out of the "004" updating installation. So basically, your Mail.app's... all of 'em.... are hosed. But only if you run the "004" update without your "Mail.app v4.5" being located in your Applications folder and ONLY in your Applications folder. And duplicates of Mail.app, scattered around your HDD?? Always a problem with many Apple apps.... The Apple software engineers apparently like 'em to be in the Applications folder, and in ONLY there, and ONLY the latest version, and ONLY 1 single copy of each on your entire HDD. They just don't seem to stress that enough, it appears. Kind of an oversight for them to not emphasize that, IMO...
My recommendation for this particular September 2012 "004" update:
If you run Software Update, and if you see the "Security Update 2012-004" listed as available for download, UNCHECKMARK IT. DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT USING SOFTWARE UPDATE ! Instead, download the actual update file itself.
Same thing, only a different way of doing it. Most importantly, you'll be skipping the auto-installation that Software Update performs.
AND you'll have that update file on your HDD for future fixits, should a nasty "unfixable" problem come up.
First, #1. Do a filename search for "Mail" (Option-Command-Spacebar). Scroll down to where the "Apps" are located in the list under the "Kind" column heading. First, find your Mail.app that's v4.5. Get that bugger into your Applications folder if it's not already there. Next, Trash all other "Mail.app" apps you see in that same list that you may have elsewhere on your HDD.
#2. Go here: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1586
And download the actual "004" DMG update file: "SecUpd2012-004.dmg"
And of course, it's a biggie.... 270MB... so watching grass grow may be involved here if you've got a slow connection (go to a MacDonalds & do it, like I shoulda done).
3. After downloading, I'd recommend closing down all apps, emptying the Trash, and restarting.
Then, after restarting, run Disk Utility's "Repair Disk Permissions."
Then, doublecheck that the Mail.app version 4.5 is in your Applications folder.
THEN fire up & install "SecUpd2012-004.dmg."
Reboot.
After the reboot, your Mail.app version 4.5 in the Applications folder will have become Mail.app version 4.6 in the Applications folder, and all will be well again.
And you can dump that zipped-up "Username -> Library -> Mail" folder then, too.
Happy Mac'in!
Kevin Kendall
Macbook 7,1
(Apple's very last all-white Macbook model)
2.4GHz - 256GB Crucial SSD - 8GB Crucial RAM
OS 10.6.8 Build 10K549 + Win 7 Ultimate thru VMWare Fusion v5.0.1

Is Mail.app one of the "erratic" behavior apps with a reset system clock?

I am hoping someone can help with a fine detail of mail.app (v2.1.3) behavior.
I had an incident where an iMac sent out 200+ smtp hits a minute and was tossed of the network for presumed zombie spaming.
I think I have actually tracked the problem to an unfortunate conjunction of circumstances that is actually innocent (if still annoying)
Let me set up the story:
1. This is a common use computer, so Mail is not configured (except that it is --I'll get to that in a moment) and
2. Safari will invoke Mail when you click on an "email link"
Mostly everyone just quits mail if they goof and click an email link.
BUT some time ago at least one person invoked Mail and composed a message. This message, naturally, remained in the outbox ever since. That person learned that they can't send email that way, so ever since they just cmd-Q Mail.
BUT Before this person learned, they walked through the mail-config and told mail to try hitting smtp.mac.com:"nonExistantUser".
So that covers the lead-up. Two days ago, mail was invoked via a Safari link, BUT it wasn't quit, it was sent to the background.
Where it undoubtedly tried to send the outbox repeatedly until it was kicked off the network.
Here is what I don't understand:
Under this scenario of a mis-configured .mac address, will mail repeatedly try and fail to smtp at the maximum possible rate?
OR
Is the one other factor I am about to describe responsible?
The one other factor:
The clock battery is dead and there was a power failure at 4am that day.
The system clock reset to 1969.
Of course, nobody reset it.
Is mail.app one of the apps that the finder message warns "may behave erratically"?
(a GROSS simplification) does it have a bit of code like:
1 check time-of-last-send-mail-attempt
check newest-item-in-outbox
if newest-item more recent then last-send-attempt
do send-mail and record time-of-last-send-mail-attempt
and go to 1
else wait X minutes and go to 1
which, if the clock was mis-set to 1969 would always record a last-send-attempt prior to anything in the outbox and trigger a send loop.
Does anyone know if either Mail is tenacious about sending to a bad .mac address, or gets ridiculous under this circumstance for bad-clock-set?
Marc

I am hoping someone can help with a fine detail of mail.app (v2.1.3) behavior.
I had an incident where an iMac sent out 200+ smtp hits a minute and was tossed of the network for presumed zombie spaming.
I think I have actually tracked the problem to an unfortunate conjunction of circumstances that is actually innocent (if still annoying)
Let me set up the story:
1. This is a common use computer, so Mail is not configured (except that it is --I'll get to that in a moment) and
2. Safari will invoke Mail when you click on an "email link"
Mostly everyone just quits mail if they goof and click an email link.
BUT some time ago at least one person invoked Mail and composed a message. This message, naturally, remained in the outbox ever since. That person learned that they can't send email that way, so ever since they just cmd-Q Mail.
BUT Before this person learned, they walked through the mail-config and told mail to try hitting smtp.mac.com:"nonExistantUser".
So that covers the lead-up. Two days ago, mail was invoked via a Safari link, BUT it wasn't quit, it was sent to the background.
Where it undoubtedly tried to send the outbox repeatedly until it was kicked off the network.
Here is what I don't understand:
Under this scenario of a mis-configured .mac address, will mail repeatedly try and fail to smtp at the maximum possible rate?
OR
Is the one other factor I am about to describe responsible?
The one other factor:
The clock battery is dead and there was a power failure at 4am that day.
The system clock reset to 1969.
Of course, nobody reset it.
Is mail.app one of the apps that the finder message warns "may behave erratically"?
(a GROSS simplification) does it have a bit of code like:
1 check time-of-last-send-mail-attempt
check newest-item-in-outbox
if newest-item more recent then last-send-attempt
do send-mail and record time-of-last-send-mail-attempt
and go to 1
else wait X minutes and go to 1
which, if the clock was mis-set to 1969 would always record a last-send-attempt prior to anything in the outbox and trigger a send loop.
Does anyone know if either Mail is tenacious about sending to a bad .mac address, or gets ridiculous under this circumstance for bad-clock-set?
Marc

TS3899 Having trouble accessing my email account thru the mail app, after entering the account information in the settings page, hotmail returns with the error message " The user name or password for Hotmail is incorrect

Having trouble accessing my email account thru the mail app, after entering the account information in the settings page, hotmail returns with the error message " The user name or password for Hotmail is incorrect". Help

Hotmail is having problems:
http://bostinno.streetwise.co/2013/08/15/hotmail-outage-hotmail-is-down-for-user s-still-photos/
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/14/outlook-outage/
http://www.infoworld.com/d/applications/microsofts-skydrive-outlookcom-are-down- some-users-224940
http://mashable.com/2013/08/14/outlook-down/
http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/14/microsoft-acknowledges-outlook-com-messenger-sk ydrive-outages/

When I send a photo directly from iPhoto using the Mail app on my iMac, the wrong photo appears on my iPad2 Mail app. However the correct photo shows if I log into gmail on the iPad2. I assume there is a glitch with my "Mail" app on the iPad2.

When I send a photo directly from iPhoto using the Mail app on my iMac, the wrong photo appears on my iPad2 Mail app. However the correct photo shows if I log into gmail on the iPad2. I assume there is a glitch with my "Mail" app on the iPad2? Any suggestions for getting the correct photo to show on iPad2?

Update: I was able to have the correct photo show in my email as received on my iPad2 by changing a setting on my IMac prior to sending the photo on the email.
On the iMac, I went into iPhoto > Preferences > Email photos using > Mail (in lieu of "iPhoto"). This seems to have corrected the issue. I'm not sure why. Now the correct photo shows up when received on my iPad2.

I can't turn on Mail in Settings. Earlier i tried to e-mail a document from the GoodReader app through my Gmail account. Apparently, my iPad2 didn't like that. Also, now when i click on Mail on the Home screen, the Mail screen shows no mailboxes.

iPad2. I tried to e-mail a document from the GoodReader app. It froze. Now, when i tap the Mail button on the Home screen, it goes to a blank mail page, with no mailboxes, whereas before it went straight to my Gmail account. I went in to the Settings section, tapped on Mail, Contacts, and then on Gmail. The Mail button is grayed to Off, and when i press it to turn it On, all i get is a message that says Turning on Mail, but nothing happens. Suggestions?

Start off by trying to reset the ipad. Press and hold the power and home buttons at the same time until the device powers down and you see the Apple logo.

10.6.7, hardware failure but the hard drive is intact. I can access the hard drive via Linux. Need to get mail from Mail.app and from Entourage 2004.

I need to know a couple of things, but y'all may not have all the answers I need.
First, I need to know how to retrieve the mail files from Mail.app and from Entourage 2004. I don't know if this is a valid asusmption, but in my experience with Windows, I know that Outlook keeps everything in a single monolithic .PST file. Is this the case with either Mail.app or with Entourage?
Second, I need to know how to access said mail files in a Linux mail app. The mail from Mail.app is more important than that from Entourage, so it has to take priority. Will I need some sort of converter program, or is there enough similarity between Mail.app and one of the Linux mail applications that I can simply import it? (BTW, I'm running Ubuntu Linux 11.04 on my Linux netbook. I wish there was some way I could get Snow Leopard on here.)
Any advice on any of this problem will be extremely helpful. Thanks.

PastorLarry wrote:
I'm running Ubuntu Linux 11.04 on my Linux netbook. I wish there was some way I could get Snow Leopard on here.
Direct install MacBuntu (based upon Ubuntu 11.04)
http://www.oslike.se/
I have it running on one of my single core netbooks.
WIth your other problem, just borrow a Mac temporariy, drag a enclosure to a Apple Store and use one of theirs, they don't mind as they have Deep Freeze installed on all their machines so changes don't stick upon rebooting.

HT1688 I am having issues get my email in one of my mail accounts so I tried to "DELETE" the whole account. But my phone will not delete a mail account. And the phone is getting really hot and battery was full 2 hours ago and now at 25%.

I am having issues get my email in one of my mail accounts so I tried to "DELETE" the whole account. But my phone will not delete a mail account. And the phone is getting really hot and battery was full 2 hours ago and now at 25%.

Well, you don't say what happens when you try to delete the account. So I don't know what else to recommend. However, if your phone is not charging, is that the mains charger or the computer USB? Also, if it not showing any change to battery percentage, then something is wrong with the software. The next step in user troubleshooting after the reset is a restore from backup. However, considering the condition of the phone right now, I would be more than willing to say your backup is going to be corrupt. But you can try. If that does not fix the device, then you restore as new, not from a backup. If the phone works, then you can try restoring the backup again, but if it messes up, you are going to have to restore as new again. If the restore as new does not work, then you need to make an appointment at the Genius Bar or Authorized Apple Service Provider to get the hardware checked.

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