Old Express on TC Network - Airtunes on Ethernet?

Hi,
I want to buy an old Airport Express for my Time Capsule based network. I want to use the AE's Airtunes capabilities, but through Ethernet, as it will sit next to my Capsule.
Is this possible? Can I turn off the wireless of the AE and just use the AirTunes service through ethernet?
Thx
Steve

Thanks - Can I still send Airtunes to the AE though from a macbook pro - even if the wireless is off on the AE? The point is, the AE will be b/g wifi and I want an n only wifi network, so want to restrict the AE to just running via ethernet if possible.

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AirPort Express Dropping Connection to AirTunes via Ethernet Connection

I connect to my AirPort Express via ethernet using iTunes and AirTunes. I am using Windows Vista. The device works great for roughly 15 or so minutes, and then seems to loose its connection with iTunes. iTunes continues to play the music, but there is no sound coming out of the audio device connected to the AEx. If I toggle the Computer Speaker/AirPort Express output selection in iTunes it reconnects successfully with my AEx and will work as expected for a period of time, and then will eventually drop the connection (or at least the audio stops) again. I've used my AEx successfully for a couple years now - something over the last few months changed as this behavior is new. I am using the latest firmware and the latest version of iTunes.
Anybody have any ideas? Are there known software/firmware compatibility issues?

See http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1949393&start=0&tstart=0
This might be the same problem you are having. There is no fix as of yet.

New express doesn't extend old express network

My old AirPort Express runs a printer, and AirTunes to our stereo. I just added the new AirPort Express to the network in hopes of extending coverage in the house. Installation went well, and both devices are working. But the signal strength is not improved at all. Should I be using the old Express as the extender, and the new one as the "base"? Thanks for any ideas out there.

When mixing 802.11n & 802.11g AirPort, you will only be able to setup a WDS in order to extend the wireless network. You will not be able to use the newer 802.11n's "extend a network" feature.
Here are the basic steps in setting up a WDS ...
(Note: To facilitate the WDS set up, place the base stations within near proximity of each other during the set up phase, and then relocate them to their desired locations when complete. Also, jot down the AirPort IDs (MAC addresses) for each of the base stations to be used in the WDS. The AirPort ID and is printed on the label on the bottom/side of the base station.)
Main Base Station Setup
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as the main base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (located in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the main base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base
Station menu, or double-click the base station to open the configuration in a separate window.
o Enter the base station password if necessary. If the base station is using the
default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Click Wireless in the toolbar, and then choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and then choose “WDS main” from the WDS Mode pop-up menu.
o Select the “Allow wireless clients” checkbox if you want client computer to connect to this base station.
o Click the Add "+" button and enter the AirPort ID of the base station you want to connect to this base station.
o Click Update to send the new settings to the base stations in the WDS.
Remote Base Station Setup
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as a remote base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the remote base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Enter the base station password, if necessary. If the base station is using the default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Enter the same network password as the main base station, if necessary.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar and click Wireless. Choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and choose the same channel as the main base station from the Channel pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and choose “WDS remote” from the pop-up menu.
o Enter the AirPort ID of the main base station in the WDS Main field.
o Click Update to transfer the settings to the base station.
(ref: Pages 42-46 of "Designing AirPort Networks.)

Can't connect Airport Express wirelessly to network so that AirTunes and internet are available simultaneously

I can't connect Airport Express wirelessly to network so that AirTunes and internet are available simultaneously. My old AE allowed this but can't make the new one work that way.

In your instructions, you say to use the same encryption type as the router has set up. well, I am using the WEP 64 bit encryption and the Airport Utility does not have this...it has 40 bit. Is this a problem, or do I have to be using a the same type of encrytion ?
WEP is available in either 40 or 104-bit, but is usually "advertised" as either 64- or 128-bit respectively. For example, 64-bit WEP uses a 40 bit key (also known as WEP-40), which is concatenated with a 24-bit initialization vector (IV) to form the 64-bit RC4 traffic key. So, WEP 64 on the Linksys & 40-bit is equivalent.
What concerns me more is the loss of bandwidth performance you are experiencing when connecting the AX. When the AX is configured as a wireless client it is acting just like any other wireless devices (computer, laptop, printer, etc.) and not like another router. This should cause little or no bandwidth loss. True the more secure the wireless encryption used WPA2 vs. WEP, the more overhead is required for security, but the differences you are seeing seem excessive.
It is very possible that you may have some form of Wi-Fi interference in the immediate area that is preventing your Linksys from providing a good clean signal.
I suggest you perform a simple site survey, using utilities like the following to determine potential areas of interference, and then, try to either eliminate or significantly reduce them where possible:
For Macs:
o MacStumbler
o iStumbler, or
For PCs:
o NetStumbler

Use old express and extreme inside of "n" network?

I currently have an old extreme and express that connects my house to my parents so they can "share" my internet. The connection is ok but I plan on purchasing a new extreme "n" and express "n" to replace them mainly for range and better speed so I can utilize a time machine air disk. My mom's pc uses "g" only so I still need to maintain a "g" connection but I'm afraid I'll lose the speed and range of "n" if I enable "g". I have the old extreme and express to work with, can I plug the old extreme into my express at my parent's house and run a smaller "g" network inside of my n network? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom

...can I plug the old extreme into my express at my parent's house and run a smaller "g" network inside of my n network?
Since the AirPort Express (AX) only has a single Ethernet port, this is not possible.
However you can connect the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) to the ISP's modem and then connect the AX to one of the LAN ports on the AEBS.

I'd like to alter my Airport Extreme/Airport Express wireless network so that the 3 Expresses connect to the Extreme via Ethernet. I've been told this will create a more stable wifi signal. How do I configure this using Airport Utility? Thanks.

I currently have an Airport Extreme Base Station connected to my DSL router by Ethernet. Because I have a long, sprawling home, I have 3 Airport Expresses configured to "Extend the Wireless Network" I've established. Because of my home environment--thick walls encompassaing wire mesh, sprawling rooms, etc., it is hard to maintain a continuously-strong, stable WiFi signal. I've been told that I can create a much more stable network by connecting the Express units to the AEBS via Ethernet cable. Since my home is already wired for Ethernet, I'm considering making this change. If I proceed to establish the Ethernet connections, how do I then set up Airport Utility to accomodate this switch from a Wireless-based WiFi network to an Ethernet-based WiFi network?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Phyllis

I don't see anyplace in the Utility to designate HOW the Express units are connected, only how they relate on the network to the Extreme,
As I mentioned in the previous post, when you click the Internet icon in AirPort Utility:
Connect Using = Ethernet (This tells each Express to connect to the Extreme using the ethernet connection)
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode) (This setting allows your AirPort Extreme to function as the "main" router on the network, as it must for the setup to work correctly.
You do not need to configure anything differently on the AirPort Extreme (as long as it is working correctly now) to connect the AirPort Express devices.
The only other question I have is the following: I'm currently already using one of the Ethernet ports on the back of the Extreme-- for my husband's iMac. I really don't think he gains much in performance over how the iMac would run through wifi, so I could disconnect the iMac. If you think the iMac would do better to stay on the Ethernet connection, should I use a switch/splitter to add an extra connection?
Since each AirPort Express must connect using ethernet, you will need to use the 3 LAN <-> ports on the AirPort Extreme for the AirPort Express devices.
I would suggest that you try connecting the iMac using wireless to see if that will work. If the wireless connection is not satisfactory, then you can add a 5 port ethernet switch to one of the LAN ports on the Extreme and then plug all the devices connecting using ethernet....the iMac and the 3 AirPort Express devices...into the remaining 4 ports on the switch. That will leave you with 2 open ports on the AirPort Extreme for any future devices that may need to connect.
When you test out the system, here is a trick to find out which device your computer is actually connecting to at any given time as it "roams" around the house.
When you have AirPort Utility open to configure each AirPort Express, jot down the AirPort ID for each Express. You can do the same for the AirPort Extreme.
As you move around with your laptop, hold down the option key on your Mac keyboard while you click on the fan shaped AirPort icon at the top of the screen. Look for the BSSID. That is the AirPort ID of the device that the laptop is connected to at that time. it should also be the ID of the closest AirPort Express (or AirPort Extreme if the laptop is close to the Extreme at the time).
Let us know how things are working when everything is up and running.

Airtunes to old Express using TC as wireless connection

Obviously a Newbie. Can't figure out how to use the Express (b/g) to get music to our stereo.
Should the AE be part of the TC network or a standalone component to move music to the stereo (yes, I do know it needs to be wired to the stereo!)
What should the setting on the TC look like?
Have read the manuals (are the translated from some foreign language?) but what I need is the Idiot's Guide. Any help would be appreciated.

ereiss wrote:
Obviously a Newbie. Can't figure out how to use the Express (b/g) to get music to our stereo.
Should the AE be part of the TC network or a standalone component to move music to the stereo
i have two old express units (b/g) that join the wireless network created by my sim dual band TC. i'm streaming content to them as i'm typing this.
What should the setting on the TC look like?
nothing special, really. just have it create a wireless network. you may want to put a tick in the box next to +allow this network to be extended+ (though you old express cannot extend it).
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Hi guys, trying to transfer my itunes from my old netbook to my macbook pro via ethernet. where can i find the old pc network address?

hi guys, trying to transfer my itunes from my old netbook to my macbook pro via ethernet. where can i find the old pc network address?

I can't see any reason that you would need it... Just let it create it's own connection.
ADD:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/11389300#11389300
https://discussions.apple.com/message/12379324#12379324

Hello, I'm trying to connect my new TiVo XL4 box to my home network via an ethernet cable connection to my Airport Express but the TiVo box is not seeing the network. I have a green light emanating from the Airport Express so it is connected. Plz advise.

Hello, I'm trying to connect my new TiVo XL4 box to my home network via an ethernet cable connection to my Airport Express but the TiVo box is not seeing the network. I have a green light emanating from the Airport Express so it is connected. Please advise.

If you have not already done so, I suggest that you temporarily disconnect the Ethernet cable from the AirPort Express that goes to the Tivo box.
Instead, turn off the wireless on a laptop and connect the laptop to the Ethernet port on the Express. See if you can get an Internet connection on the laptop.
If you still cannot get an Internet connection on the laptop, try another Ethernet cable that you know is working correctly.
Post back on your results.

Old "G" Express to Extend Network WDS only?

I recently added a new Airport Extreme as my main wireless router, and use my old Airport Extreme to extend the network. However, I found I needed to press my old Airport Express back into servers as it was not reaching a back bedroom. The Airport Utility did a great job of putting it all together under one network name.
However, when I added the old Express it would only give me a WDS option to connect to either my new Extreme or my old Extreme. Would a new Express let me extend the network without the WDS option? I understand that WDS cuts the speed down. I think I remember that when extending the network between the new extreme and the old Extreme I had two options one of which I avoided was WDS.
Could I avoid WDS with a new Extreme?

Jazzman wrote:
Would a new Express let me extend the network without the WDS option?
Yes.
Could I avoid WDS with a new Extreme?
What model is your old Extreme?

Will using the old express slow down my network?

I want to setup a network without being connected to the internet, with an Extreme N connected to an external drive, AppleTV, and Airport Express for music.
1. If I use the old Express that is not running at N speed, will this significantly slow down my network?
2. If I setup my network with the old one and later upgrade to the new one, is it a big deal to delete the old one off the network and add the new one?
Thanks.

You can have an N network with a G subnetwork. You connect the WAN connector of the G router to a LAN port of the N router. You set the N router to work only at N, that is without support for G networks. Let the G router handle those.

Airport Express: Extend a network and do Airtunes at the same time?

Hi, I'm trying to organize the people in my apartment building to share an internet connection wirelessly.
The connection is originating from a friend's apartment; he has a Linksys router, probably "g" flavor.
We're going to put one Airport Express in a neighbor's apartment to extend that.
I have an Airport Express connected to my stereo which I use only for Airtunes.
So I'm wondering: can I connect my Airport Express to this network and extend it and ALSO use it for Airtunes?
Also: Can I prevent my neighbors from seeing my Airport Express for Airtunes purposes? IE, I don't want my stereo to show up in the "multiple speakers" drop down of iTunes for other people connecting to the network...
Hope there's a way to work this out...

can I connect my Airport Express to this network and extend it and ALSO use it for Airtunes?
In order to extend the wireless range of the Linksys router, you would have to configure your AX and the Linksys in a Wireless Distribution System (WDS). Unfortunately, very few non-AirPort router are WDS-compatible. The few Linksys models that are reported to be compatible are the WRT54G & WRT54GS.
If you can create a WDS, streaming iTunes should not be a problem.
Also: Can I prevent my neighbors from seeing my Airport Express for Airtunes purposes? IE, I don't want my stereo to show up in the "multiple speakers" drop down of iTunes for other people connecting to the network...
No, but you can establish an iTunes Speaker password so they would not be able to stream to it.

Extending an extreme dual band network using an old Express (802.11g)

Previously I had a 802.11g home network based on two Airport Express (old version) in WDS mode.
I've installed a new Airport extreme station in order to have a dual-band network to use 802.11g/n without loosing performance and hoping to cover my area with the enhanced power.
Unfortunately there are still some corners with insufficient signal.
As I do not want to throw away the old Express and buy a new one I tried to extend only the 802.11g segment with the old airport, checking the Extreme base station flag to allow the network to be expanded and manually configuring the Express WDS page.
I payed attention to the channel (the same in extreme and express station) and configured the airport ID of the extreme base station in the express remote station.
Unfortunately I could not have the WDS running on the 802.11g segment.
Does anyone have experience in such matter? Is that possible?
Thanks a lot

Scatmac wrote:
As I do not want to throw away the old Express and buy a new one I tried to extend only the 802.11g segment with the old airport, checking the Extreme base station flag to allow the network to be expanded and manually configuring the Express WDS page.
I paid attention to the channel (the same in extreme and express station) and configured the airport ID of the extreme base station in the express remote station.
Unfortunately I could not have the WDS running on the 802.11g segment.
You need to configure your new unit to participate in a WDS network. You can't see that option unless you hold down an "option" key when you pull down the "Wireless Mode" list.
Depending on what other equipment you have, you might want to configure your Extreme to create a separate 5 GHz band. That's under the "Wireless Network Options" button on the same panel as the "Wireless Mode" list.

Airtunes over Ethernet?

I have an Extreme wireless network and a new Express with 802.11n. They're connected to each other via Ethernet to create a roaming network, which means the Express is operating in bridge mode. Everything works. I can stream Airtunes beautifully over the wireless network.
I also have an older iMac without an Airport card. It's connected to network's wired LAN and it works fine on the network. Is it possible to use it as a music server over the wired LAN? iTunes Preferences > Devices is set to look for Airtunes connected speaker.
Everything is on the same subnet.
I have read of a setting in my Express to allow Airtunes over Ethernet but the selection isn't there in Airport Utility.
So, is AoE possible?

Apparently AoE is enabled by default. Airtunes works fine over the wired LAN.
Airtunes without the Air. Hmm...

Airtunes Via Ethernet

Hi there,
I have installed an Airport Express as an extension to an existing network. It has been setup just fine and works a treat. My problem is using Airtunes. I am able to connect to it with any wireless laptop in the network however I have hard wired my PC and would really love to send music from it (at this is where all my music, movies etc is stored).
I have been reading posts and found users with similar problems however they were back in the day when there was an "Airport Admin Utility". There was a checkbox "allow airtunes via ethernet"
I have the latest (7.5.x) Airport admin utililty and have been unable to find a similar check box?
Can anyone please provide help??
Thanks in Advance!

… back in the day when there was an "Airport Admin Utility". There was a checkbox "allow airtunes via ethernet"
I have the latest (7.5.x) Airport admin utililty and have been unable to find a similar check box?
AirPort Utility has no similar checkbox. Now there's a single checkbox ("Enable AirTunes") that will enable or disable AirTunes for all clients, wired and wireless.

Old Express on TC Network - Airtunes on Ethernet?

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