Older logic audio file import??

I just found some old Logic Audio songs from 1997/1998. Not sure which version of Logic Audio they were recorded on.
The latest version of Logic cant open them -says need to open in Logic 7 first to convert.
How can i open these songs if I dont have any earlier versions of Logic?
Is there a utility that can convert these songs?
Thanks for any help.
Allen

Welcome to the forum Dr. Von Braun,
Please be advised that in the digital realm...0db is your absolute limit. Any levels that are recorded or pushed above 0db are clipped and unretrievable.
You could push analog audio beyond it's 'clipping' point into distortion, and some do so for the unique effect it causes. But DV audio is different, there is no leeway. Clipped is clipped, thus distorted for good.
Since I don't currently work with Avid, I can't comment on the situation of importing those files into FCP. Others here are very well versed in these aspects, and should chime in soon.
Kevan

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Geoffemm wrote:
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