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Experts,
Can you please let us know the difference between simple maintenance, expert mode , Organisational and staffing method?
Among three which one is mostly used? why?
Regards
S.K

Hi SK,
Simple Maintenance operates using a tree structure. The tree structure allows you to rapidly put together a basic framework for organizational plans, using streamlined procedures
Using Simple Maintenance to create organizational units, jobs, positions, and tasks eliminates all but the most essential details. Simple Maintenance knows which relationships are most commonly required, and generates these relationships automatically when you create an object.
It is recommended to create most of the objects and relationships of your organizational structure using Simple Maintenance. Detail Maintenance is best used to perform maintenance functions on individual objects, especially, it is an effective means to update a particular objectu2019s infotypes
Difference between - Simple maintainence and Expert Mode
Both the interfaces are used to create Org structure. If the company needs to create a huge structure, we will use Simple maintenance, because it is user friendly that is it is easy to create a structure, the system automatically relationship between the objects. Using Infotypes we can create Objects in Expert mode and we have to use different transactions to create various types of objects
Normally we use Simple Maintanience.
Hope this helps...
Regards,
Raghu Kumar R

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OME0     O     IT1000             1
OME0     O     IT1002             2
OME0     O     IT1003             14
OME0     O     IT1509GS             15     SAPLHRFPM_OM_ANNOT_TAB
OME0     O     IT1509GW             15     SAPLHRFPM_OM_ANNOT_TAB
OME0     O     IT9902             7
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OME0     O     WORKTIME       5     SAPLRHOMDETAIL_APPL
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